Interval equipment, what else to add?

_Nettuno_ - Harshlands
_Nettuno_ - Harshlands Posts: 46 Arc User
edited June 2011 in General Discussion
Please give me some advices, as this build show the max is 2,86.

http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=b38cb13161daa3e9

how can i have more unbuffed?

How can i reach 5 attacks/second like this player while using chill of the deep?

http://img686.imageshack.us/ifs/6159/img682/2/61348498.jpg


Thanks you all b:thanks b:bye
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  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=06eb0d1e87c9c6f1 4 aps unsparked.
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  • AlbireoTwo - Lost City
    AlbireoTwo - Lost City Posts: 2,056 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Is demon spark supposed to give 700% magic attack? Because when I activate it, the speed and physical attack doesn't change, but the magic attack does.
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  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    AlbireoTwo - Lost City wrote: »
    Is demon spark supposed to give 700% magic attack? Because when I activate it, the speed and physical attack doesn't change, but the magic attack does.

    Yeah I dunno why it is doing that. Noticed that too when trying to check when that build reaches 5 aps.
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  • Olba - Sanctuary
    Olba - Sanctuary Posts: 1,776 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    _Nettuno_ - Harshlands wrote: »
    Please give me some advices, as this build show the max is 2,86.

    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=b38cb13161daa3e9

    how can i have more unbuffed?

    How can i reach 5 attacks/second like this player while using chill of the deep?

    http://img686.imageshack.us/ifs/6159/img682/2/61348498.jpg


    Thanks you all b:thanks b:bye

    Well, for one, you lack the bonus from TT99 LA and TT99 HA. The most common way to get those would be LA wrists and boots, plus HA (Lionheart) Ornaments. That would give you 4 attacks/second.

    Also, I'm calling bull**** on getting 5 atk/s with Chill of the Deep, even more so if it's leveled up.
    Yeah I dunno why it is doing that. Noticed that too when trying to check when that build reaches 5 aps.

    Since daggers start at 0.8 interval, whereas fists start at 0.7 interval, I don't see how you could possibly get 5 atk/s without using some skill, such as Demon Spark.
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  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Olba - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Since daggers start at 0.8 interval, whereas fists start at 0.7 interval, I don't see how you could possibly get 5 atk/s without using some skill, such as Demon Spark.

    I meant that I noticed the demon spark bug in calc when I clicked it to see when the build reaches 5 aps with demon spark.

    EDIT:
    Olba - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Also, I'm calling bull**** on getting 5 atk/s with Chill of the Deep, even more so if it's leveled up.

    Chill of the Deep + Demon Spark for purify?
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  • Olba - Sanctuary
    Olba - Sanctuary Posts: 1,776 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Chill of the Deep + Demon Spark for purify?

    Seriously? Ok, that's ****.
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  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Olba - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Seriously? Ok, that's ****.

    I dunno, I made that up. I just think it MIGHT be possible since it works that way with Dragon Bane.
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  • Brigid - Harshlands
    Brigid - Harshlands Posts: 1,332 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Chill of the Deep cannot be purified off. It's all one buff that combines the attack speed decrease and the attack level increase.

    I believe it works like this:
    0.6 seconds per attack for Deicides.
    -0.10 from TT99 LA bracers
    -0.05 from TT99 LA set bonus
    -0.05 from Nirvana legs
    -0.05 from TT99 HA set bonus
    -0.10 from Rank 8 top
    -0.05 from Lunar Robe
    -0.05 from Event Tome
    = 0.15 seconds per attack.

    Chill of the Deep is +100% interval between attacks.
    = 0.3 seconds per attack

    Demon Spark is -25% interval between attacks.
    = 0.225 seconds per attack -> rounds to 0.2
    = 5 attacks per second sparked, with Chill of the Deep.

    It becomes even easier with Demon Chill of the Deep, which is only +70% interval between attacks.

    Also, PWCalc doesn't do interval buffs correctly. I suspect it treats attack rate increases as just that, instead of as interval decreases, which leads to the incorrect results.
  • Asheera - Raging Tide
    Asheera - Raging Tide Posts: 830 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Doesn't Nirvana set also give -0.05 int for 2 pieces set? If so get legs + helmet Nirvana, ornaments HA, Boots + Wrists LA.

    Also you ppl forgot about the daggers that can have -0.1 or even -0.15 could be possible (not sure if you can get both -int bonuses though)

    Yes you can get 5 atk/sec without demon spark with daggers if so. But not with Chill of the Deep.
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  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Brigid - Harshlands wrote: »
    Chill of the Deep cannot be purified off. It's all one buff that combines the attack speed decrease and the attack level increase.

    I believe it works like this:
    0.6 seconds per attack for Deicides.
    -0.10 from TT99 LA bracers
    -0.05 from TT99 LA set bonus
    -0.05 from Nirvana legs
    -0.05 from TT99 HA set bonus
    -0.10 from Rank 8 top
    -0.05 from Lunar Robe
    -0.05 from Event Tome
    = 0.15 seconds per attack.

    Chill of the Deep is +100% interval between attacks.
    = 0.3 seconds per attack

    Demon Spark is -25% interval between attacks.
    = 0.225 seconds per attack -> rounds to 0.2
    = 5 attacks per second sparked, with Chill of the Deep.

    It becomes even easier with Demon Chill of the Deep, which is only +70% interval between attacks.

    Also, PWCalc doesn't do interval buffs correctly. I suspect it treats attack rate increases as just that, instead of as interval decreases, which leads to the incorrect results.

    [sarcasm]It's not OP enough QQ![/sarcasm]

    I think 5 aps with Chill of the Deep is a bit too OP, but what if you could get that with Warsoul fists? Those do exist on CN.

    EDIT: don't forget Rank 9 ring that will most probably have -0.10 int.
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  • Olba - Sanctuary
    Olba - Sanctuary Posts: 1,776 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Asheera - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Doesn't Nirvana set also give -0.05 int for 2 pieces set? If so get legs + helmet Nirvana, ornaments HA, Boots + Wrists LA.

    Nope. They give +5 Attack Level.
    Yes you can get 5 atk/sec without demon spark with daggers if so. But not with Chill of the Deep.

    Um, the point kinda was that the OP here wants 5 atk/s with Chill of the Deep, as, from the looks of it, A_Noob has claimed to have.
    0.6 seconds per attack for Deicides.

    Deicide on a Sin? What the ****?
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  • Brigid - Harshlands
    Brigid - Harshlands Posts: 1,332 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Olba - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Deicide on a Sin? What the ****?

    Daggers aren't fast enough to reach 5 aps with any decently leveled Chill of the Deep on, they only get to 3.33 with Demon Chill. Deicides are. And honestly, when you've got Rank 8 and that much interval, the cost of Deicides is like spare change.
  • Olba - Sanctuary
    Olba - Sanctuary Posts: 1,776 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Brigid - Harshlands wrote: »
    Daggers aren't fast enough to reach 5 aps with any decently leveled Chill of the Deep on, they only get to 3.33 with Demon Chill. Deicides are. And honestly, when you've got Rank 8 and that much interval, the cost of Deicides is like spare change.

    Well, at least that spares us from 5 atk/s, zerk, 50 attack level and bloodpaint. That would be ridiculously imbalanced.
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  • Brigid - Harshlands
    Brigid - Harshlands Posts: 1,332 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Olba - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Well, at least that spares us from 5 atk/s, zerk, 50 attack level and bloodpaint. That would be ridiculously imbalanced.

    Um... Nirvana fists seem to at least have the potential to be just as absurdly OP. 2x -0.5 interval for the minor stats, and Frenzied Rage (Has a higher chance to become frenzied. Doubles physical damage, increases attack speed, and increases damage taken.) for the major stat. Depends on if the proc's damage buff stacks with or overwrites Frenzy and Demon Spark.

    Also, you forgot "from stealth" in your litany.
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Brigid - Harshlands wrote: »
    Um... Nirvana fists seem to at least have the potential to be just as absurdly OP. 2x -0.5 interval for the minor stats

    lol... good luck with that.
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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary wrote: »
    [sarcasm]It's not OP enough QQ![/sarcasm]

    I think 5 aps with Chill of the Deep is a bit too OP, but what if you could get that with Warsoul fists? Those do exist on CN.

    EDIT: don't forget Rank 9 ring that will most probably have -0.10 int.
    OP on what the skill or the gear itself >.>
    I was hoping for a decent combo but the gears are just too expensive...
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  • _Nettuno_ - Harshlands
    _Nettuno_ - Harshlands Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    *sorry was away for a while and wasn't able to answer*

    Well,i found these items you all talk about on pwedatabase and checked at TT forges in game to be sure and ashura's boots, lionheart necklace and lionheart belt are whitout the interval bonus:


    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/15016

    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/14988

    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/15004

    How do u add it?


    About the 5 attacks/second whit chill of the deep, any demon assassin can confirm it? I still don't have lvl 10 chill so i don't know if the attack rate is put on 0%,no matter what ur interval bonus, or you lose a standard % (same as the base attack rate) b:surrender

    Can this done whit ralentless courage (maybe whit 100 str points,to reach 25% more attack speed) as well or you must use the demon spark? (if i can use the genie skill i really don't see the point on going demon)

    Thank you b:thanksb:bye
  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    _Nettuno_ - Harshlands wrote: »
    *sorry was away for a while and wasn't able to answer*

    Well,i found these items you all talk about on pwedatabase and checked at TT forges in game to be sure and ashura's boots, lionheart necklace and lionheart belt are whitout the interval bonus:


    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/15016

    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/14988

    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/15004

    How do u add it?


    About the 5 attacks/second whit chill of the deep, any demon assassin can confirm it? I still don't have lvl 10 chill so i don't know if the attack rate is put on 0%,no matter what ur interval bonus, or you lose a standard % (same as the base attack rate) b:surrender

    Can this done whit ralentless courage (maybe whit 100 str points,to reach 25% more attack speed) as well or you must use the demon spark? (if i can use the genie skill i really don't see the point on going demon)

    Thank you b:thanksb:bye

    It's not on the pieces itself, but when you got 2 pieces of the TT99 LA or HA set, it will give you -0.05 int.
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  • Frosya - Dreamweaver
    Frosya - Dreamweaver Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Brigid - Harshlands wrote: »
    -0.05 from TT99 LA set bonus
    -0.05 from TT99 HA set bonus

    I heared that these two bonuses don't work together anymore - you get either, even if you have 2 pieces from each set.
    Please tell me I'm wrong.
  • Ashivas - Dreamweaver
    Ashivas - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,293 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Frosya - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I heared that these two bonuses don't work together anymore - you get either, even if you have 2 pieces from each set.
    Please tell me I'm wrong.

    You're wrong.
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  • Ruvil - Sanctuary
    Ruvil - Sanctuary Posts: 382 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    You can be 5.0 w/ Chill of the Depths on, just use lvl 1 CoD b:victory

    edit: and fists b:avoid
  • Frosya - Dreamweaver
    Frosya - Dreamweaver Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Ashivas - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    You're wrong.

    This is great news! I so love you for it.
  • Decus - Dreamweaver
    Decus - Dreamweaver Posts: 5,033 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Frosya - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I heared that these two bonuses don't work together anymore - you get either, even if you have 2 pieces from each set.
    Please tell me I'm wrong.

    Way to necro a thread from over a year ago b:victory


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  • Ashivas - Dreamweaver
    Ashivas - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,293 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Frosya - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    This is great news! I so love you for it.

    I love you too sexy thang.
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  • Frosya - Dreamweaver
    Frosya - Dreamweaver Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Decus - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Way to necro a thread from over a year ago b:victory

    If you don't mind, I would rather post a question in a relevant thread, which is only 2 pages long, then create a new one. Regardless of the date the original was created.
  • Animal_Pein - Dreamweaver
    Animal_Pein - Dreamweaver Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    http://pwcalc.com/3601cc31293d753d

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