Drop rate reduction forumla in parties?

Furries - Dreamweaver
Furries - Dreamweaver Posts: 966 Arc User
edited April 2010 in Dungeons & Tactics
Does ne1 actually know how drop rate

http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/drop

works in parties?

last hit? average lvl? most damage?

has this even been figured out?
Killing level 80's with a lvl 60 is a lot more fun than killing level 90's with a level 100.
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  • Aadi - Lost City
    Aadi - Lost City Posts: 4,449 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I believe it goes by the highest level in your party.

    I'm not quite sure though.
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  • SinCityChick - Dreamweaver
    SinCityChick - Dreamweaver Posts: 300 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Aadi - Lost City wrote: »
    I believe it goes by the highest level in your party.

    I'm not quite sure though.

    Yup. An admin has told us a couple of times that it is based on the highest level to engage the mob. If you have a level 89 cleric with a level 10 char, as long as the 89 does nothing but stand there (no healing or attacking) the level 10 char will still have the same drop-rate. However, if the 89 either attacks or heals (say his charge, the level 10, is almost dead), the drop-rate then plummets to whatever the 89 would get in that area.

    Does that answer your question?

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  • Solandri - Heavens Tear
    Solandri - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    SinCityChick - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Yup. An admin has told us a couple of times that it is based on the highest level to engage the mob. If you have a level 89 cleric with a level 10 char, as long as the 89 does nothing but stand there (no healing or attacking) the level 10 char will still have the same drop-rate. However, if the 89 either attacks or heals (say his charge, the level 10, is almost dead), the drop-rate then plummets to whatever the 89 would get in that area.
    Despite what the GMs said, what I've seen and tested in the game says it depends only on the highest level person in the squad. Doesn't matter whether they attack/heal or not. If you have multiple squads attacking the same mob, the testing I've done says it depends on the highest level of the squad which did the most damage.
  • _Garra_ - Harshlands
    _Garra_ - Harshlands Posts: 389 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I found that wen it comes to FB's and Bh's its the Cleric or Barb that gets most of the drops.. i think its based on how much work is done by the actual character...
  • Reivi - Sanctuary
    Reivi - Sanctuary Posts: 742 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    _Garra_ - Harshlands wrote: »
    I found that wen it comes to FB's and Bh's its the Cleric or Barb that gets most of the drops.. i think its based on how much work is done by the actual character...

    not entrely true

    did some test (something like 300 dungeons..) ... party of 4 ..all about same level (less than 10 lev difference)

    3 venos, 1 cleric

    Cleric afk, only heals when people already used pots, or dead.

    Cleric always has most of the loots
    The veno tanking (herc tanking to be exact) moderate loots, as the other veno who only is here to look at the others.
    the veno DDing and doing most damages always had lowest end.. and near nothing of loots
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  • _Garra_ - Harshlands
    _Garra_ - Harshlands Posts: 389 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Reivi - Sanctuary wrote: »
    not entrely true

    did some test (something like 300 dungeons..) ... party of 4 ..all about same level (less than 10 lev difference)

    3 venos, 1 cleric

    Cleric afk, only heals when people already used pots, or dead.

    Cleric always has most of the loots
    The veno tanking (herc tanking to be exact) moderate loots, as the other veno who only is here to look at the others.
    the veno DDing and doing most damages always had lowest end.. and near nothing of loots

    I dont totally agree with that .. cuz u can do nothing and still get everything. its happend.. i believe its based on either Random or who does the most work.
  • Sangodoc - Dreamweaver
    Sangodoc - Dreamweaver Posts: 501 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Reivi - Sanctuary wrote: »
    did some test (something like 300 dungeons..) ... party of 4 ..all about same level (less than 10 lev difference)
    [snip]
    the veno DDing and doing most damages always had lowest end.. and near nothing of loots
    "300 dungeons"? And let me guess, you were the one who got the "near nothing of loots"?

    I'm sorry, but I don't believe you. I'd really like to see your data, but I suspect that there isn't any. 300 is a ridiculously large number. Even if you were recording data from 2 dungeons a day, every day, it would take you 5 months to collect that data. There's no way you got the same 4 people to run that test twice a day for 5 months straight.

    I suspect this was just your estimate of what happened, and it's not really based on any objective measurement. In which case perception bias is a far more likely explanation than any convoluted yet flawed merit-based item distribution when you use the "Random" item distribution setting.

    When you don't get the loot 75% of the time it's easy to feel like you're getting "near nothing of loots", however in a party of 4, that's how uncommon it should be, on average. This is why I guessed that you believed that you were the one who got the least. It's easy to remember the annoying times you got no loot, it's not as easy to remember the times when you got around an average amount. This kind of thing leads to perception bias.

    The point is, random means random, not evenly distributed. Yeah, sometimes you'll get less than everyone else, but sometimes you'll get more too. That's what random means. Any attempts at an explanation for the distribution are just our attempts to impose order on chaos, when there really is no pattern there.
  • SweetDevyl - Lost City
    SweetDevyl - Lost City Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Hmmm, u seem pretty smart Sangodoc....however, she's lvl 100 and that makes the difference! I can do 4-5 dungeons a day at my lvl with the SAME ppl, and I don't even need more then 4-6 hours for that. You know...ppl have friends in this game too. ;)
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