If you could have a Sin or Wiz...

Assailer - Harshlands

in your faction, same basic gear/skill/level, which would you want and why?

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Taarloor - Harshlands

wizard -

-Better for TW (cata killing, aoe dmg)
-Better for GV
-Rarer to find
-Can tank magic attack bosses before sins could tank equivilant melee bosses
-can act as secondary healer when required

idk, im biased b:laugh

Assailer - Harshlands

very good points..i narrowed down between the 2, jsut wanting opinions on which is more needed/wanted...better? i dunno

Tiphreth - Harshlands

Wizard;
Pro's: High single hit damage, Good kitability, Versatile in most demanding situations, being good is worth a fair bit of prestige.
Con's: Oneshot to everything until you get amazing gear, Long cast times, cookiecutter endgame gear, Not following the SageMage ideal of Pandora (91 Light armor mage, IJS, but he chose sage because he was light armor, guys) from LC makes you a noob.

Assassin;
Pros: Can kill anything by rolling their face on the keyboard, Only real weakness is made one per batch and takes forever to farm each, Cheapest and easiest to farm gear, Looks good in virtually anything, Being 'Good' at this class is optional.
Cons: Will be hated based on the class, will be left out in PvE based on the class (Since a fist bm does marginally better damage), all victories in PvP will be blamed on the class, Any and all skill will be over looked based on your class.

I played a barb to 100, mage to 93, archer to 62, veno to 93, bm to 77, eps can go **** themselves and psychics are ****. I like assassins because it just fits my play style better than any of these. No one can really say I lack skill, but since I'm an assassin they will. Just pick based on what you prefer to do and you won't go wrong.

Taboo - Harshlands

Talk to the dip **** that decided to play assassins like a fist BM with stealth....they ruined the class for everyone.

Beeflump - Harshlands

Mage = more respected in pvp, still can be very OP if build correctly and when you have good gear

Sin = not respected in pvp, no credits awarded when killing people, broken class, dont need good gear to 'own' people, no skills needed etc etc.

So yeah i vote mage obviously

Dustins_ALT - Harshlands

Tiphreth - Harshlands wrote: »

Assassin;
Pros: Can kill anything by rolling their face on the keyboard,

So your saying a sin my lvl "85 barb" can kill me lol really? That's news to me because I haven't died from a sin yet. I guess my 15k of Hp is to much for them sorry.

Assburger - Harshlands

Look, i'm gonna hafta lean towards gaining respect as a pvper and not just (as Tip said) a person that can pvp by just banging his face on the keyboard. Mage definetly. But the cast time pissees me off like crazyb:cry

Hhlolz - Harshlands

Dustins_ALT - Harshlands wrote: »

So your saying a sin my lvl "85 barb" can kill me lol really? That's news to me because I haven't died from a sin yet. I guess my 15k of Hp is to much for them sorry.

lmao 15k hp b:laugh
im pretty sure sins like deityofrain and shojos would kill u within 3-4 seconds

Asparagus - Harshlands

Wizards are fun to play, sins are just /faceroll and you've closed the deal. Your pick.

Dustins_ALT - Harshlands

Hhlolz - Harshlands wrote: »

lmao 15k hp b:laugh
im pretty sure sins like deityofrain and shojos would kill u within 3-4 seconds

I'm pretty sure they can't 16k of phy def fully buff.b:bye I can probable 1 shot u since u fail, but if I did I would hear all your damn QQing.

Ambition - Raging Tide

Lol, did someone say going sage for wizards = noob? b:chuckle

HERPADERP LET'S GO DEMON WIZ GUISE.

Black Ice Dragon Strike:
Demon version gives a 20% chance to cast without using a Spark
Sage version gives a 50% chance to increase magic critical hit rate by 30% for 10 seconds.

Nuff said.

Tryagain - Harshlands

imo Sage is better for TW, Demon is better for everything else.

But back on topic

Wizards are fun to play, assassins are boring as **** to play.

Xprestigex - Harshlands

Ambition - Raging Tide wrote: »

Lol, did someone say going sage for wizards = noob? b:chuckle

HERPADERP LET'S GO DEMON WIZ GUISE.

Black Ice Dragon Strike:
Demon version gives a 20% chance to cast without using a Spark
Sage version gives a 50% chance to increase magic critical hit rate by 30% for 10 seconds.

Nuff said.

its 20% chance to cast without useing mana



edit: and if u want people to think your good, you can't play sins, noone will say you have skill when triple spark in stealth is posable

Hhlolz - Harshlands

sins fail
wizards are fun and dont need sparks to drop peopleb:victory

Bakura - Harshlands

Let's be honest, there's no respected class in this game.

Cleric - lol you haz heals, usuk. Sleep+debuff+ultimate=win or lose apparently
Assassin - lol stealth 3xspark
Mage/Psychic - lol kite unub
BM - lol stuns
Archer - lol oneshot
Barb - LOL U HAS TOO MUCH HP .
Veno - LOL NIX LOLOLCASHSHOPPER CANT WIN W/O BROKEN **** BLEED FGT.

Now, point proven. You won't be liked, no matter what class you play. In the end, assassin is just the least liked class along the veno, amongst the other just as loved classes; You can be liked tho, if you're not a fricken prick. It's all your choice ♥

So that just leaves the choice for, which one would you like to play. Would you like to hide in stealth and come out to kill a target, completely regardless of level or armor, and go back into stealth, or have a little more fun in the progress? ;p Well, that's your choice to make as well.

Tiphreth - Harshlands

Go look at blade tempest and Mountain seize. While you're there check out Force of Will, Pheonix, stone rain, sandstorm and well spring quaff. But yea, rolling sage mage for one skill is pro.

Ligeia - Harshlands

Ambition - Raging Tide wrote: »

Black Ice Dragon Strike is the only skill Wizards use.

I see what you mean.

Selfish - Harshlands

Tiphreth - Harshlands wrote: »

Go look at blade tempest and Mountain seize. While you're there check out Force of Will, Pheonix, stone rain, sandstorm and well spring quaff. But yea, rolling sage mage for one skill is pro.

since you went there. demon BT sucks, because you usually kill whatever-squishy-class there is with it. and MS... why even use it? you can kill the whole group ppl with sage BIDS, theres no need for a stun. then, yes, fow is cooler, i agree. even tho sage is epic when like 4 melees are trying to own you. phoenix.. well, mages kill single targets or oneshot them with BIDS, demon phoenix may be cool for groups of lows stone rain and sandstorm are better. wellspring is useless in both ways since it costs 1 spark. the reason why sage mage is good, is because you rely on chi so ****** much (except you fight lows) its not even funny.

Bakura - Harshlands

Selfish - Harshlands wrote: »

since you went there. demon BT sucks, because you usually kill whatever-squishy-class there is with it. and MS... why even use it? you can kill the whole group ppl with sage BIDS, theres no need for a stun. then, yes, fow is cooler, i agree. even tho sage is epic when like 4 melees are trying to own you. phoenix.. well, mages kill single targets or oneshot them with BIDS, demon phoenix may be cool for groups of lows stone rain and sandstorm are better. wellspring is useless in both ways since it costs 1 spark. the reason why sage mage is good, is because you rely on chi so ****** much (except you fight lows) its not even funny.

Which is exactly why we have pointed out that sage mage is that for people that merely aim to TW. I sincerely liked to have my fun in world pvp before i quit playing this character ;p. Ever heard of chi pots? I used those and i managed fine as a demon. You keep over and over talking about sage BIDS. The reason why anyone would point out people would go sage for that skill only, is because it is true. Yes, it oneshots whole fricken bunch of people in TW. Yes, it's very much why people play mages in TW. But there's pvp other than TW, and it's actually more fun.

Dark_Fate - Harshlands

Dustins_ALT - Harshlands wrote: »

So your saying a sin my lvl "85 barb" can kill me lol really? That's news to me because I haven't died from a sin yet. I guess my 15k of Hp is to much for them sorry.

we never heard of your 85barb with 15hp though lmao.. keep tollllllllllllllling.. anyone knows his barb with 15k hp?

Hhlolz - Harshlands wrote: »

lmao 15k hp b:laugh
im pretty sure sins like deityofrain and shojos would kill u within 3-4 seconds

for one i have to admit u are right.. i saw shojoS nearly killing Endless but well perdition ftw

Dark_Fate - Harshlands

sorry for double post but sin is the way to go.. as i posted before with the blance in pvp video, why bother doing a wiz? its hard to lvl ssquishy before 90 and u need lvl11 stone barrier. + good gears so if u dont cs u cant. hh mts does sell anymore since everyone's main can farm them a 8x sin can kill a 9x wiz/archer/cleric even 10x if high enough to be in stealth, spark attack isnt difficult.
when i hear sins talking **** they own u with triple spark attack i cant stop laughing. "i own u haha" let me spark and hit u too this would be so pro -__-
like DragonSlayer with hi r6 mage getting killed with a cleric healing him he logged on his sin, triple spark and attacked then he said: "omg such a noob"

Be a man, do the right thing
be a sinb:chuckle

/Groovy/ - Harshlands

Dark_Fate - Harshlands wrote: »

for one i have to admit u are right.. i saw shojoS nearly killing Endless but well perdition ftw

And I saw him losing duel to lvl 91 barb...

Twice.

Was fun to watch:
sin: *demon spark*
barb: *turtle*
sin: "damn turtle QQ"
barb: Beastial Rage -> full chi -> triple spark -> Beastial Onslaught -> random skills and some misses-> 3-shot sin

LadyTsukiyo - Harshlands

/Groovy/ - Harshlands wrote: »

And I saw him losing duel to lvl 91 barb...

Twice.

Was fun to watch:
sin: *demon spark*
barb: *turtle*
sin: "damn turtle QQ"
barb: Beastial Rage -> full chi -> triple spark -> Beastial Onslaught -> random skills and some misses-> 3-shot sin

I did too. But duels really don't count for anything really..it's interesting seeing ShojoS and Endless do 1 on 1. But Endless is built like a freaking tank x.x

loupu

Dark_Fate - Harshlands wrote: »

Be a man, do the right thing
be a sinb:chuckle

+1

and about the 85 barb with 15k hp..lawl dude..15k hp doesnt mean something,you should know that a sin can get really really crazy crits b:laugh

Taboo - Harshlands

Sins would not kill **** if you saw them, and they are squishy as all hell, so 1v1ing them is not all that hard. The only issue arises when they stealth triple spark and tick your charm before you even see them come out of stealth or anything shows up in your damage log, because the game is glitched. Also...i think assassin was meant to be a good fun class, i rolled one and enjoyed playing with a full skill bar, not merely spark and auto attack. But i had to stop playing it when i saw where people were going with the class, cause it lost all integrity of every sin on the server regardless of how they play it.

Tryagain - Harshlands

/Groovy/ - Harshlands wrote: »

And I saw him losing duel to lvl 91 barb...

Twice.

Was fun to watch:
sin: *demon spark*
barb: *turtle*
sin: "damn turtle QQ"
barb: Beastial Rage -> full chi -> triple spark -> Beastial Onslaught -> random skills and some misses-> 3-shot sin

And this just proves how ****ty all the assassins on this server are.

Assassins have these things called skills...it's ok to try to use them.

While the barb is triple sparking you can use shadow escape and just wait for sparks to end.

Or you can use deaden nerves. Or you can use the speed boosts and just kite until it ends. Or you can stunlock the barb. There are like 10 options as a sin, but nobody knows how to play their class because they can kill people before they realize they're being attacked.

I don't understand how sins are squishy. They have higher evasion than every other class, they have a skill to prevent stuns, they have a skill to prevent debuffs, they have a skill to give them an extra life.

If people think they're broken/OP now, imagine if anyone actually knew how to play this game correctly.

Dustins_ALT - Harshlands

Dark_Fate - Harshlands wrote: »

we never heard of your 85barb with 15hp though lmao.. keep tollllllllllllllling.. anyone knows his barb with 15k hp?

your a moron I don't play on this server.

FR less u stupid frenchb:bye

LadyTsukiyo - Harshlands

Dustins_ALT - Harshlands wrote: »

your a moron I don't play on this server.

FR less u stupid frenchb:bye

Then why bring up your barb in the first place?

Dustins_ALT - Harshlands

LadyTsukiyo - Harshlands wrote: »

Then why bring up your barb in the first place?

Go read the first page and u will see why.