List down nonsense prices set by PWI

oyamajio

I've been wondering-- has any PWI marketing team ever landed a foot on PWI to check gold prices? I list down a few examples. It was ridiculous to see charm packs sold at 15 gold when average gold price 400k per. Everyone is a lot better off with hp/mp food or even with Plat HP/MP charms sold by players. And now the socket stone pack is being sold at 4 gold?? I can save 7k/socket, using tokens.b:sad

RainbowVidel - Sanctuary

oyamajio wrote: »

List down nonsense prices set by PWI

All of them.

Calitae - Sanctuary

Rainbowvidel - Sanctuary wrote: »

All of them.

What she said ^

Theavenger - Sanctuary

<-- Agrees with all posts posted so far ^

_Faolan_ - Heavens Tear

I spent enough money on fashion toady to feed a starving child in a third world counrty for a month b:laugh. Lower the prices so I can spend just as much and get more for it. The idea that I should go out and working in the game to get items I want is just so un- american. I deserve to have everything handed to me. By the way whats up with rare drops? Why can't I just buy those too?ooo you could make a ton if you sold hair fashions of priceses crowns. Since all of us US girls are all princesses ( so not kidding, gold with rubies and silver with dimonds, only sell 10,000 and see how fast they go).

Thank you PW for giving us our fantasy and even putting up with us complaining about how unfair your free game is.

P. S I would like more goth and punk cloths. What would really be nice is the fashion you seen on the toons in the adds. Now that stuff I'd pay a pretty penny for.b:kiss

Ilwyn_ - Dreamweaver

Well, damn. I asked the same question a few months ago and got a bunch of, "OMG STOP QQING YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUY FROM THE CASH SHOP SO ****ING DEAL WITH IT!!! >:[" responses. Now we're actually being civil about the issue? I'm impressed?

But anyway. They'd make a hell of a lot more money if they'd just lower the prices. Lower the prices and let us choose what color of outfit we want. No one needs to spend six dollars on pixels. Because that's what it is - pixels. Even Sims clothing and other content is found free nearly everywhere. If clothes were no more than like 3 gold apiece, and shoes for maybe 1 gold. Mounts should NOT be 40 dollars. That's more than Gaia charges for anything. Seriously, nothing on this game should cost more than 15 bucks.

Brigid - Harshlands

Ilwyn_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Well, damn. I asked the same question a few months ago and got a bunch of, "OMG STOP QQING YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUY FROM THE CASH SHOP SO ****ING DEAL WITH IT!!! >:[" responses. Now we're actually being civil about the issue? I'm impressed?

But anyway. They'd make a hell of a lot more money if they'd just lower the prices. Lower the prices and let us choose what color of outfit we want. No one needs to spend six dollars on pixels. Because that's what it is - pixels. Even Sims clothing and other content is found free nearly everywhere. If clothes were no more than like 3 gold apiece, and shoes for maybe 1 gold. Mounts should NOT be 40 dollars. That's more than Gaia charges for anything. Seriously, nothing on this game should cost more than 15 bucks.

Are you familiar with the term "whatever the market will bear"?

Also, adjusting the prices of items in gold will likely just cause further inflation of the coin-to-gold ratio.

WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary

Ilwyn_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Mounts should NOT be 40 dollars. That's more than Gaia charges for anything. Seriously, nothing on this game should cost more than 15 bucks.

Mounts are 5 dollars.

Or do you mean the vanity mounts that people want because they are rare? You want those ones to be cheap too? Thus making them non-rare? Thus meaning people who want to pay extra for the rare stuff won't have the option to do so? Thus meaning PWI is throwing potential money out the window by offering less price-point selections?

PWI's marketing department may make some really questionable calls sometimes, but offering a wide selection of price ranges is a no-brainer.

MystiMonk - Sanctuary

I would say there isn't any and to the OP do you know how much costs goes into running PWE.It is company which is providing entertainment which cost a lot to run.There is the building lease agreement.insurance,medical and life insurance for staff,office equipment,payrole,utilities(keeping the servers going and this website) and other operational costs.

They only other way of obtaining revenue is by charging monthly fee,yearly or lifetime.There isn't any nonsense prices set by PWI.It is a business that is providing entertainment for you.It costs me over $20 including popcorn and soda to just see a movie this only me though.

Miugre - Heavens Tear

WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary wrote: »

Mounts are 5 dollars.

Or do you mean the vanity mounts that people want because they are rare? You want those ones to be cheap too? Thus making them non-rare? Thus meaning people who want to pay extra for the rare stuff won't have the option to do so? Thus meaning PWI is throwing potential money out the window by offering less price-point selections?

PWI's marketing department may make some really questionable calls sometimes, but offering a wide selection of price ranges is a no-brainer.

Granted, but try to phrase that argument without the "rare" part next time. Otherwise you sound like the people who bought hundreds of prepaid cards in order to win a Ninetails when they first came out and now are QQing because everyone can get one.

The price-range thing is sort of an argument. "Rare" is not.

MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote:

I would say there isn't any and to the OP do you know how much costs goes into running PWE.It is company which is providing entertainment which cost a lot to run.There is the building lease agreement.insurance,medical and life insurance for staff,office equipment,payrole,utilities(keeping the servers going and this website) and other operational costs.

They only other way of obtaining revenue is by charging monthly fee,yearly or lifetime.There isn't any nonsense prices set by PWI.It is a business that is providing entertainment for you.It costs me over $20 including popcorn and soda to just see a movie this only me though.

You, according to your join date, have been here for over a year now. You know what PWI was like before coin chests and Failure Packs(TM). Are you trying to tell me that PWI wasn't making money before those travesties came along?

Unless you're suggesting they needed failpacks to stay afloat... in which case, I'd like to see your evidence of that. Packs clearly increased profits, but until the PWE higher-ups level with us, I can only assume that they care for profits more than their players.

MystiMonk - Sanctuary

Miugre - Heavens Tear wrote: »

You, according to your join date, have been here for over a year now. You know what PWI was like before coin chests and Failure Packs(TM). Are you trying to tell me that PWI wasn't making money before those travesties came along?

Unless you're suggesting they needed failpacks to stay afloat... in which case, I'd like to see your evidence of that. Packs clearly increased profits, but until the PWE higher-ups level with us, I can only assume that they care for profits more than their players.

I am talking everything not just the packs that help keep PWI in business.Yes there was PWI before the packs don't forget about everything else

Miugre - Heavens Tear

MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote:

I am talking everything not just the packs that help keep PWI in business.Yes there was PWI before the packs don't forget about everything else

What I'm saying, though, is that PWI didn't need the ani packs to make profit. They could have operated just fine without wrecking the gold market. Your post seemed to suggest the opposite, in light of the fact that the OP was commenting on gold prices.

Incarnata - Harshlands wrote: »

I really did not follow your reasoning for how this was supposed to improve his presentation -- I mean I read your words, I just do not see how this is an improvement. But, you know, I was providing a free service and I am sure it was worth every penny you spent on it.

In that I spent a total of zero pennies on it? Sure, why not. XD (and yes, I'm aware that was sarcasm -_-)

I was just suggesting to Warren to try to avoid the word "rare" in arguments like that. He was trying to suggest that it was a good idea for PWI to keep the price variations in mounts, which is valid. But it was this line in particular that provoked my comment:

You want those ones to be cheap too? Thus making them non-rare?

...implying that getting rid of mount price variation would be bad not because it'd reduce PWE profits, but because certain mounts would become more easily accessible.

And that's always been a flawed argument to me. Accessibility is a near-universal good IMO. I find little to no value in the "I have it, you don't" school of thought.

In addition... to me, anyway... "rare" implies a sense of how many of a given item are in-game, not how much it costs. For instance, I would call Chubbs more "rare" than Ninetails (which is 4x the price of Chubbs), because far fewer people use Chubbs. Or to use an example that isn't based on CS items: an Oddfoot pet is "rarer" than a Glacial Walker pet. But in the context of Warren's argument, Ninetails is "rarer" than Chubbs. I disagree. :P

WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary

Miugre - Heavens Tear wrote: »

In addition... to me, anyway... "rare" implies a sense of how many of a given item are in-game, not how much it costs. For instance, I would call Chubbs more "rare" than Ninetails (which is 4x the price of Chubbs), because far fewer people use Chubbs. Or to use an example that isn't based on CS items: an Oddfoot pet is "rarer" than a Glacial Walker pet. But in the context of Warren's argument, Ninetails is "rarer" than Chubbs. I disagree. :P

Yeah, I understand what you're saying. Certainly some of the more expensive mounts are the most common ones. In fact, part of the reason I ride around on a plain old Panther is because it's actually less common than many of the more expensive ones. (The other part, BTW, is that it doesn't fill up my whole screen and obscure where I'm going...)

So you're basically correct that "rare" was the wrong word. But I'm not sure what other word to use. I just know that there's a sizable segment of the population that wants the pricey stuff specifically because it is pricey, and thus owning it makes them somehow feel more exclusive or special.

Miugre - Heavens Tear

WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary wrote:

Yeah, I understand what you're saying. Certainly some of the more expensive mounts are the most common ones. In fact, part of the reason I ride around on a plain old Panther is because it's actually less common than many of the more expensive ones. (The other part, BTW, is that it doesn't fill up my whole screen and obscure where I'm going...)

So you're basically correct that "rare" was the wrong word. But I'm not sure what other word to use. I just know that there's a sizable segment of the population that wants the pricey stuff specifically because it is pricey, and thus owning it makes them somehow feel more exclusive or special.

Yep, and that's just another example of shrewd marketing from PWE. That's a pretty harmless example, though (as compared to gamble packs).

Any person with a bit of common sense gets a mount based on how it suits their character, not on how much it costs. I ride a panther, too - in fact I double-spurred mine recently when my gf got a Ninetails (which suits her char perfectly). I like the simplicity of the panther as opposed to some of the larger, more complex, and ultimately uglier mounts like Hell Hound or Nein Beast (which the two of us refer to as the "flaming ****" :P).

Reivi - Sanctuary

MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »

I am talking everything not just the packs that help keep PWI in business.Yes there was PWI before the packs don't forget about everything else

I will completely disagree with you

Another company, with a name reminding an aircraft engine, just published (2 mounths ago) a complete report upon their chages on a game....

The game was an average P2P with a 12$ a mounth, they changed it to a F2P, with prices lower than what PWi does (some races, extensions , options are only available if buying them - abd you CANT buy them from other players)

They quintupled their player base and make 4 times the money they did with subscriptions.

Its been proven that F2P market is much more profitable than subscriptions "ElectroArtists" (name has been changed tyo protect the not so innocents) chose to go that way too .....



makes you wonder ......