Lvl 79 skills?

MarshelTriga - Heavens Tear
MarshelTriga - Heavens Tear Posts: 5 Arc User
edited May 2010 in Wizard
Ok so i know there are 3 good ones for wizard, but since i'm not rich and can only afford 1 or 2 by 79 I want to know which ones to get....

Also. If someone has time, i wanna know if i should get TT80 chest+sleeves, if i can just save and get some legendary lvl 77 sleeves+ chest.
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  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    It kinda depends on if you are more interested in PvP or PvE etc... but most people go for the 79 skills in this order: undine -> sleep -> ele shell.

    Do NOT get green TT 80 chest/gloves.. they cost alot and totally suck. The gold TT80 is actually decent, but being that it is auto bound, I'd strongly recommend you skip it. Sleeves of the sea captain are perfect for your 80's, and just some 3* chest with decent stats would be just fine until you are 9x.
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  • SurferGirl - Dreamweaver
    SurferGirl - Dreamweaver Posts: 415 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    most people go for the 79 skills in this order: undine -> sleep -> ele shell.


    thats pretty much there is to it
  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    ^this

    I still don't have my elem shell
    ^^
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  • Kristoph - Lost City
    Kristoph - Lost City Posts: 2,016 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    ^this

    I still don't have my elem shell
    ^^
    Get it, it's great. Chi building + something I wouldn't want to miss in pvp ever.
    Wondering how much longer these **** packs are going to be around.
  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    hmmm...now you almost convinced me :)

    just checked on ecatomb...200 MP only? thought is something like 1000.
    well, I'm gonna go ahead and learn it.
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  • Mr_Mokona - Lost City
    Mr_Mokona - Lost City Posts: 95 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Im basically saying what everyone else has said for order: Undine-Sophoric-Elemental

    If you can only afford one id say undine strike, got it as soon as i could and have loved using it ever since.
    Ive only recently just got Sophoric Whisper, and its nice for duels/pvp, but very situational in pve.
    As for Elemental shell, i wont be getting for a while, doesn't seem worth it to me (for the time being) although as said it does have nice chi building uses apparently.


    As for tt80 green, yeah not that great, but the sleaves of sea captain are VERY nice even into late 8x, Pretty cheap these days as well.
  • HexOmega - Dreamweaver
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,342 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    elemental shell is worth it :3

    its instant cast gets your mdef (-wood) to 50k+, prevents charm ticks (or magic kills) a lot in pve and pvp if timed right, helps at grinding on mag mobs etc :PP

    if youre not in for pvp at all id say get this one first, especially demons



    fun with full chi, (antistunpot?>) 3spark>shell>DragonsBreath booho(>Expel )
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  • Xarathos - Harshlands
    Xarathos - Harshlands Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Im basically saying what everyone else has said for order: Undine-Sophoric-Elemental

    If you can only afford one id say undine strike, got it as soon as i could and have loved using it ever since.
    Ive only recently just got Sophoric Whisper, and its nice for duels/pvp, but very situational in pve.
    As for Elemental shell, i wont be getting for a while, doesn't seem worth it to me (for the time being) although as said it does have nice chi building uses apparently.


    As for tt80 green, yeah not that great, but the sleaves of sea captain are VERY nice even into late 8x, Pretty cheap these days as well.

    you know as wiz you must be fast in pvp..

    imagine you got 399 chi.. then dropping bids which burns 2 sparks.. got 199 chi left.. what to do now.. your enemie is still alive..

    if you wouldnt have elemental shell u would use frostblade or undine to get your chi to 2 sparks again for dropping another ulti
    BUT you can cast shell immediately coz its instant and you got it.. ( i guess lol havent got it yet) and your enemie will be kissing the floor ;P


    note: dont take this as an example of how pvp works lol.. coz pvp is very situational
  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    or better undine them for the second hit if u can pull it off.

    I mean...better debuff target than buff yourself for defense...

    You know Undine gives you chi, right?
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  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    or better undine them for the second hit if u can pull it off.

    I mean...better debuff target than buff yourself for defense...

    You know Undine gives you chi, right?

    no it doesn't >.>
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  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    u sure? I swear I created a combo with sutra-undine-MS and it works. I mean, MS has 50% to take 1 spark, but you need 2 sparks to cast it.

    I was kinda' amazed it did, but I tested it in a few duels and it worked. I have to check my combo again, but I don't remember to have a anything between sutra and MS beside Undine.
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  • Mr_Mokona - Lost City
    Mr_Mokona - Lost City Posts: 95 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Yeah im pretty sure undine doesnt give chi, i know it doesn't cost any, but dont think it gives any.
    Aye, was only saying what i know, never used/had/seen elemtal shell so i dunno, ppl saying instant cast for chi, so im guessing it has quick cooldown like undine then?
  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    ye, you might be right.
    I need to go home to test it though...
    Damn, now I wonder what the hell is wrong with my combo...lol.
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  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    most people use sutra FoW then MS. I like that or ele shell to get the extra chi :P

    @Mokana - ele shell has a 30 second cooldown, and instant cast means u dont need to stop to use it. You can be running/flying etc and use it without wasting any time
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  • MarshelTriga - Heavens Tear
    MarshelTriga - Heavens Tear Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Ty all :D that was lots of help :P so im gonna do it in the suggested order and also get the mold stuff :P
  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    most people use sutra FoW then MS. I like that or ele shell to get the extra chi :P

    @Mokana - ele shell has a 30 second cooldown, and instant cast means u dont need to stop to use it. You can be running/flying etc and use it without wasting any time

    /doublefacepalm.
    I forgot about the FoW in there. I don't get the Chi from Undine, I get it from FoW.
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  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    /doublefacepalm.
    I forgot about the FoW in there. I don't get the Chi from Undine, I get it from FoW.

    lol <3 Ursa
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  • Mr_Mokona - Lost City
    Mr_Mokona - Lost City Posts: 95 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    @Mokana - ele shell has a 30 second cooldown, and instant cast means u dont need to stop to use it. You can be running/flying etc and use it without wasting any time

    Get ya, thanks. b:cute
  • HexOmega - Dreamweaver
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,342 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    i didnt use whisper for about 1 month until i hit this thread xD
    totaly forgot about it :O - genie expel was so awesome

    whisper is a chi waster >.> imagine what u can do with that spark
    "only" good for interrupting killing blows


    i spam shell wherever i am, running, flying, between skills ....
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  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    i didnt use whisper for about 1 month until i hit this thread xD
    totaly forgot about it :O - genie expel was so awesome

    whisper is a chi waster >.> imagine what u can do with that spark
    "only" good for interrupting killing blows


    i spam shell wherever i am, running, flying, between skills ....

    it only costs 20 chi.. which is almost nothing. Its great to hold someone still so you can bypass their charm with an ult.. or give u a few seconds to get away. In TW I've used it to cancel archer zhens.. its fun to find like 2 archers zhenning and FoW one and sleep the other. Anyway its an amazing skill, to not get or use it is only handicapping yourself
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  • HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver
    HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver Posts: 574 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    do you use your 79 skills for grinding or just for pvp?
  • CeliaZ - Sanctuary
    CeliaZ - Sanctuary Posts: 901 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Are there any uses for sleep in PVE?
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  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I rarely use sleep in PvE.. the only time it really makes sense to use it is when you're grinding and some mob is about to tick you (lets say you grabbed like 5 to aoe), you could sleep them and heal yourself or use a pot etc. Sleep is really more of a pvp skill.

    Undine is semi useful in PvE.. if you've got multiple wizards in a party its worth keeping a boss undined for the extra DPS. It's also useful against magic resist mobs.

    Ele shell is actually pretty useful in PvE. Besides that extra 15chi every 30 seconds, I've used ele shell to prevent ticks, or in cases of bosses like 2-3 wurlord (or w/e one you gotta kill multiple times before he drops mats xD) you can put ele shell on the puller or the tank etc to help them take that first magic attack if they aren't well geared.
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  • Xarathos - Harshlands
    Xarathos - Harshlands Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Undine is semi useful in PvE.. if you've got multiple wizards in a party its worth keeping a boss undined for the extra DPS. It's also useful against magic resist mobs.

    ya or psychics.. since they also use water and earth and fast spells its a nice dmg boost









    i got today the sleep spell and must say its not that bad for pvp lol.. but 2 min !!!! cooldown so u have to use it wisely

    then i tried it in fc.. and its useless there.. all mobs and bosses resist against that sleep
    normal mobs in fb's work with that sleep and its nice when 2 mobs attacking u, so u can sleep 1 and spark them away lol

    and then a lvl 90 bm also told me today in fc that he dont like me coz wizzys are useless in fc and he prefers archer or bm's... lol. (which is totally bullsh.. coz theres anyway a bm set and other is preferable archer or wiz and anyway think he dont have a clue of what he was talking bout lol )
  • kknboy
    kknboy Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Question: How much chi does elemental shell give?
  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    kknboy wrote: »
    Question: How much chi does elemental shell give?

    15chi, with a cooldown of 30 seconds
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  • kknboy
    kknboy Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    thank you very much.