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Paimage - Harshlands
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I wanted to post this a long time ago but didnt feel like doing it, although this is the right time for this post. As we can see atm by looking at the map, there are 4 colours in it and in my honest opinion there might b only 3 colours in the end of the week (I seriously hope Im wrong cuz I like and admire Crimson as a guild) which is honestly bad for our TWs. Crimson after KY and KD is in my opinion the most organized big guild in the server, but what they lack is the power of KY, Zulu and KD to compete in TW map. Because of that, not every 80+ on server(which is a good lvl) can enjoy good TW and thats not cuz they dont want to, its cuz they cant compete against guilds full of lvl10x and 9x. With all of that said there is only one solution to that matter, that is a merge between the strongest guilds after KY, Zulu and KD.
As I see atm, even a merge between Evoke and Crimson would b enough to start taking lands of KD cuz I know how strong both guilds are, but if we added Takoda it would b even better.
Merges are never perfect especially when this 3 guilds (Takoda, Crimson and Evoke) pk each other and one of em is rpk while the other 2 arent. But would b nice if the leaders and members of this 3 guilds thought about that and talked about a possible merge into a new guild, new name, new life. Im sure most of the members of this guilds are tired of not competing shoulder to shoulder against the big 3 of the server, but a merge would take to this next level. Crimson once again in my opinion are very organized(not jus my opinion, for ppl who know how the guilds runs) and if they jus had lvls Im sure they would be even more threatening then KD, but even with that much organization and being in the map for a good while they still cant get as strong as the big 3 of the server cuz perhaps ppl dont feel alot of attraction to the guild. Lets look at how Zulu has grown, they had a core of high lvl players known by most players on the server that came from KD and thats the reason why they are as strong as they r now cuz alot of high lvls already know them and all, while for Crimson is different. Evoke also has good lvls but honestly there is lack of organization in TW, Takoda is decent and they are trying to rebuild but unfortunately I dont think they will b able to ever get to Crimson lvl.
I cant make the leaders of this 3 guilds talk to each other about a merge into a new guild with a name chosen by votes of each guild players, but I can open a thread in our server forum and see whats ppl opinion about this.
P.S. Good luck in TW crimson and I hope Im wrong xD
As I see atm, even a merge between Evoke and Crimson would b enough to start taking lands of KD cuz I know how strong both guilds are, but if we added Takoda it would b even better.
Merges are never perfect especially when this 3 guilds (Takoda, Crimson and Evoke) pk each other and one of em is rpk while the other 2 arent. But would b nice if the leaders and members of this 3 guilds thought about that and talked about a possible merge into a new guild, new name, new life. Im sure most of the members of this guilds are tired of not competing shoulder to shoulder against the big 3 of the server, but a merge would take to this next level. Crimson once again in my opinion are very organized(not jus my opinion, for ppl who know how the guilds runs) and if they jus had lvls Im sure they would be even more threatening then KD, but even with that much organization and being in the map for a good while they still cant get as strong as the big 3 of the server cuz perhaps ppl dont feel alot of attraction to the guild. Lets look at how Zulu has grown, they had a core of high lvl players known by most players on the server that came from KD and thats the reason why they are as strong as they r now cuz alot of high lvls already know them and all, while for Crimson is different. Evoke also has good lvls but honestly there is lack of organization in TW, Takoda is decent and they are trying to rebuild but unfortunately I dont think they will b able to ever get to Crimson lvl.
I cant make the leaders of this 3 guilds talk to each other about a merge into a new guild with a name chosen by votes of each guild players, but I can open a thread in our server forum and see whats ppl opinion about this.
P.S. Good luck in TW crimson and I hope Im wrong xD
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merges never end good..evoke and tatoda might end up doing it >_> but crimson been working very hard on making the faction feel more like a "family" than a tw bussiness..iam sure that if they have to decide between a spot on the map or the guild atmosphere they would chose the laterb:surrender0
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You can try but crimson and takoda just arent pvp guilds.*Faildom*
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What's sad is that you're trying to invent ways for more guilds to merge in order to fight KD. Stop being such a carebear and encourage guilds to merge in order to fight KY. I understand you dont actually want TW or any sort of fight, but blatantly begging other guilds to nut cup with you against us is just a bit much.
How about instead of praying for some easy land this week, God knows we wouldnt want to take you away from your closed instance leveling, asking for some good fights?0 -
HappysHAIL - Harshlands wrote: »What's sad is that you're trying to invent ways for more guilds to merge in order to fight KD. Stop being such a carebear and encourage guilds to merge in order to fight KY. I understand you dont actually want TW or any sort of fight, but blatantly begging other guilds to nut cup with you against us is just a bit much.
How about instead of praying for some easy land this week, God knows we wouldnt want to take you away from your closed instance leveling, asking for some good fights?
If Im a carebear u dont pvp at all, since this server opened Im sure I pvped more then 99% of the KD players. KD still has most of the lands and thats y I prefer to all guild atking em till they dont hav as many lands as they hav atm. Even with that, Takoda and Evoke r in KY side while Crimson is in good terms with us, so its only natural that a merge between them would make a guild that is against KD.0 -
Its blantaly obvious you missed the entire point of my post. Go read it again then come back and try again.0
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I've been a member of Crimson for some time now, and I would love to take Kylin down. Unfortunatley, we cannot at this point in time, we do not have enough experienced TW players. i don't know about a merge, we would certainly be alot stronger. It would cause alot of problems, there would be too many chiefs and not enough indians. I feel that we as a guild can me a top guild if we just get more experience.0
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HappysHAIL - Harshlands wrote: »Its blantaly obvious you missed the entire point of my post. Go read it again then come back and try again.
lol you are funny0 -
Fail response is fail. Im gonna go wait while you get some more to come and help you figure out what I said. Its obvious you cant get anything done without mass numbers anyway, so scamper along and let me know when you're ready to try again.0
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HappysHAIL - Harshlands wrote: »Fail response is fail. Im gonna go wait while you get some more to come and help you figure out what I said. Its obvious you cant get anything done without mass numbers anyway, so scamper along and let me know when you're ready to try again.
cool, Im gonna call my friends to figure out what you said for me.0 -
Qlngfu - Archosaur wrote: »merges never end good..evoke and tatoda might end up doing it >_> but crimson been working very hard on making the faction feel more like a "family" than a tw bussiness..iam sure that if they have to decide between a spot on the map or the guild atmosphere they would chose the laterb:surrender
Hm kinda agree with your post. A merge between Evoke and Takoda wouldnt be powerfull enough to compete agaisnt Kylin and Zulu who are at the moment the strongest factions on the server atm. Crimson is a "TW faction" but it is important for us to make sure that every member has a pleasant time while in the guild, so we dont give everything away for TW only.Taboo - Harshlands wrote: »Lets face it...there will never be 4 strong guilds on HL....it just cant happen. Crimson is not too concerned with TW. Ive talked to several of their members to see whats up with them and none of them seem to play for TW purposes. Evoke and Takoda together does not have the members or coordination to even bean KD right now in our shty state. Imo, what would be increadibly fun, but no one will ever agree to do it, would be to have somewhat of a TW guild draft ;p. Take people in Kingdom, Kylin, Zulu, Crimson, Takoda, and Evoke that really want to TW and seperate them into 3 guilds. 3 New guilds, because i know some people refuse to join KD, KY, zulu, whatever and all of them are a mix of members from different previous guilds. This would create more balance for fun competative TW, as well as letting people that want to TW, but are in a 2nd rate guild, compete in top end TW.
Like i said....no one will agree to this, so i guess we can expect more of the same until KD rebuilds or Kylin and Zulu get next to each other.
I couldnt agree more with your post, this draft ideia is fun and seriously the game is supposed to be fun otherwise its a waste of time. But your right, not many would agree to do that simply because many are not ready to give everything away just for the sake of the rest.HappysHAIL - Harshlands wrote: »What's sad is that you're trying to invent ways for more guilds to merge in order to fight KD. Stop being such a carebear and encourage guilds to merge in order to fight KY. I understand you dont actually want TW or any sort of fight, but blatantly begging other guilds to nut cup with you against us is just a bit much.
How about instead of praying for some easy land this week, God knows we wouldnt want to take you away from your closed instance leveling, asking for some good fights?
Paimage PvPs enough to be called a PvPer so calling him a carebear is proof enough that you dont leave safe zone much. You also failed to see the point of this thread which is in no way persuading (or w/e is spelled) other guilds to gank up KD, is simply asking for guilds to take an action and give more competetive TWs for the current top factions. Kingdom has the majority of the map so they will naturally be the main target. Kingdom has way too bad reputation, despite the efforts of the majority of its officers to change it, to get some decent factions to merge into them. The factions mentioned all have something agaisnt KD and the rest of the server factions are really non TW/PvP factors, so those factions wouldnt suddenly change from enemy to friend.(\__/)
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Kay, Paigrande is mah home dawg, so yeah he PvP's. 'Til the end of this game, he is still going to be better than you Hail. ;3
Secondly, Crimson problem was coordination, from day one. Coordination in a TW makes or breaks it, to be perfectly honest. My evidence is RQ vs BLT, I was level 70, along with 30 others (Half the TW) and we were fighting against high 80's and 90's, yet won. By no means is RQ the rule, but they did do some pretty spectacular things, PvP-wise.
Get coordination, gear up if it's needed and you'll do fine.0 -
Alright, glad to see Pai got on the batphone here to get some backup!
The whole cuddly, "omg hes mah bubby hes so big and better den u" argument is cute. Really, it is. It also made me vomit a little in my mouth when I read it.
You need to learn the difference between west gate and TW, apparently. Although, in recent experiences all either does is devolve into who can call the most people at the time to craddle their nuts and help carry them for a while.Paimage - Harshlands wrote: »As I see atm, even a merge between Evoke and Crimson would b enough to start taking lands of KD cuz I know how strong both guilds are, but if we added Takoda it would b even better.HappysHAIL - Harshlands wrote: »What's sad is that you're trying to invent ways for more guilds to merge in order to fight KD. Stop being such a carebear and encourage guilds to merge in order to fight KY. I understand you dont actually want TW or any sort of fight, but blatantly begging other guilds to nut cup with you against us is just a bit much.
How about instead of praying for some easy land this week, God knows we wouldnt want to take you away from your closed instance leveling, asking for some good fights?0 -
HappysHAIL - Harshlands wrote: »Alright, glad to see Pai got on the batphone here to get some backup!
The whole cuddly, "omg hes mah bubby hes so big and better den u" argument is cute. Really, it is. It also made me vomit a little in my mouth when I read it.
You need to learn the difference between west gate and TW, apparently. Although, in recent experiences all either does is devolve into who can call the most people at the time to craddle their nuts and help carry them for a while.
Hmm are you Brendle? omg I cant believe it XD(\__/)
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HappysHAIL - Harshlands wrote: »Alright, glad to see Pai got on the batphone here to get some backup!
The whole cuddly, "omg hes mah bubby hes so big and better den u" argument is cute. Really, it is. It also made me vomit a little in my mouth when I read it.
You need to learn the difference between west gate and TW, apparently. Although, in recent experiences all either does is devolve into who can call the most people at the time to craddle their nuts and help carry them for a while.
lol you are funny0 -
Him being 'mah home dawg' and him being 'better than you' are two separate thoughts, note the period between them.
Lol @ 'Are you Brendle'. Brendle was a dip**** in the exact same way. ;D0 -
HappysHAIL - Harshlands wrote: »Alright, glad to see Pai got on the batphone here to get some backup!
The whole cuddly, "omg hes mah bubby hes so big and better den u" argument is cute. Really, it is. It also made me vomit a little in my mouth when I read it.
You need to learn the difference between west gate and TW, apparently. Although, in recent experiences all either does is devolve into who can call the most people at the time to craddle their nuts and help carry them for a while.
lol thats funny
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Paimage - Harshlands wrote: »lol thats funny
pai does pvp a lot Happy, if u want to admit it or not. Happy on the other hand, the first time ive seen you pvping is yesterday. well it was a nice try, but you have lots to learn, 1# thing is don't try to perditition the barbs, they are heavy armor and perdition is phy dmg, perdition the mages lol
I was laughing every time i saw u 3 barbs holy path to IceBlindWolf and perdition him, and after he survives you all seeing all the mages and archers finish u guys off, If you guys just all perditioned the squishys with the best weapons you would have been much better off. Lol, idk why you thought it was best to go after other barb first.
And pai is fast on the trigger, he saved me from a perdition :O i tried to sleep the barb but he had anti stun on
lol, but it was funny seeing that barb run around for 10 secs not being able to do anything (2 fows), and at the end of that time dieing Our GMs, which art invisible,
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Perditioning other barbs makes the game more fun.0
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I've noticed a few things about that screen shot.
#1 - Why the hell do you have that many copies of the same skills on your skill bars?
#2 - 5k hp buffed at 99, lol
And I'm just making guesses from your wonderful story telling, since I wasn't there, but it sounds like 3 95+ archers, 2 99 mages, a 90+ BM, 90+ Barb are bragging about killing 3 barbs?
And also, he doesn't sound anything like Brendle. A Brendle conversation would have been more like
"The GMs must have helped you, no mere mortal could defeat Lord Brendle. I am the god of all that is PW. You are lucky I even let you cast that Ice Dragon."
And back on topic. A merging of those guilds would do nothing. Crimson is a collection of all the crappiest players on the server that don't speak english or have egos, and Evoke is a collection of all the crappiest players on the server that love to **** talk and have huge egos. And Takoda well...not mentioning them seems fair.0 -
Congrats on your first ever crit on a HA user as a mage. Im assuming its your first since you have such a chubby over it; or, maybe killing me is just so thrilling for you. Now that I think about it, Ill just go with the latter.
Secondly, there are six people in your squad alone with several others who were there as well. Opposingly, there was me and Endless. I dont even know what third barb you're talking about. We were having fun running out and perditioning you to death as you stood around in a clump like a bunch of idiots. Perditioning off the barb who has more HA and resist makes sense as opposed to a mage or archer who falls over after one shot and you little kiddies who did manage to survive scurry away like little cockroaches.
Thanks for supporting my pervious point though. What you cant compensate for in skill, there's always numbers. Its sad you feel so accomplished over killing someone with over four times their number. I still had fun watching several of you fall over every time we came out.0 -
Tryagain - Harshlands wrote: »And back on topic. A merging of those guilds would do nothing. Crimson is a collection of all the crappiest players on the server that don't speak english or have egos, and Evoke is a collection of all the crappiest players on the server that love to **** talk and have huge egos. And Takoda well...not mentioning them seems fair.
I iz bad plaier end dhot spik englich, but yu iz stupid end only spik englich(\__/)
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Tryagain - Harshlands wrote: »I've noticed a few things about that screen shot.
#1 - Why the hell do you have that many copies of the same skills on your skill bars?
#2 - 5k hp buffed at 99, lol
And I'm just making guesses from your wonderful story telling, since I wasn't there, but it sounds like 3 95+ archers, 2 99 mages, a 90+ BM, 90+ Barb are bragging about killing 3 barbs?
And also, he doesn't sound anything like Brendle. A Brendle conversation would have been more like
"The GMs must have helped you, no mere mortal could defeat Lord Brendle. I am the god of all that is PW. You are lucky I even let you cast that Ice Dragon."
And back on topic. A merging of those guilds would do nothing. Crimson is a collection of all the crappiest players on the server that don't speak english or have egos, and Evoke is a collection of all the crappiest players on the server that love to **** talk and have huge egos. And Takoda well...not mentioning them seems fair.
My skill bars r jus fine, I can play good like that. My gear is crappy atm and I dont even hav any piece of TT99 apart from my heaven ravager which is only +5, still enough to one shot KD ppl. And there is no1 bragging about anything, its obvious that they were outnumbered but that only happened when we were outnumbered first, we called ppl and rolled all the KD out of the safe zone with none of us dying in the process, after that all KD ppl left without even calling more ppl to pk.
Back on topic aswell lol a merging between those guilds would definitely b enough to take lands from KD :P0 -
HappysHAIL - Harshlands wrote: »Congrats on your first ever crit on a HA user as a mage. Im assuming its your first since you have such a chubby over it; or, maybe killing me is just so thrilling for you. Now that I think about it, Ill just go with the latter.
Secondly, there are six people in your squad alone with several others who were there as well. Opposingly, there was me and Endless. I dont even know what third barb you're talking about. We were having fun running out and perditioning you to death as you stood around in a clump like a bunch of idiots. Perditioning off the barb who has more HA and resist makes sense as opposed to a mage or archer who falls over after one shot and you little kiddies who did manage to survive scurry away like little cockroaches.
Thanks for supporting my pervious point though. What you cant compensate for in skill, there's always numbers. Its sad you feel so accomplished over killing someone with over four times their number. I still had fun watching several of you fall over every time we came out.
We r not the idiots that were perditioning other barbs, so the idiot here is you. You say killing u is thrilling for me but u r pretty wrong about that, I simply loved the dmg I did to u with a +5 weapon; Now u say u were going out there and perditioning cuz we were all in the same place but how come u didnt even touch me? Every single time u went out of safe zone u died, even with imune pots.
Now you want to talk about skill? lol a barb that aims for other barb in pvp wants to talk about skill, awesome! If endless wasnt there I bet u wouldnt even hav the balls to step a foot outside the safe zone, but I dont remember any1 from your guild beating KY in group pvp with same numbers while KY has done it several times and not jus against KD.0 -
Taboo - Harshlands wrote: »Lets face it...there will never be 4 strong guilds on HL....it just cant happen.Taboo - Harshlands wrote: »there will never be 4 strong guilds on HLTaboo - Harshlands wrote: »never be 4 strong guildsTaboo - Harshlands wrote: »never 4
QFT. We tried this on LC, didn't end up going anywhere really. Just makes the strongest faction stronger and dissipate the weaker factions as people start hopping around wanting to join the "new kid" on the block.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Tryagain - Harshlands wrote: »And back on topic. A merging of those guilds would do nothing. Crimson is a collection of all the crappiest players on the server that don't speak english or have egos, and Evoke is a collection of all the crappiest players on the server that love to **** talk and have huge egos. And Takoda well...not mentioning them seems fair.
Kingdom god factor, I can see it coming... I cant even find the words to describe you right now.0 -
HappysHAIL - Harshlands wrote: »What's sad is that you're trying to invent ways for more guilds to merge in order to fight KD. Stop being such a carebear and encourage guilds to merge in order to fight KY. I understand you dont actually want TW or any sort of fight, but blatantly begging other guilds to nut cup with you against us is just a bit much.
How about instead of praying for some easy land this week, God knows we wouldnt want to take you away from your closed instance leveling, asking for some good fights?
Lol. You of all ppl have no room to talk about closed instance lvling, my dear.
And KD was in the same position as what KY is in now not too long ago and got accused of the same exact sht as all of the above.
What my wonderful hubby means is how nice it would be to have another large TW-oriented guild on HL to go up against the likes of ALL current land-holders, including KY.0 -
Paimage - Harshlands wrote: »We r not the idiots that were perditioning other barbs, so the idiot here is you. You say killing u is thrilling for me but u r pretty wrong about that, I simply loved the dmg I did to u with a +5 weapon; Now u say u were going out there and perditioning cuz we were all in the same place but how come u didnt even touch me? Every single time u went out of safe zone u died, even with imune pots.
Now you want to talk about skill? lol a barb that aims for other barb in pvp wants to talk about skill, awesome! If endless wasnt there I bet u wouldnt even hav the balls to step a foot outside the safe zone, but I dont remember any1 from your guild beating KY in group pvp with same numbers while KY has done it several times and not jus against KD.
Congrats again on killing an uncharmed barb with 8+ people. You're real pro. Im not sure how repeating it over and over makes you any less pathetic. But if thats what it takes to make you feel good about yourself, go right ahead. Big accomplishment.
Your idea of "having balls" is laughable at best. I bet you think slamming your head into a brick wall is great fun too. Explains quite a bit, actually.0 -
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I think Happy wants to QQ a lil bit more imo tbh ijs really.(\__/)
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