best job and players playing pw

tomergilad1
tomergilad1 Posts: 4 Arc User
edited April 2010 in General Discussion
how many people playing pw?
what best job for lvl fastest without buy cash?
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  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    lot of people play, venomancer is easy mode for pw. most people who play them suck and get away with it because its such a noob class.
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  • tomergilad1
    tomergilad1 Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    i dont know blademaster or wizard?
    wizard got aoe?
    blademaster got aoe?
    who stronger?
    who better?
    how much time its will take me to lvl up from lvl 1 to 30 if i play 3 hours a day
  • Pressa - Heavens Tear
    Pressa - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,287 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    lot of people play, venomancer is easy mode for pw. most people who play them suck and get away with it because its such a noob class.

    >.> I dislike the content of that post just because it hold true on your server don't mean it holds true for em all.

    All classes have AoEs there are no stronger classes or better classes. It depends on how you want to play.

    1-30 shouldn't take more then 3 weeks at that rate if you are really newby
    that is.


    What types of classes do you usually play or what are you looking for?
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  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    >.> I dislike the content of that post just because it hold true on your server don't mean it holds true for em all.

    All classes have AoEs there are no stronger classes or better classes. It depends on how you want to play.

    1-30 shouldn't take more then 3 weeks at that rate if you are really newby
    that is.


    What types of classes do you usually play or what are you looking for?
    3 weeks? you can get to 30 in a day or two if you stuck to it.

    back on point, veno takes no work to use. if you want a forgiving beginner class, play it
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  • Pressa - Heavens Tear
    Pressa - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,287 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    3 weeks? you can get to 30 in a day or two if you stuck to it.

    back on point, veno takes no work to use. if you want a forgiving beginner class, play it

    He said if he plays 3 hours a day how long would it take to get to 30. The answer is usually 2 weeks. It takes 9 hours to get from 1-19 and varying time after that depending on the class.
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  • Pure_Black - Harshlands
    Pure_Black - Harshlands Posts: 78 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Venomancer is easiest to play with because they have a pet. But in end game it's not really a challenge to send in your pet and heal it

    Blademasters are the melee AOE gods. They have the most aoe's out of all classes, when playing fist/axe you have access to at least 8+ aoe's i believe

    Barbs are the tanks, they don't die easily, but are not the best damage dealers at lower levels, they start to shine at 90+. GOOD barbs are always welcome in any squad.

    Wizards are the hardest hitting class with a single skill. but they die very easy. Be prepared for a lot of hard work and dedication. got a strong continues AOE skill. Same as with barbs they don't start to shine untill 90+

    Clerics are a healing class, ALWAYS needed in any PVE squad if you play instances of your own level. Clerics are good throughout all the levels.

    Archers are ranged attackers, and best DD's till at least 95+. Then they can be matched by'fist BM's or good builded wizards. Same as clerics archers are good throughout all levels.

    Psychic's are magic ranged DD. They have very high damage per second, but tend to die very quickly if not carefull. Unlike wizards they have lots of regular AOE's but no constant AOE. also they have alot of buffs and debuffs making them more a support class then a nuke class

    Assassins are tailor made to kill arcane users. They are sneaky, hit hard in single attacks, but die very quick if you fail to kill your target before you can escape their attacks

    1-30 will take about 3-5 days if you play 3 hours and do your quests. If you will ever roll an alt you'll notice that level 1-30 can be done in 3-5 hours
  • tomergilad1
    tomergilad1 Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    about what lvl all jobs get new skills after lvl 1?
  • Pure_Black - Harshlands
    Pure_Black - Harshlands Posts: 78 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Every class gets new skills through al levels. read the guides which skill to upgrade and which to leave alone for the lower levels. At 95 you should be able to max every skill to level 10 once you have the coin for it.
  • tomergilad1
    tomergilad1 Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    there is a way to change game money to cash in game?
    or only to do it with people?
  • Lairian - Sanctuary
    Lairian - Sanctuary Posts: 8,209 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    there is a way to change game money to cash in game?
    or only to do it with people?

    Not exactly sure what your asking here. Do you mean is there a way to change in game coin to real life money? The answer is simply no. There is a way to turn real life money into in game coin, but not the other way around.
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  • Pure_Black - Harshlands
    Pure_Black - Harshlands Posts: 78 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    if you want to get more ingame coin by charging $$$ then yes, that is possible. You can sell your "zen" for ingame coins. You can charge zhen by spending $ on the PWI website through several ways. Pick the one you want and follow instructions.

    The other way around is a big no. You cannot make $ out of zen, once charged it's a in-game currency only.
  • Macenza - Archosaur
    Macenza - Archosaur Posts: 102 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    1-30 will take about 3-5 days if you play 3 hours and do your quests. If you will ever roll an alt you'll notice that level 1-30 can be done in 3-5 hours

    your both right and wrong there, if u plan to do 1-30 in 3-5 hours, ull be using hyper exp, if u dont use hypers, it will take a full day.
  • Pervera - Lost City
    Pervera - Lost City Posts: 137 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Venomancer is easiest to play with because they have a pet. But in end game it's not really a challenge to send in your pet and heal

    It seem like you have no shiny idea about veno gameplay but you claim to know better.
  • FoxyCleo - Raging Tide
    FoxyCleo - Raging Tide Posts: 290 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    It seem like you have no shiny idea about veno gameplay but you claim to know better.

    Watch out, Troll will go for your throat in 3...2...1...
  • Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,222 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    It seem like you have no shiny idea about veno gameplay but you claim to know better.

    Or you are doing something wrong b:surrender.

    Lure - Send it pet attack once and then stow it. Use tame pet skill.
    Attack - Send in pet and let it do what it has to do while attacking and healing.
    Healing Pet - Drag skill to hotbar and press '1'
    Tanking - Keep pet healed and attack while using relevant pet skills.
    Bosses - Cast amplify damage, purge, ironwood etc when needed.
    Spark - Simply cast lending hand to relevant person, if you do have chi spam heal pet.
    Bramble - Cast bramble on those who need it or want it.

    There is a comprehensive guide to a Veno's squad role and nothing about it is too challenging at all, well unless it has changed since i played my Veno anyway.

    Veno's = Easy Mode of PW (PvE), so deal with it. I get tired of hearing people say 'Veno's aren't easy mode, they are a hard class to play blah blah blah'.

    On a more positive note i like the Veno class and enjoy squadding with them in FF/TT so don't call me a hater b:chuckle.

    EDIT: Now i look like the troll b:cry. (Looks at previous post).
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    PoisonedTip - Veno 7x (Retired)
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  • Hhlolz - Harshlands
    Hhlolz - Harshlands Posts: 574 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    As everyone says; best way of making money is merchanting (i myself never understood/have the patience for it).

    Then another option would be solo HH runs in squad mode (need veno class for this, with legendary pet or higher lvl noob pet).

    Aoe grinding on BM makes good money too if you know what your doing and if u got a cleric to heal.

    and just ignore what they say about venos, after 90-100 it definatly requires skills, since every lvl 100 got +10 weap and +7 armors. but till 90 you can simply just bleed kill anyone lolz
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  • Pervera - Lost City
    Pervera - Lost City Posts: 137 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Or you are doing something wrong b:surrender.

    Lure - Send it pet attack once and then stow it. Use tame pet skill.

    And pray for no lag and don't miss click or youre dead. In eg. 1-3 if youre arcane with low pdef you have to be perfect or run throught whole dungeon once again.

    Attack - Send in pet and let it do what it has to do while attacking and healing.

    And in case of non legendary pet try to not get healing aggro and time it properly to not let pet die (its kinda easy).

    Healing Pet - Drag skill to hotbar and press '1'

    And wait 4 times longer than if you were casting.

    Tanking - Keep pet healed and attack while using relevant pet skills.

    And fall asleep. You can use debuffs and cast in meantime what gives lot of heartbreaks if boss will take 40 min to redo.

    Bosses - Cast amplify damage, purge, ironwood etc when needed.

    Quite bit of skills comparing to IH cleric spam for example.

    Spark - Simply cast lending hand to relevant person, if you do have chi spam heal pet.
    Bramble - Cast bramble on those who need it or want it.

    There is a comprehensive guide to a Veno's squad role and nothing about it is too challenging at all, well unless it has changed since i played my Veno anyway.

    Veno's = Easy Mode of PW (PvE), so deal with it. I get tired of hearing people say 'Veno's aren't easy mode, they are a hard class to play blah blah blah'.

    On a more positive note i like the Veno class and enjoy squadding with them in FF/TT so don't call me a hater b:chuckle.

    EDIT: Now i look like the troll b:cry. (Looks at previous post).

    It just depends how you play veno. If you aim for difficult instances or bosses thats are not easy as well it requires quite bit of skill and fancy and wise gear set.


    I can say the same way about cleric. Join squad, buff, follow and IH spam on tank and purify from time to time if required. Can be as well join, buff, follow, BB. xD


    EDIT: Waaah, i forgot to mention that usually venos are taking lead in instances and saves your butts by taking aggro from mobs that you pulled by accident.
  • Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,222 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    It just depends how you play veno. If you aim for difficult instances or bosses thats are not easy as well it requires quite bit of skill and fancy and wise gear set.


    I can say the same way about cleric. Join squad, buff, follow and IH spam on tank and purify from time to time if required. Can be as well join, buff, follow, BB. xD

    A normal cleric cant solo most mobs, bosses, TT runs or FF. Where as Veno's can pretty much kill anything and everything b:surrender.

    Cleric takes alot more concentration, you have to be able to read what is happening incase the **** hits the fan and gets messy. I wish the squads i joined made it that easy though, maybe i can have a legendary aide to heal for me, leaving me free to DD?

    Edit: I never said that Veno's were useless or pointless lol, like i said earlier i like the class and what they bring to a squad. Personally, they bored the living **** out of me, nothing was to hard at all and with a herc....well that would be like tutorial difficulty b:chuckle. Don't think me of someone who hates Veno's though because i don't. Currently i dislike psy's as they seem a waste of a spot unless they have awesome gear to be of value.
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  • Yulk - Heavens Tear
    Yulk - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,951 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    3 weeks? you can get to 30 in a day or two if you stuck to it.

    back on point, veno takes no work to use. if you want a forgiving beginner class, play it

    its not like there is people who sit on their butts all day on a video game, there is things to do irl. b:surrender

    Edit: btw, your right, veno is ridiculously easy to play.
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  • Pervera - Lost City
    Pervera - Lost City Posts: 137 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    A normal cleric cant solo most mobs, bosses, TT runs or FF. Where as Veno's can pretty much kill anything and everything b:surrender.

    Cleric takes alot more concentration, you have to be able to read what is happening incase the **** hits the fan and gets messy. I wish the squads i joined made it that easy though, maybe i can have a legendary aide to heal for me, leaving me free to DD?

    Im not telling who can solo or who can't. The Veno CAN solo costs around 80m and there were said words there's nothing challenging in veno. Yes it is, just depends how and where you play, i was playing cleric and for me it was boring and completely unchallenging (well, if you dont merchant getting a charms is something overhelming) but with veno i have fun and I cant say thats easy cause I always will find me something to beat that is difficult.

    BTW: IDK about venos soloing frost but for me danicg with pet aroud thundercaw is something that i cant do. It needs extremally cold blood or just higher level, lol.
  • VlLKASS - Sanctuary
    VlLKASS - Sanctuary Posts: 1,396 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    back on point, veno takes no work to use.
    I'd suggest to OP get an archer, takes absolutely no brain to use & is very forgiving. Most of the stuff dies before it comes even close to you. Actually even at higher lvls is easy as hell.

    Veno is good if you dump tons of money into leg pets, which I'm assuming OP won't. Otherwise, if you got normal pets, then you'll actually have to LEARN & KNOW how to play to get invitied or wanted in squads.

    Archers are just DD. While Venos are DD, tankers & supporters, I'd say it's lots of work. Archer is just auto atk till the thing is dead.
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  • KrittyCat - Dreamweaver
    KrittyCat - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,273 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    You can always try a psychic...same as archers (rarely ever get hit), and spend less on hp pots (can cast BoL to heal themselves after finishing a mob). Fairly cheap to maintain too...
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  • Tremblewith - Heavens Tear
    Tremblewith - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,558 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    It really depends on how you would like to play. At end-game for any class, to have sexy awesome gear, your either gonna farm 3-2/3-3/Nirvana for mats, then sell for profit, merchant, and/or Cashshop.

    Now... All classes are good and it really just depends on what your looking for. Ranged class? Magic class? Melee class? Big AoE fan?

    Blademaster - Semi-tank/Great DD/AoE
    Venomancer - Good solo class/can tank/good DD
    Barbarian - Main tank/Lotta HP
    Wizard - Great DD/Ranged magic
    Cleric - Healer/Okay DD
    Pyschic/Assasin - Both good DDs
    Archer - Great ranged DD
  • Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,222 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Im not telling who can solo or who can't. The Veno CAN solo costs around 80m and there were said words there's nothing challenging in veno. Yes it is, just depends how and where you play, i was playing cleric and for me it was boring and completely unchallenging (well, if you dont merchant getting a charms is something overhelming) but with veno i have fun and I cant say thats easy cause I always will find me something to beat that is difficult.

    BTW: IDK about venos soloing frost but for me danicg with pet aroud thundercaw is something that i cant do. It needs extremally cold blood or just higher level, lol.

    You missed my edit b:chuckle.

    I didn't mean Veno's could so everything in the game but more than any other class, obviously there is some they cannot tank. Either way Veno's are the most versatile and soloable class there is with very little difficulty throughout the game.
    Blademaster - Semi-tank/Great DD/AoE
    Venomancer - Good solo class/can tank/good DD
    Barbarian - Main tank/Lotta HP
    Wizard - Great DD/Ranged magic
    Cleric - Healer/Okay DD
    Pyschic/Assasin - Both good DDs
    Archer - Great ranged DD

    Blademaster - Semi-Tank/Good DD/AOE Stuns/AOE/Possibly Awesome DPS
    Venomancer - Easy Solo Class/Tank/Support/DD/Cheerleader
    Barbarian - Main Tank/Awesome Health/Awesome Defence/Lower Attack
    Wizard - Awesome DD/Ranged Magic
    Cleric - Healer/Support/Decent DD
    Pyschic - Great DD/AOE Stuns/Fish (Only with awesome gear otherwise just AOE Stun and Fish)
    Assassin - Meh not sure yet
    Archer - Awesome DD/Smexy

    That's what i think of those classes b:chuckle.
    Nah, veno is a noob class. I couldn't even level my alt veno past 7x seeing as it was so boring and easy to play.

    I managed to get to 74 and that was close to torture and needed something that needed more thinking b:surrender.
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  • Nakhimov - Lost City
    Nakhimov - Lost City Posts: 1,829 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    >.> I dislike the content of that post just because it hold true on your server don't mean it holds true for em all.

    Nah, veno is a noob class. I couldn't even level my alt veno past 7x seeing as it was so boring and easy to play.
    Bladestorm lets you spin around like a carnival ride and do damage. Not using it is almost like having a move called Confetti Rocket Power Leap and saving it for "emergencies"
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  • KrittyCat - Dreamweaver
    KrittyCat - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,273 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Blademaster - Semi-Tank/Good DD/AOE Stuns/AOE/Possibly Awesome DPS
    Venomancer - Easy Solo Class/Tank/Support/DD/Cheerleader
    Barbarian - Main Tank/Awesome Health/Awesome Defence/Lower Attack
    Wizard - Awesome DD/Ranged Magic
    Cleric - Healer/Support/Decent DD
    Pyschic - Great DD/AOE Stuns/Fish (Only with awesome gear otherwise just AOE Stun and Fist)
    Assassin - Meh not sure yet
    Archer - Awesome DD/Smexy

    That's what i think of those classes b:chuckle.

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  • Pervera - Lost City
    Pervera - Lost City Posts: 137 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I managed to get to 74 and that was close to torture and needed something that needed more thinking b:surrender.

    Im gettin you point, anyway my advice is to go farher, get you a fatty and solo instances cause for me thats whole fun about veno. My current goal is to solo djinscream till lvl95 that is not gonna be cheap nor easy. On 95+ and lunar weapon that is obvioulsy worth of making it +10 i guess it's not that hard but then there is 3-2 and 3-3, idk about those djin spawns. However im kind of ahiever and explorer kind not the get max level and **** all kind so whats fun for me can be pointelss money burning for vast majority.

    Anyways, the point is there are no noob classes but there are players that just don't mach to given class thus they expect something that it can't provide.

    My personal fav class (not strictly in PWI) was always a Zerking Barb, idk why I've still not played it here but one of the reasons was animal shape, when I started I couldn't get over the fact that I'll not have human face xD.
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    EDIT: Now i look like the troll b:cry. (Looks at previous post).

    ohu

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  • Yindra - Sanctuary
    Yindra - Sanctuary Posts: 784 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Veno is good if you dump tons of money into leg pets, which I'm assuming OP won't. Otherwise, if you got normal pets, then you'll actually have to LEARN & KNOW how to play to get invitied or wanted in squads.

    Yeah, that lovely "need to know how to play" speech. Never ceases to amaze me how clueless people can repeat this over and over again, yet guide writers completely fail to tell people what they "need to know".

    Here's what you "need to know" as a Venomancer: the secret skill that makes your golem tank bosses without getting killed in no time at all. If you don't know that secret skill (if you do then don't tell anyone, or else it will no longer be the secret skill and the wannabe-pros will loose their "need to know" speech that they love so much because it makes everyone else look like an idiot) then the next best thing you "need to you know" is to stay away from bosses.

    A very good thing I actually do need to know but don't is how level difference affects damage --- not knowing this puts a great deal of risk on the attempt to take a successful bosskill to try and deduct what level to be to try the next boss based on comparing database data. But who cares, we have already established that I'm one of the clueless idiots who doesn't know how to play this game and therefore can't even kill bosses their own level with their free pets. What a looser.

    Now, as everyone (except the wannabe pros with their "need to know" speeches) is a clueless idiot who doesn't even know how to kill bosses his own level with free pets, the "easy solo class" is kind of questionable. While I do often get invites to reject (come to think of it, wasn't there a checkbox to do just that?), those people still don't leave the area --- they SOLO the monsters there. Even though they are not Venomancers! Now of course, they probably know how to play the game and all that (which I don't, 'cause I'm a Venomancer who doesn't even know how to tank bosses his own level with free pets. What a looser) so they are actually soloing monsters. Wow. If that isn't pro I don't know what is.

    I don't know whether these people know the game well enough to be able to tank bosses their own level without pets at all --- probably not, 'cause there are far to many people playing the game, and not everyone can be a "pro". 'Cause if everyone were a "pro", then those "need to know" speeches would just be upgraded to the super-pros. So lets just stick to the standard definition --- everyone is an idiot, and there's just a pro or two roaming around the forums telling everyone they just need to know how to tank bosses their own level with free pets to be qualified for whatever.

    Anyway, being the idiot who doesn't even know how to tank bosses my own level with free pets, I can indeed solo non-boss monsters. But so can everyone else, apparently.

    Now, I don't know how everyone else handles normal dungeon monsters --- but frankly, I do prefer to wait a few levels before doing these quests, and there aren't THAT many dungeon quests that don't involve bosses. Because, as we've already established, only the real pros know how to tank bosses their own level with free pets. Everyone else is just screwed.
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    As an archer I am much more limited by the tanks ability or hold aggro or the clerics willingness to heal me than my DD abilities.

    You could auto-attack.. or you could cast Blood vow (+25% damage amp), demon tooth (+10% crit), demon spark (+500% weapon dam / +25% attack speed), frenzy (+20 attack level), extreme poison (+20% damage amp), and enjoy your normal arrows getting 90k crits. An archers job is to make everything die fast and there are a lot of tools you have to achieve this.
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