~~~Legenary pet skills scrolls!

Aniella - Harshlands

Hi, i have seen ppl that have sold legendary pet skills scroll and many diff scrolls i did't even know exist.
Here is some question about it:

a) How many diff scrolls exsit on this game?

b) Where to get them?

c) Witch scroll is best?

d) Witch 1 is most rare?


I wnat legenary scrolls for my sawfly, and i have prob to find them and when i do they cost 6m-18m. i have talk to ppl that got them for only 2-3m..

http://i1045.photobucket.com/albums/b458/musikk94/JegVetIkkeKaJeg%20skal%20skrive/adasdas.jpg?

Those skills do i got on sawfly:S i wnat more legedary skills..xD

kenlee

have you tried to look at veno page? http://pwi-wiki.perfectworld.com/index.php/Pet_Skills
my guess is no...
you wont find any skill for 2-3m ever. do you want some good skills? prepare to pay 15m+

aeroxtert

I paid 45mil for blessing, then i found out i didnt need itb:cry

MystiMonk - Sanctuary

It is better to save up for a Nix as buying these are a waste of coin on a sawfly.

Hhlolz - Harshlands

Also, if you decide to get nix, DONT replace claw with a buff... it is the most terrible thing you can do.

kenlee

Hhlolz - Harshlands wrote: »

Also, if you decide to get nix, DONT replace claw with a buff... it is the most terrible thing you can do.

btw, how much coins you've paid for blesing scroll?

Aniella - Harshlands

Its not wase of coins atm..nix cost 75m+
and legdary skils i wnat cost maybe 20m and i only need 2 ..so save 35m^-^ so don't call it wase of coins..:D

i want claw<_< it make pet do more dg atm..aslo maybe get hp buff have been nice..but pain in **** to get-.-
Alredy got bloodthirst wery good skils work good on mobs^^ and..if ppl try pk sawfly..he steal their hp >:D to heal him self b:chuckle
it was expeisve but worth it:O

well w sawfly i get get rare skills that nix/herc don't have^^so i make my own legdary pet >:D and nobody will be able to get same skills as i get:O..

kenlee

Aniella - Harshlands wrote: »

well w sawfly i get get rare skills that nix/herc don't have^^so i make my own legdary pet >:D and nobody will be able to get same skills as i get:O..

and again since you dont want to understand
even w/o buffs (at lvl 90) nix is still much better than sawfly and buffs (since it works in percentage) is making nix even more better

          HP    Atk    P.def  	M.def  	Acc.  	Dodge  	Atk/s  	m/s 
nix      3446  	4096  	8952  	10742  	2603  	1531  	1.0     10.9
sawfly   2279  	3297  	5921  	5921  	1976  	1215  	0.6     8.8

tweakz

kenlee wrote: »

and again since you dont want to understand
even w/o buffs (at lvl 90) nix is still much better than sawfly and buffs (since it works in percentage) is making nix even more better

          HP    Atk    P.def  	M.def  	Acc.  	Dodge  	Atk/s  	m/s 
nix      3446  	4096  	8952  	10742  	2603  	1531  	1.0     10.9
sawfly   2279  	3297  	5921  	5921  	1976  	1215  	0.6     8.8

Ignore also that the Nix atk rate is almost 2x that of a sawfly, the difference gets even vaster at Lv.100+ and with amp, pdef debuff, extreme poison, etc. Paying more than half the price for a pet with far less than half the worth is nuts.

Hhlolz - Harshlands

kenlee wrote: »

btw, how much coins you've paid for blesing scroll?

Too much, 45m... i should have spend it on something better, not even using the hp bufb:angry

MystiMonk - Sanctuary

Aniella - Harshlands wrote: »

Its not wase of coins atm..nix cost 75m+
and legdary skils i wnat cost maybe 20m and i only need 2 ..so save 35m^-^ so don't call it wase of coins..:D

i want claw<_< it make pet do more dg atm..aslo maybe get hp buff have been nice..but pain in **** to get-.-
Alredy got bloodthirst wery good skils work good on mobs^^ and..if ppl try pk sawfly..he steal their hp >:D to heal him self b:chuckle
it was expeisve but worth it:O

well w sawfly i get get rare skills that nix/herc don't have^^so i make my own legdary pet >:D and nobody will be able to get same skills as i get:O..

A Nix will still beat it though and for pve you don't need all those skills just upgrade bash and maybe put flesh ream on it.You were close to getting a Nix if didn't buy all those skills as a Nixs skills are all lvl 5 except one of them.

Aniella - Harshlands

kenlee wrote: »

and again since you dont want to understand
even w/o buffs (at lvl 90) nix is still much better than sawfly and buffs (since it works in percentage) is making nix even more better

          HP    Atk    P.def  	M.def  	Acc.  	Dodge  	Atk/s  	m/s 
nix      3446  	4096  	8952  	10742  	2603  	1531  	1.0     10.9
sawfly   2279  	3297  	5921  	5921  	1976  	1215  	0.6     8.8

STOOOOPPPP THIS IS ABOUT SCROLLS NOT ABOUT DIFF on sawfly- nix..NOTHING W THIS TO DO!!! READ THE TEXT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

truekossy

Aniella - Harshlands wrote: »

STOOOOPPPP THIS IS ABOUT SCROLLS NOT ABOUT DIFF on sawfly- nix..NOTHING W THIS TO DO!!! READ THE TEXT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You should really consider learning how to read. Questions a, b, and d were all answered in the very first reply to this thread. Question c was a matter of opinion. Said opinion happens to be that you're wasting your coin trying to buy these skills and put them on a sawfly when a Phoenix is superior to the fly in every way not to mention starting out with 3 legendary skills already maxed when you first hatch it.

Next time, I suggest you take your own advice and read the text.

King_Solomon - Heavens Tear

Aniella I'm not going to play troll. I bet your bee does what you claim. I've seen with my very eyes HL is filled with fail PKers so no big deal. Maybe if someday you happen to deal with a real PKer you'll consider what has been written here. It's not all about numbers. They know how it works.

Aniella - Harshlands

well u ppl don't know how i play so don't think u do.
well tell meh do nix/herc have Bloodthirst?? NO bc its legdary and nix/herc don't got those"
and i think legdary scrolls are intrsting and good to use..and fun to get skills that no others 7234982384723742389 got before.

SO STOOP talk **** about others you never ever have seen BEFORE! worse thing you cna do to others !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i pk everyday 3-6hr ..i only see ppl that are 4 vs 1 and 2 vs 1..lol i play real so always 1 vs 1..and try pk hige lvls i don't care about if i lose i try,...or win

Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear

...you wasted that much on a sawfly?

You want to get Bless on your sawfly?!

The only thing I am going to say is that you shouldn't waste so much money on a sawfly.

And..based on your yelling and random screaming, and inability to comprehend things that other people are saying, which are so much better then your choices, I won't really choose to argue with you.

It's simple..the money your spending on a sawfly is stupid.

I don't really care what you said in that other thread, saying you often kill 95+ people as well as 100+ sometimes, I doubt that, unless they are just pure fail...any level 95+ should 1-2 shot you.

*waits for you to yell at me through the computer screen*

kenlee

dont bother with her, ppl ignore her on HL. 18mil for a useless skill like bloodthirst (even if its rare scroll), like 50mil for blessing... thats already the price for a nix and still doesnt have claw or pounce. even with all those scrolls that sawfly has like 50-60% of nix survivability but there are ppl like her that refuse to think

Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear

I figured..although I enjoy it sometimes when people rip their hair to try and prove themselves.

Aniella - Harshlands

Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear wrote: »

...you wasted that much on a sawfly?

You want to get Bless on your sawfly?!

The only thing I am going to say is that you shouldn't waste so much money on a sawfly.

And..based on your yelling and random screaming, and inability to comprehend things that other people are saying, which are so much better then your choices, I won't really choose to argue with you.

It's simple..the money your spending on a sawfly is stupid.

I don't really care what you said in that other thread, saying you often kill 95+ people as well as 100+ sometimes, I doubt that, unless they are just pure fail...any level 95+ should 1-2 shot you.

*waits for you to yell at me through the computer screen*

lol i got alot money..i like wase them away>:D
i do that i want..and i like sawfly he is good pet!
i build my own pets..make them spesial.. i useed my pets over 70 lvls..and know how to use them! - i like them always be in my bag..

well i don't care if y don't belive..but i know i talk true..and now i see who good im..since ya peps don't belive it..and learn to respect what other meanings are..or ya have nothing on this forum to do!

Aniella - Harshlands

kenlee wrote: »

dont bother with her, ppl ignore her on HL. 18mil for a useless skill like bloodthirst (even if its rare scroll), like 50mil for blessing... thats already the price for a nix and still doesnt have claw or pounce. even with all those scrolls that sawfly has like 50-60% of nix survivability but there are ppl like her that refuse to think

well nix cost 75m and my ept wil cost 40m w its done:D and i save alot..i like sawfly..and he don't die as much as ya peps think.

well im able to kill ppl how are 6-10 lvls higer..why??? bc i use skills and my head not only a pet and QQ w it die LOL. if pet die i still atk, bc i can pk good w/o pets too.

im not fail and i can play, im real player not fail.
As all ya peps think! i respect others and i do what i whant too.
stop talk **** to meh LEARN respect, that its other ppl in thise game thats not fail.well i have never used oracles or fc to lvl..only lvl by do quest/cs/bh..i know how to play.

i just wnat to get a good pet w legdary skills:o why ya peps so angry about that??? why ya can't respect a sawfly w rare skills???? and why ya pep don't blive in that i write!
can't ya ppl kil lvl 95..they are easy **** hell to kill..and no prob.
atm i never use hp charms/pots in pk!

Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear

*Facepalm*

Energize - Heavens Tear

Also, you can get the rare scrolls from either of these 5 chests in the Dragon Temple Raid
http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/mine/12253

kenlee

@Aniella: the only agry person in this thread is you. i know you wear something like elemental necklace and other cheap gear but there must be absolutely fail players 10 lvls higher than you if they die. sorry to burst your bubble

@Energize chances to get a specific skill on your own is like winning the lottery

MystiMonk - Sanctuary

Energize - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Also, you can get the rare scrolls from either of these 5 chests in the Dragon Temple Raid
http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/mine/12253

Where is this place I might want to try and get claw.

Desiree - Harshlands

Here's an opinion from an experienced venomancer who has experimented with numerous combinations of rare pet scrolls.

My tried combos:
- Petite Sawfly with Claw
- Baby Blazing Phoenix with Reflect
- Baby Blazing Phoenix with Strong and Protect
- Crystalline Magmite with Strong, Protect and Reflect
- Glacial Walker with Strong and Reflect
- Baby Hercules with Blessing of the Pack

My comments:

Sawfly vs nix:
A buffed sawfly is almost the same an unbuffed nix in terms of base damage; HOWEVER, the nix is far superior due to numerous reasons.
For PvE, a nix's attack speed (1.0 attacks/second) is almost double that of the sawfly's (0.6 attacks/second), meaning a lot, lot more damage over time and greater ability to hold aggro - at 7x or higher, you will easily be able to steal aggro from your sawfly, even if it uses Bash and has the Claw buff.
For PvP, attack speed is meaningless due to the laughable damage pets do with normal attacks (yes, it builds up, but its really not significant later game). A nix's 3s stun skill Pounce is invaluable; while a sawfly can learn it, you have to find the scroll, which is quite expensive considering its great use in PvP. A nix's final flying speed is 11.0 m/s compared to a sawfly's 8.8 m/s - this speed difference can make the difference between whether or not your PK target gets Flesh Reamed (a ~5m ranged skill) or not.
In the end, a PK pet only serves one purpose: Flesh Ream the target. After it has done that, its only purpose is to hang around, maybe add in a few supportive skills like Pounce, then Flesh Ream the target again 15s later if the target hasn't been killed yet. Early on in lower lvl PvP (i.e. 7x/8x), the nix's stronger buffed base damage is deadly. At higher lvls where everyone's gear is much, much better (i.e. refined 9x/95/99 gear), the difference between a nix's bleed damage and a sawfly's bleed damage isn't all that significant compared to the damage the veno itself deals with her magic attacks. Thus, for PK damage purposes, a Claw'd sawfly is plenty sufficient and easily a sufficient PK pet as long as the venomancer knows how to play her class.
There is only ONE major problem that would prevent any venomancer from keeping a sawfly on an open PvP server. This would be the sawfly's terrible survivability. At lvl 90, a sawfly has under 2.3k HP and measly 6k pdef/mdef. That's an easy 1-shot by any respectable class. Any right-minded PKer would quickly dispose of the sawfly, then move on to the veno. In comparison, a nix has almost 3.5k HP, 9k pdef, 11k mdef. Not to mention a default Blessing of the Pack buff, increasing that HP to 4.5k HP. That means something like 3-4 shots to kill the nix - plenty of time for the veno to either react and heal the nix or go in for the kill while the target is distracted. Trying to buff up your Sawfly further than a Claw scroll would be a complete waste of money. In a large scale PvP situation like TW, a sawfly will be dying non-stop if caught in any AoE of sort. In such situations where a veno's role is to constantly purge+amp targets and bleed the squishy targets, nix survivability is highly important. See the Strong+Protect nix combo.

Reflect nix:
This was a fruitless experiment. I wanted to see how useful Reflect on my nix would be against BMs that AoE in PK, and also for AoE grinding purposes. The result is that the Reflect damage is terrible for both damage back to the BM and damage to the mobs (I was testing it on 3rd past mobs - my Gundam did a much better job though single target defence-mode nixing still ended up being faster EXP). Unless you tank with your nix (i.e. almost never), putting reflect on a nix is a waste of a skill slot (especially when you removed Blessing of the Pack like I did). Instead, if you plan on removing Blessing of the Pack, add in either Strong for PvE or Sacrifice for PvP. Sacrifice is like a fourth bleed tick at the cost of your nix losing 75% of its HP. It can be combined with Bloodhunger, but that would require trashing both Bless and Pounce for a combo I have never tried (due to the skillbooks being so rare).

Super nix:
This is the ultimate mass PK nix (i.e. group PvP/TW). As I mentioned earlier, a nix is meant to Flesh Ream a target, then hang around surviving til Flesh Ream cools down. Replace Pounce and Blessing of the Pack with Strong and Protect, the herc's self buffs, and you have an unkillable nix. Yes, the nix will have less HP due to losing its Blessing of the Pack skill and yes, the nix will not be as useful in 1v1 PvP since it no longer has pounce. It will, however, take far, far less damage (i.e. roughly 60% of the damage it use to take unbuffed), meaning it will probably be harder to kill than you are. In a lagfest situation like TW where you don't always pay attention to the HP of your pet, this can make a huge difference.

Super Magmite:
I am probably one of the few (if not, only) veno who still uses a magmite as the main tank at end-game and does not have a herc (nor plan to). Why? Because my magmite (aka Gundam) has Strong, Protect, and Reflect skills - the three buffs that make normal hercs amazing tanks. Why did I do this? Both Strong and Reflect scrolls were farmed by me in Dragon Temple runs early in the game. Later on, gold prices rose with all sorts of new cash shop items, raising the cost to get a herc to over 70mil. In contrast, getting the last scroll, Protect, only costed me 5 mil. So I made a super magmite. Can it tank stuff well? Yes. Can it replace a herc? For most cases, yes. Can it tank everything I want it to? No.
At 90, a magmite's base pdef is 8.5k and mdef 5.8k and has 2.9k HP. In comparison, a 90 herc has 8.9k pdef, 7.1k mdef and 4.1k HP. When you consider the +150% buffs, these defence differences get more dramatic. Against normal physical attack bosses, a magmite does fine as long as I can keep up with the heals without lag and the boss does not hit more than 1.5k. Against a boss that also throws in a magical attack, however, I have to be careful. A magmite's mdef is pretty low and has under 3k HP. This means that a physical attack of 1k followed by a magical attack of 2k can 2-shot my magmite before I have a chance to heal it. This happens for most HH3-1 bosses and 2-3's Vipenant boss. A herc, on the other hand, will easily survive and can also take in an additional physical attack before needing to be healed.
For PvP, however, I like the magmite. With a base physical attack of 3.2k at 90 (pretty much the strongest land pet apart from scorpions) compared to the herc's 2.7k, a magmite's Flesh Ream hurts. While one may argue that the magmite's slow movement speed and slower attack rate puts it at a disadvantage, keep in mind that 1) most people will ignore the magmite and 2) normal physical attacks do little damage in PvP. Even if the target decides to attack the magmite, its not easy taking down a buffed magmite and the veno has plenty enough time to heal the pet. Its fun watching people be surprised when they either get @#$%d by a magmite or is unable to take it down. Its also sometimes fun when someone asks "where's your herc" and I take out my magmite and say "I don't need a herc, I have a Gundam" and then proceed to tank the boss ^_^

Super Glacial Walker:
In PvE, one of the worst problems with magmite tanking is the magmite's low mdef and HP. Many bosses my Gundam could just BARELY live, so tanking becomes a thing of chance. With a Glacial Walker, however, the higher mdef and HP will help overcome that chance margin. Still not as good as a herc, but for most purposes, plenty sufficient. I would have continued to get a Protect scroll for it but the moment I got a Blessing of the Pack scroll, I knew I had to get an actual herc.

Blessed Herc:
A herc with the Blessing of the Pack skill is the ultimate HH tanking pet. Replace the aggro skill (Bash/Flesh Ream) with Blessing of the Pack and you now have a herc with 5k+ HP. At lvl 100, maybe even 6k HP. Aggro is kept with Reflect and should be fine with [?] bosses as long as your party does not have an OP DD (Bless'd hercs are best for soloing HH). In a normal instance situation like FBs, however, the herc can no longer tank as it cannot steal back aggro. Now what, you may ask, is the use of a herc with limited party tanking abilities? The opening of extreme tanking situations. With a Blessed herc, I can tank world bosses. With a Blessed herc, I can tank HH3-2/3-3 bosses. With a Blessed herc, I can afford to lag badly.


Hope this helps clarify things for venos who have yet to experiment with the rare pet scrolls!

~Desiree

kenlee

MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »

Where is this place I might want to try and get claw.

Temple of the Dragon. weekly event (tuesday night), lvl 60+, everything is under water, lots of fast mobs, pk fest
the chances to get to a chest before getting pked or killed by mobs is slim then the chances to get a scroll are even less. no idea if its pk-enabled on pve servers

IceJazmin - Heavens Tear

kenlee wrote: »

Temple of the Dragon. weekly event (tuesday night), lvl 60+, everything is under water, lots of fast mobs, pk fest
the chances to get to a chest before getting pked or killed by mobs is slim then the chances to get a scroll are even less. no idea if its pk-enabled on pve servers

Yes, it is pk enabled on pve servers. And you even change colors to pink/red/bloody red so its pretty cool

If you dont have a good guild or party, it is very hard, if not impossible to even get to a chess, since large guilds like to run those events, and they will have a few protecton squads killing anything in sight.

You can also get bikinis from the chest..... that is how people used to do in the old times.

MystiMonk - Sanctuary

kenlee wrote: »

Temple of the Dragon. weekly event (tuesday night), lvl 60+, everything is under water, lots of fast mobs, pk fest
the chances to get to a chest before getting pked or killed by mobs is slim then the chances to get a scroll are even less. no idea if its pk-enabled on pve servers

Thanks best time to belong to Nef. in this case.

Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear

IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Yes, it is pk enabled on pve servers. And you even change colors to pink/red/bloody red so its pretty cool

You don't change colours from DT kills.

IceJazmin - Heavens Tear

Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear wrote: »

You don't change colours from DT kills.

When I went there last time (while ago), I got red..... however, once I got out I was back to blue. Maybe they changed it, it has been quite some time since I went there.

Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear

DT has never been like that.
I've done it since I think..if I remember correctly since October of 08.