Best PVE BM weapon?

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What is the best pve weapon when it comes to power, attack speed, aoes and other spells, survivability, fun and cost?
Also when looking for some guides on some of the weapons i couldn't find any, can you recommend any weapon guides also, thanks

Kristoph - Lost City

Power? Axe if AOE, Fist if 1v1
Attackspeed? Fist
Survivability? The one with the most vit or best gear...
Fun? using axe/fist/spear together
Cost? Fist

Kupuntu - Sanctuary

At lower levels I guess swords could be better than fists since fists really start to shine at 90+. Not sure really.

Thalos - Dreamweaver

I'm not really sure about until lvl 29 but that was when i switched to fists and never regret it. I don't need powders or heal pots, just some manapots to use sutra. Can't really tell if swords or axes are better though because I pretty much only use fists. Sure they don't shine as I don't even got -int gear yet and still questmobs are a walk in the park because i only need to cancel the first spell and they are dead before they can use the second one.

Raseth - Sanctuary

Sword doesn't out-pace fist without refines when -int is discounted. And still make less chi. The cheapness of fist legendary weapons from 60+ and access to -int is when fist takes the lead.

XxLady_XelxX - Dreamweaver

Kupuntu - Sanctuary wrote: »

At lower levels I guess swords could be better than fists since fists really start to shine at 90+. Not sure really.

Fists/claws rock the instant you find a decent pair for your level. Which is usually starting at around 30, when you gain access to Sting of Thorns (others may debate that statement...but imo Spikes is an awesome effect for the level you get it, and it procs reasonably often). The biggest issue is a lack of easy to acquire upgrades from 30-60, unless you put the work into attaining a Lotus Malevolence.

They have a lower overall damage per hit, but they gain Chi like no other weapon can, meaning you can spark/ult significantly more often. And the faster attack speed makes the occasional miss or two a non-issue when compared to something like Axes when going against a single target.

Joshcja - Sanctuary

a bm's main weapons will be fists and axes

pick up spear and sword skills as you like after you hit 8x aka "omg to much spirit land"

by lvl 89 there is no excuse to not have 4 skill trees maxed - the omg trash skills like vacatous palm

get DQ bracers and AOS at 60 = fists become intstarape

calams at 70 = random as hell 4k hits on other heavies with drake bash

so ya multipath from lvl 30 on and go rearange some mobs internal organs (<3 kidney hats)

and ya a +2-3 sting of thorns is amazing from lvls 30-53 try n get 2 sockets if ya can

Anxho - Harshlands

I am a pure sword user. I find it a very balanced weapon in PvE and PvP.

Kristoph - Lost City

Joshcja - Sanctuary wrote: »

pick up spear and sword skills as you like after you hit 8x aka "omg to much spirit land"

by lvl 89 there is no excuse to not have 4 skill trees maxed - the omg trash skills like vacatous palm

Lol there's no way you can even get close to maxing all the useful skills by 89... 1 sword, 3 spear, 4 axe and 1 fist skill plus 2-3 masteries along with 79 skills, aeolian, roar, aura, marrows, sutra, sprints, drake's ray tree and leaps? No.

Anxho - Harshlands wrote: »

I am a pure sword user. I find it a very balanced weapon in PvE and PvP.

You're also at a level which can be reached in half a week. Swords are terrible.

Joshcja - Sanctuary

Kristoph - Lost City wrote: »

Lol there's no way you can even get close to maxing all the useful skills by 89... 1 sword, 3 spear, 4 axe and 1 fist skill plus 2-3 masteries along with 79 skills, aeolian, roar, aura, marrows, sutra, sprints, drake's ray tree and leaps? No.

You're also at a level which can be reached in half a week. Swords are terrible.

swords are basicly good for MSS and hell atamos lol

max skills for my lvl with the exeption of the absolute ly useless ones like mage bane and stream strike

feed a geni or 2 and farm lvl 7x/8x bh a week or 2 its easly doable

or OMG GRIND bm's are a pricy class so its eaither CS your **** off or grind/tt your soul away

made almost 2.5 spirit in the last 3 days off like 2 hours of aoe grinding cheif sins and my bh chain

so ya not getting how thats so hardb:surrender

Kristoph - Lost City

Joshcja - Sanctuary wrote: »

swords are basicly good for MSS and hell atamos lol

max skills for my lvl with the exeption of the absolute ly useless ones like mage bane and stream strike

feed a geni or 2 and farm lvl 7x/8x bh a week or 2 its easly doable

or OMG GRIND bm's are a pricy class so its eaither CS your **** off or grind/tt your soul away

made almost 2.5 spirit in the last 3 days off like 2 hours of aoe grinding cheif sins and my bh chain

so ya not getting how thats so hardb:surrender

Because maxing 3 59 skills takes 9 mil spirit itself. Add 3 49 skills and 3 79 skills... and you're already pushing it, assuming you've maxed the basic ones.


3.8m (sword) + 7.1m (spear) + 7.9m (axe) + 3.1m (fist) + 3m (79 skills)


Almost 25m spirit needed. If we assume spirit is roughly 20% of normal exp... that's 125m exp, which would get a character from 70 to 92. Not gonna happen. Unless you decide you rather completely ignore demon skills?

AdvanceZero - Heavens Tear

Joshcja - Sanctuary wrote: »

swords are basicly good for MSS and hell atamos lol

max skills for my lvl with the exeption of the absolute ly useless ones like mage bane and stream strike

feed a geni or 2 and farm lvl 7x/8x bh a week or 2 its easly doable

or OMG GRIND bm's are a pricy class so its eaither CS your **** off or grind/tt your soul away

made almost 2.5 spirit in the last 3 days off like 2 hours of aoe grinding cheif sins and my bh chain

so ya not getting how thats so hardb:surrender

Dude some people want to progress in the game. You've been 7x for months.....most people will not have the patience to do that.

At my level I don't have every skill maxed. I just do the useful ones. Save spirit to make genies, save coin to buy gear.

Joshcja - Sanctuary

meh dont have to go crazy like i did

masteries are abour 1.2 mill spirit each

for fists mastery+heel

spear lvl 5 rush for gamma/delta farstrike and GS

axes are price all skills worth maxing

swords = MSS and atamos

and FCC exists i thinks >.<

also have been lvling for a while now....dam fourums hate my avatar though

AdvanceZero - Heavens Tear

Go to the edit your avatar switch off make a post somewhere switch back..that's how I fix mine.

Slivaf - Dreamweaver

Personally I feel, that axes, are hands done, the undisputed champion for what bm's should be using for the most part.

There aoe's kick-****, and in my honest opinion, they tend to have the most hp added on to there 'add-on effects.'

Not to mention that people are far more likely to like you/take you on the later/harder runs, if you have axes with maxed out aoes/heaven's flame. (Time the HF just right, and people will absolutely love you for it, at least from my experience.)

I did go sword build, first, and at mid-late 6x's early 7x's, I really started to realize how much I was getting my **** kicked, then I started to multi-path with axes, and now fists. Now my survivability is real high, and I am taken on a lot of runs, when I can be on. =x lol

Though it is true one on one fists are superior to axes, however, axes allow you to not only have aoes, but also in my opinion allow you to stand a MUCH better chance at beating other classes in a duel/pvp match. Axe's allow you to do the 'infamous' stun-lock combo that you may have read/heard about, and without it/or chi, you might as well bend over and kiss your butt good bye. =x

Thalos - Dreamweaver

Axes are pretty nice too, yes but I still think fists are superior when it comes to questing. I mean AOEing magical mobs as a BM is no fun at all and fists are best when going 1v1. I still have an Axe with me and keep HF lvled for BHs and stuff when you can use HF on cooldown at the bosses because you build enough chi with fists. Only downside is that I only have 3.2k HP right now so taking aggro from BH Boss=goodbye me. It's more then enough for quests though and I already got some nice refined 76-79 armor on my bank+working on getting TT 90 stuff with my alt.

Kristoph - Lost City

Slivaf - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Not to mention that people are far more likely to like you/take you on the later/harder runs, if you have axes with maxed out aoes/heaven's flame. (Time the HF just right, and people will absolutely love you for it, at least from my experience.)

Though it is true one on one fists are superior to axes, however, axes allow you to not only have aoes, but also in my opinion allow you to stand a MUCH better chance at beating other classes in a duel/pvp match. Axe's allow you to do the 'infamous' stun-lock combo that you may have read/heard about, and without it/or chi, you might as well bend over and kiss your butt good bye. =x

lol... no. My guild takes fist BMs over axe ones any day. Fist BMs can actually tank things and keep agro off of herc/DDs meaning they can replace barbs. And if not they're capable of dropping Heaven's Flame every 30 secs... which pure Axe BMs won't be able to.


And no, a pure Axe build doesn't allow you to stunlock better than a Fist/Axe build. Fist users can build chi faster in between stuns meaning they can keep it up for longer. They also do far more damage to single targets at the same time, once you get some interval.