Veteran Noob needs help

Magicgabe - Lost City
Magicgabe - Lost City Posts: 225 Arc User
edited April 2010 in Cleric
ok so I got some questions

1) does ToP work with Wings of Protection( the cleric skill, not the archer one)?

2) does Sage plume shell block 85% of ALL damage or just Physical( description seems to be unclear). And also, does that extra 5% get taken from mana still?

3) Sage silent seal(+2 seconds) and chromatic seal (+ 4 seconds). Do these additions add a FULL + x secs. or does it add UP TO + x seconds?

4) Sage thunder ball adds 15% more damage. Does this 15% apply to the initial attack, just the DoT or both?
and bro...fyi this isn't a story.

All people are idiodic but some are more idiotic than others.
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  • Magicgabe - Lost City
    Magicgabe - Lost City Posts: 225 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    nobody wanna help a noob?b:cry
    and bro...fyi this isn't a story.

    All people are idiodic but some are more idiotic than others.
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited April 2010
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  • Paramedic - Dreamweaver
    Paramedic - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,801 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    im not sage but uhh..
    1) does ToP work with Wings of Protection( the cleric skill, not the archer one)?
    u mean genie top? never tried, but max hp is max hp - should work
    2) does Sage plume shell block 85% of ALL damage or just Physical( description seems to be unclear). And also, does that extra 5% get taken from mana still?
    always p.def and yes - i guess

    3) Sage silent seal(+2 seconds) and chromatic seal (+ 4 seconds). Do these additions add a FULL + x secs. or does it add UP TO + x seconds?
    no way to check that, but prolly 'up to'
    4) Sage thunder ball adds 15% more damage. Does this 15% apply to the initial attack, just the DoT or both?
    no idea
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  • Astoru - Heavens Tear
    Astoru - Heavens Tear Posts: 822 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    ok so I got some questions

    1) does ToP work with Wings of Protection( the cleric skill, not the archer one)?
    Couldn't tell you for sure. You should have ToP anyways as a genie skill, so go ahead and test it yourself.
    2) does Sage plume shell block 85% of ALL damage or just Physical( description seems to be unclear). And also, does that extra 5% get taken from mana still?
    Only physical. All damage would make it uber OP. And that extra 5% does not get taken from MP.
    3) Sage silent seal(+2 seconds) and chromatic seal (+ 4 seconds). Do these additions add a FULL + x secs. or does it add UP TO + x seconds?
    It works the same as usual, just has a chance of being a lot longer. This is where demon shows its clear superiority over sage, having no negative effects from both of these stuns.
    4) Sage thunder ball adds 15% more damage. Does this 15% apply to the initial attack, just the DoT or both?
    Only initial, unfortunately.
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  • Magicgabe - Lost City
    Magicgabe - Lost City Posts: 225 Arc User
    edited April 2010

    It works the same as usual, just has a chance of being a lot longer. This is where demon shows its clear superiority over sage, having no negative effects from both of these stuns.

    um you do know that silent seal does not have a damage reduction in practice? I've tested this skill and found no reduction. in fact, I've used it when questing against melle mobs. And chromatic seal slow effect doesn't work in air, as I've found.
    and bro...fyi this isn't a story.

    All people are idiodic but some are more idiotic than others.
  • DeathBanana - Heavens Tear
    DeathBanana - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,674 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Silent Seal does have a damage reduction, it's just very short at low levels. All slow effects are nullified when flying.
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  • Magicgabe - Lost City
    Magicgabe - Lost City Posts: 225 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Silent Seal does have a damage reduction, it's just very short at low levels. All slow effects are nullified when flying.

    I have lvl10 silent seal, and the damage reduction doesn't occur, I have tested this with cyclone, plumeshot, and wield thunder. even if there actually is a small damage reduction, it is practically negligable especially with a glaive.
    and bro...fyi this isn't a story.

    All people are idiodic but some are more idiotic than others.
  • DeathBanana - Heavens Tear
    DeathBanana - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,674 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I have lvl10 silent seal, and the damage reduction doesn't occur, I have tested this with cyclone, plumeshot, and wield thunder. even if there actually is a small damage reduction, it is practically negligable especially with a glaive.

    I'm doing about 8k with the damage reduction and 8.6k without
    Going to run some numbers, never really noticed this and am overly curious
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  • Magicgabe - Lost City
    Magicgabe - Lost City Posts: 225 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I'm doing about 8k with the damage reduction and 8.6k without
    Going to run some numbers, never really noticed this and am overly curious

    that difference in damage is from weapon damage variation
    and bro...fyi this isn't a story.

    All people are idiodic but some are more idiotic than others.
  • DeathBanana - Heavens Tear
    DeathBanana - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,674 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    that difference in damage is from weapon damage variation

    <---5455-5523 buffed
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  • Magicgabe - Lost City
    Magicgabe - Lost City Posts: 225 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    <---5455-5523 buffed

    maybe the mob you attacked buffed itself.

    I only have a 1.0k differnece(WoT) in my attacks due to weapon variation and I have a 500k base mag attack differnece.
    and bro...fyi this isn't a story.

    All people are idiodic but some are more idiotic than others.
  • Paramedic - Dreamweaver
    Paramedic - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,801 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    it has lil dmg reduction

    like 7-8% mag attack

    eot
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  • DeathBanana - Heavens Tear
    DeathBanana - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,674 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Magic Attack: 5455-5523
    Magic Attack with Silent Seal's debuff: 4935-4997

    Now I'm interested...the mag debuff of Silent Seal is (slightly) weapon-bassed; 5455 - 4935 = 520 while 5523 - 4997 = 526
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  • Nieka - Harshlands
    Nieka - Harshlands Posts: 182 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I'm doing about 8k with the damage reduction and 8.6k without
    Going to run some numbers, never really noticed this and am overly curious

    i think pemon silent seal removes the damage reduction effect would have to read it again though
  • Magicgabe - Lost City
    Magicgabe - Lost City Posts: 225 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    i think pemon silent seal removes the damage reduction effect would have to read it again though


    I redid my experimentation, and I was wrong the debuff reduces BASE MAGIC damage by about 10%. All other skill and weapon damage is unaffected.

    What does this mean? This means that silent seal is good for pvp. I have between 5.2k-6.9 magic damage, so in in reality, the my magic damage output is hardly changed, if at all. In PvP this skill probably shines more.
    and bro...fyi this isn't a story.

    All people are idiodic but some are more idiotic than others.