Multi Wep Vit build Question

ererrerererttrtrtrt

i want to start a bm, i was thinking of using a 5 str 4 dex 1 vit build early on to use fists and to have the dex to hit things as well as some vit to survive, but i also want to use axes, specially after lvl 30, my question is, is there a way to do it with my build or would i have to use the 6 str 4 dex all wep path? thx.

ererrerererttrtrtrt

also, if using the 6 str 4 dex build, are you able to aoe axe grind or does the low hp mean u cant? thx

Yulk - Heavens Tear

I am glad you asked that question, going 6 STR, 4 DEX is really risky build IMO. You can have multi weapons, but the problem will be that your going to level really slow or get weakened. If your patient, then all skills would help you out better, if you aren't that patient, you will lack skill upgrades.

I use 3 weapons and being very patient, I can use 4 with extra STR additional with 5 STR, 4 DEX and 1 VIT every 2 LVLs in my build, but remember to get STR and VIT additional in your equipment.

So latest axes/hammers requires one more STR every two levels, so you have to do the maths. Let's do the math, lets say your level 21, and your base build is 55 STR, 45 DEX and 15 VIT, you need basically 10 more STR to equip (9 exact), remember to look at your equipment. You can get like 1-2 each STR additional from equipment that isn't a weapon.

http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=51e13c791c168e56 <-- see through this link

So for now, you can use single target weapons like I do which is swords though, I recommend you use swords, or fist / claws or both to start out till 39+ where you can start using poles and axes.

Telarith - Sanctuary

ererrerererttrtrtrt wrote: »

also, if using the 6 str 4 dex build, are you able to aoe axe grind or does the low hp mean u cant? thx

I did 0 vit build from lvl 1, began AoE leveling at lvl 70 with Calamities (minor AoE earlier, but not very large groups due to bad placement). Was killing 8 at a time at 70, and kept adding until doing 12+ at lvl 72 with no problem whatsoever. Depending on style, you can Roar of the Pride for breather, double spark for 2 secs of immunity to damage + damage boost, then Roar again once it recharges. That helps give time to pot or allow health regen to kick in (apoth helps here). Kiting in between can help, and can swap to Spear for more AoE damage plus knockback to keep it on the cheap side.

Joshcja - Sanctuary

for a 0 vit build aoeing is actualy sightly faster due to higher acc=abe t wear crit rings or higher damage rings a naturaly higher crit rate and the ability to use garnets in axe's (some still prefer ambers)

so you it harder and miss less wich is goodcause as a bm tanking the mobs isnt what your after...your there to kill em >:3

my pesonal aoe paters is cloud sprint>gather the entire NSI spawn of 80's>roar>phys marrow>highland>drake sweep>fissure>move to side>fan of flames>meteor rush>sutra>roar>marrow>highland>drake and finish off +life or def mobswith fists on auto

if me calams ever zerk in that chain just shorten is one skill

happy huntingb:bye

MALIGNO - Harshlands

if ur multipathing weapons go sage BM. why u might ask? popular to common belief, sage BM will give u more damage..

- 15% base damage for all weapons u use as sage now multiply that with the 500% sage spark once u get it. 500% x 15% sage spark for all weapons.

also, if ur pathing to fist go 2 str, 2 dex and 1 vits . don't leave out vits cuz this gives u mdef and pdef as well as the hp ull get for more survivabilty whether PVE or PVP. As Fist BM whether sage or demon, interval gears will make or break u just let u know.

Telarith - Sanctuary

MALIGNO - Harshlands wrote: »

if ur multipathing weapons go sage BM. why u might ask? popular to common belief, sage BM will give u more damage..

- 15% base damage for all weapons u use as sage now multiply that with the 500% sage spark once u get it. 500% x 15% sage spark for all weapons.

also, if ur pathing to fist go 2 str, 2 dex and 1 vits . don't leave out vits cuz this gives u mdef and pdef as well as the hp ull get for more survivabilty whether PVE or PVP. As Fist BM whether sage or demon, interval gears will make or break u just let u know.

b:bye

Ignore everything in this post, it is so far beyond wrong it is like they did abso-jackly nothing to research this info. Though at least they know interval gear for fists....

MALIGNO - Harshlands

MALIGNO - Harshlands wrote: »

if ur multipathing weapons go sage BM. why u might ask? popular to common belief, sage BM will give u more damage..

- 15% base damage for all weapons u use as sage now multiply that with the 500% sage spark once u get it. 500% x 15% sage spark for all weapons.

also, if ur pathing to fist go 2 str, 2 dex and 1 vits . don't leave out vits cuz this gives u mdef and pdef as well as the hp ull get for more survivabilty whether PVE or PVP. As Fist BM whether sage or demon, interval gears will make or break u just let u know.

b:angry WOW! can't believe my nut nut of a liltle brother posted this. guys scratch this post. sage spark only gives 15% more base damage to all weapons. Time to change my password again lol..

but hmmm he does have a good point tho..

sage spark does give 500% base damage but is is plus 15% or X 15%... hmmmmm have to inquire about this.

Telarith - Sanctuary

MALIGNO - Harshlands wrote: »

but hmmm he does have a good point tho..

No he doesn't. Because he is wrong. As wrong as wrong can be. If there was a contest for wrong, he would win the wrong title, become mayor of wrongville, and be a shoe in for Mr. Universe's Wrongest Person.

NOTE: Once the first two sentences got written, it kinda took off from there. At least it entertained me for a bit though

Joshcja - Sanctuary

MALIGNO - Harshlands wrote: »

b:angry WOW! can't believe my nut nut of a liltle brother posted this. guys scratch this post. sage spark only gives 15% more base damage to all weapons. Time to change my password again lol..

but hmmm he does have a good point tho..

sage spark does give 500% base damage but is is plus 15% or X 15%... hmmmmm have to inquire about this.

so it gives 1-3%% more total damage with less crit than my hell masteries depending on weapon refine and str in build (do want)

there is no point here go buy the mold and mirages already ya know ya wanna

Yulk - Heavens Tear

Telarith - Sanctuary wrote: »

I did 0 vit build from lvl 1, began AoE leveling at lvl 70 with Calamities (minor AoE earlier, but not very large groups due to bad placement). Was killing 8 at a time at 70, and kept adding until doing 12+ at lvl 72 with no problem whatsoever. Depending on style, you can Roar of the Pride for breather, double spark for 2 secs of immunity to damage + damage boost, then Roar again once it recharges. That helps give time to pot or allow health regen to kick in (apoth helps here). Kiting in between can help, and can swap to Spear for more AoE damage plus knockback to keep it on the cheap side.

1... how in the world you guys have 0 VIT? I must of missed something... b:surrender
2... He was not talking about what weapon to use and when to refine it, he wanted to know how he can multipath with VIT. You guys NEVER answered that question. Sheesh, even a LVL37 BM answered his question more properly.
3... No sage / demon discussion on this thread please, you guys are going off topic
4... I started to AOE which is kinda risky. I should go back to AOE as BM at 39 instead of using 3 AOE skills b:chuckle . Like I said, AOE can be done at 39+. Most preferably 44 though.

Telarith - Sanctuary

Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »

1... how in the world you guys have 0 VIT? I must of missed something... b:surrender
2... He was not talking about what weapon to use and when to refine it, he wanted to know how he can multipath with VIT. You guys NEVER answered that question. Sheesh, even a LVL37 BM answered his question more properly.
3... No sage / demon discussion on this thread please, you guys are going off topic
4... I started to AOE which is kinda risky. I should go back to AOE as BM at 39 instead of using 3 AOE skills b:chuckle . Like I said, AOE can be done at 39+. Most preferably 44 though.

1. Yes
2. He made a 2nd post, try reading that.
3. Maligno talked about sage/demon, I just pointed out he was wrong to keep the bad from spreading.
4. Mentioned doing AoE earlier than 70 in the post you quoted, it however isn't really the same due to lack of high concentrations of physical only mobs close together. Grabbing a few and AoEing isn't really quite the same as 10+
5. String would be dangerous to you.

Heaven_Blade - Raging Tide

Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »

1... how in the world you guys have 0 VIT? I must of missed something... b:surrender
2... He was not talking about what weapon to use and when to refine it, he wanted to know how he can multipath with VIT. You guys NEVER answered that question. Sheesh, even a LVL37 BM answered his question more properly.
3... No sage / demon discussion on this thread please, you guys are going off topic
4... I started to AOE which is kinda risky. I should go back to AOE as BM at 39 instead of using 3 AOE skills b:chuckle . Like I said, AOE can be done at 39+. Most preferably 44 though.

I use 6 strength 2 dex and 2 vit becuase its easy to multitask and yes you will be able to but some levels you wontb:cute

Kniraven - Lost City

Food for thought. Relentless courage genie skill does not stack with hell spark and it gives the exact same speed boost that hell spark does at level 10 on a str genie.

(The following scenario assumes both BM's are equally geared)
So, If 2 BMs Sage and Hell triple spark on each other with fists, both use will first so there are no stuns and neither kite, then the Sage BM uses Relentless Courage...

They will both have the same attack rate, the Sage BM will have 15% higher Damage, The Hell BM will have 3% more crit (whoopee?), and the Sage BM will take 25% less DMG than normal.

It's pretty sweet :O

Watch out though because on the opposite end they can use tangling mire on their genie and you can not.

My Main point was just that Relentless Courage = same boost as Hell Spark and they can't stack so Hell can't 1 up that by using the same thing.

Telarith - Sanctuary

Kniraven - Lost City wrote: »

They will both have the same attack rate, the Sage BM will have 15% higher Damage, The Hell BM will have 3% more crit (whoopee?), and the Sage BM will take 25% less DMG than normal.

Not sure if this is just an accidentally bad wording, but no the sage BM won't be doing 15% more damage. And with celestial spark, they would be lucky to be doing 2% more damage. Also, where is the 3% more crit coming from?