Damage and HP question

kenthecleric

So, I'm a lvl 6x Cleric (started off FAC but started leaning towards support a little). I was reading through the forums and saw another 6x cleric doing 30k crit damage... but even when i crit with tempest, i only hit for 14-15k. I'm wondering why I'm only doing half damage?

my stats are : str - 37, vit - 25, dex - 5, mag - 294 (those are all with equipment bonuses)

base mag attack before buff is 3144 - 3589, and 3695 - 4218 with buff
tempest lvl 1 (been spending sp on buffs and heals lately).

Also, I've seen clerics with 4k+ hp that're lvl 8x... do 20 levels really add THAT much hp? or is it just +hp stats on armor?

my hp's only around 1500-1600

any advice on how to up my damage and/or hp without spending millions and millions of coin? i'm poor =P

Qlngfu - Archosaur

the 30k damage is most likely the result of amplifications such as debuffs and sparksb:surrender tempest is deals metal damage so thats x1.5 if its on a wood mob

your stats are fine, normally clerics add more vit at those lvls, i capped mine at 60 and ended up having 2.6k hp un-buffed with equipment and shard bonuses (lvl69)

i think clerics gain 20hp every lvl so thats 400 hp difference between lvl60 and 80
then there is the 6x/7X/8x mold armor wich most ppl use, adds 300 hp if i remember right. these gets refined +2-5 thats another 200-ish hp
then there is shards.. >_> flawless shards has become very favored sine the tokens arrived and gets used in 70/80 armor. normally 7x molds end up with 2-3 sockets and with flawless hp thats 40-120 hp for every equipment pieace, personally i would add hp to 3/4 my gear so thats ~320 hp

adding that up x_x
400+300+200+320 ~ 1.2k
1.2k + 2.6k (my hp)
~ 3.7k at lvl80 ~.^

would be easy for a vit cleric to get past 4k at lvl80. i would say they would need 4mill for sharding, refining and getting the gear if most of it didnt drop in their fb. i dont believe thats too hard to archive with a bit of aoe grind and vending, buy a few lvl50/60 mp pots and get to work. there is also a nice money making guidein the begginer section i believe.

nyway o.o ur doing good, might wanna forget everything about FAC ans FSC though..a cleric is a cleric nothing more >_> and lvl your purify for your fb/bh69s not always a easy job to find a 2nd clericb:surrender

Qlngfu - Archosaur

sorry if the text seems a bit confusing still new at these forums o.ob:surrender and feel free o look and corret my numbers >_< cant remember the gears stats from the top of my head ._.

kenthecleric

okay - yeah that makes sense. the only way i can really think to spark tempest (before 3rd spark) is with full vigor and cast something right before it (wellspring surge or something).. i guess the safe way to do that is put them to sleep first =P

thanks a lot! i kind of figured a lot of the hp would be from armor/shards, but wasn't sure how much of it should be just natural vit. it's good to know my cleric isn't fail yet (i don't think lol).

i've got purify level 4.. i'll probably level that to around 6 or 8 for now. i'm still trying to save up to lvl celestial guardian's seal (lvl 8 right now) and squad buff... 300k spirit aint easy to come by =/ .... yet ...

thanks again!

PS. what's an average damage for plume/cyclone for a lvl 7x? right now i'm doing around 4k =o

/Billion - Heavens Tear

Average hp for 70 clerics is about 2.5k-3.5k.
for level 80 3k-4k.

Currently im sitting at 3.7k hp but my armor is 3+ 3x flawless. Im a 8/1/1 build tho.

Average damage is hard to say. Your damage will vary alot depending on type of mob, mobs defense, buffs, amp buffs, etc.

My average damage in 70s was 5kish plume 6k cyclone.
In 80s its 6kish plume 7k+ cyclone (hitting wood mobs for 8k+)

I was using a tt70sword 5+ 1x flawless
and 80s is tt80 sword 4+ 2x flawless.

Maragon - Dreamweaver

like was said debuffs can play a HUGE roll in damage spikes. a few days ago i use 2 spark wield thunder in fb79 (forget which boss i'm thinkin Hooli but not sure) hit whoever it was for over 27k and didnt crit all because he was stacked with my debuffs, heavens flame, amp, and prolly some others.

as for hp. I am a pure build with 5 base vit. I carry 2 sets of ornaments (belt and neck) 1 for instances that have phys and HP and one for grinding (mag stats -chan etc) with the HP ones I have over 3100 hp. I am on a pve server so that lvl is just fine. I'm usin glaives of divinity +4 with a flawless so my mag atk stat is abt 5400-7400 and cyclone will spike on wood mobs up to about 8500 sometimes a bit more. Hopefully be able to find a cheap sensoid maybe. While the spike damage is nice i like something a bit more predictable and it has high damage anyway and will give me 215 hp (green one) on top of it.

/endramble

if your on a pvp server u will want a bit more vit. if your on a pve what you have is fine just grab a few shards and some mirage and refine a few times. its not really all that expensive anymore.

kenthecleric

ok, we'll see what happens i guess. i'm in Lost City server (pvp), so I might add some vit till it gets to 60 then continue with mag. hopefully that will give me some hp (and maybe a little pdef) for survivability... sick of getting 1-2 shotted by any physical class lol. plume shell helps, but it just delays the inevitable. my mp gets drained in a dozen or so hits, then i'm pretty much screwed... =P

thanks for the input all! i'll have to level up wield thunder a bit too... now the only question is, focus on wield thunder, or try to get celestial guardian's seal to 10 and get squad buff (its at lvl 8 right now.. so about 300k sp to max). wish me luck!

Astoru - Heavens Tear

Throw out the FAC/FSC concept. You're a cleric, and holding onto one of those mindsets will do you no good.

Plenty of better answers than what I'd have to offer in here already in the terms of HP.

MystiMonk - Sanctuary

It could be that you only have lvl 1 Tempest and what is your metal Mastery at.That other post could of had a higher lvl Tempest as well as Metal Mastery but you being former FAC would have lvled Metal Mastery.

Tojop - Dreamweaver

8x cleric with 4k hp is either stacked with vit, or more likely has TT 80 gold armors sharded/refined. At 77 or so I was 7-2-1 build, had just over 3k hp.

DeathBanana - Heavens Tear

Are we talking buffed or unbuffed? 4k is a bit crazy unbuffed.

Qlngfu - Archosaur

DeathBanana - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Are we talking buffed or unbuffed? 4k is a bit crazy unbuffed.

http://www.pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=7f963cf878eef0d0

dont think this would be too hard to accomplish since its good until 9x. too soaked in citrines for some but i personally love those >_>
but meeh..prolly better to spend the money on hypering through 8x, not sure what gear is a mininum required to farm the 90 equipment thoughb:surrender

DeathBanana - Heavens Tear

Qlngfu - Archosaur wrote: »

http://www.pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=7f963cf878eef0d0

dont think this would be too hard to accomplish since its good until 9x. too soaked in citrines for some but i personally love those >_>
but meeh..prolly better to spend the money on hypering through 8x, not sure what gear is a mininum required to farm the 90 equipment thoughb:surrender

/Billion - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Average hp for 70 clerics is about 2.5k-3.5k.
for level 80 3k-4k.