[Near] End-game weapon
Cupcake - Raging Tide
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My overall question is which weapon is considered to generally be the best weapon for an end-game (or nearing it, as I'm sure some crazy Nirvana weap is the best) veno?
About my character/play-style to take into consideration:
I am currently arcane, almost full magic as that allowed me to solo TTs quickly and with ease. I would like to switch to HA/AA (half and half) very soon, which I know will gimp my damage output but will increase my survivability. I TW and plan to start PKing more. I have a herc with bless and just about have my nix. Not including my weapon (as that's the thing in question atm), I have up to -18% channeling gear that I can switch out should I feel the need. Even after I switch to HA, I want to still be able to tank/solo TTs.
So, as I asked already, which weapon should I be aiming for? At the moment, I have the tt90 Wraith Conquerer. The varying ranges of the 4 diff. magic weapons, +critical attack, +vit, +mag, -channeling, +magic attack.... b:sweat
And, if your answer is the tt100 Sinrabansho, can you also give a step down from that, please? Which weapon would you use before you get all 4 tt90 souledges + gold mat?
Thank you!
About my character/play-style to take into consideration:
I am currently arcane, almost full magic as that allowed me to solo TTs quickly and with ease. I would like to switch to HA/AA (half and half) very soon, which I know will gimp my damage output but will increase my survivability. I TW and plan to start PKing more. I have a herc with bless and just about have my nix. Not including my weapon (as that's the thing in question atm), I have up to -18% channeling gear that I can switch out should I feel the need. Even after I switch to HA, I want to still be able to tank/solo TTs.
So, as I asked already, which weapon should I be aiming for? At the moment, I have the tt90 Wraith Conquerer. The varying ranges of the 4 diff. magic weapons, +critical attack, +vit, +mag, -channeling, +magic attack.... b:sweat
And, if your answer is the tt100 Sinrabansho, can you also give a step down from that, please? Which weapon would you use before you get all 4 tt90 souledges + gold mat?
Thank you!
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Cupcake - Raging Tide wrote: »My overall question is which weapon is considered to generally be the best weapon for an end-game (or nearing it, as I'm sure some crazy Nirvana weap is the best) veno?
About my character/play-style to take into consideration:
I am currently arcane, almost full magic as that allowed me to solo TTs quickly and with ease. I would like to switch to HA/AA (half and half) very soon, which I know will gimp my damage output but will increase my survivability. I TW and plan to start PKing more. I have a herc with bless and just about have my nix. Not including my weapon (as that's the thing in question atm), I have up to -18% channeling gear that I can switch out should I feel the need. Even after I switch to HA, I want to still be able to tank/solo TTs.
So, as I asked already, which weapon should I be aiming for? At the moment, I have the tt90 Wraith Conquerer. The varying ranges of the 4 diff. magic weapons, +critical attack, +vit, +mag, -channeling, +magic attack.... b:sweat
And, if your answer is the tt100 Sinrabansho, can you also give a step down from that, please? Which weapon would you use before you get all 4 tt90 souledges + gold mat?
Thank you!
If you plan on the tt100, than just use any of the tt99 green swords, since you will need to make them anyway.
If not, you could use the t99 gold gaive, lunar wand (for the chan bonus) or lunar pataka (if you dont mind HUGE damage ranges).
Personaly, I am leaning towars using Lunar wand for most stuff, tt99 gold gaive for pvp and the tt99 gold pataka for when I need more pdef/hp (since I am arcane).Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
lets be honest, if you have 3 99 gold weaps you are obviously not refining them the way you should be and ergo you are mildly special.
hh99 gold sword is pretty dang solid. great matk and your hp goes up a bit.
hh99 gold glaive if you are a channeling kinda person.
if you can get a cv wand it can be close to those two weaps as well.The Swarm is imminent...0 -
The lunar wand is superior to any TT99 weapon, both in damage and stats. Also it doesn't bind so you can sell it later.
At higher refines (+7/+8) the lunar wand will do more DPS then any TT99 magic weapon; at +12 it outdamages the TT100 sword.
Only downside is that you probably won't be able to add a second socket to it since it needs 8k socket stones.
As for final endgame weapon, it really depends how much you want to spend. Personally, with nirvana weapons out, I don't see much point in getting TT100.
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Well, warsoul ofc is the best end-game wep of the whole game.
Lunar being second in line.
TT third.
Quest weps fourth.
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LifeHunting - Heavens Tear wrote: »Well, warsoul ofc is the best end-game wep of the whole game.
Lunar being second in line.
TT third.
Quest weps fourth.
and so on....
If you dont know anything, dont bother to comment >.>
HH100 -> Lunar
Nirvana -> Lunar
Messenger npc weap -> Lunar
Oh and btw; self crafted 3* and 3* weaps from bosses -> Quest weaps ._.
But yeah other than that your best off getting the hh99 gold glaive, since lunar cost like 4 times as much and is only slightly better.*Faildom*
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Hhlolz - Harshlands wrote: »If you dont know anything, dont bother to comment >.>
HH100 -> Lunar
Nirvana -> Lunar
Messenger npc weap -> Lunar
Oh and btw; self crafted 3* and 3* weaps from bosses -> Quest weaps ._.
But yeah other than that your best off getting the hh99 gold glaive, since lunar cost like 4 times as much and is only slightly better.
You should follow your own recommendation.....
Read some of the previous posts about the damage of the Neon Purgatory....
Also, can you show the math that shows a TT99 glaive costs 4 times less than 60-65mil (the costs of a lunar gold weapon)? That would put the TT99 glaive at 15million
Empire Sighs 8mil each x 2 = 16 mil
low ball the other mats x 20 = 5mil
Level 90 Glaive = 10mil (to make, has to be decom to make the 99s)
level 80 Glaive = 5mil (to make, has to be decom to make 90s)
That puts it at 36mil, with very conservative prices. That is not quite 4 times less.
Is it cheaper to make tt99 Glaive than to make/buy a gold lunar weapon? You bet. Is it 4 times cheaper? No.Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
I have seen a ready made lunar wand go for 38m in a catshop on sanc.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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that if you buy the mats but so far i havent spent a coin buying TT mats, all is easy farmable with your guild
and btw empire gold mat is like 5mil on the lowest population server, might be cheaper on something like LC
Level 90 Glaive, level 80 Glaive... all easy farmable solo in a single day by venos
if you wnt crit id rather craft heaven rage or w/e is that tt99 gold since gold mat is 1mil each and rest is pretty easy to farm and like 100kish anyway if you are lazy, if you want chan and a bit of stats then go glaive
lunar wand is ok but nobody is selling cheap and you wouldnt refine it for more than +4 or +5 anyway if you want to re-sell it
twilight scepter was sold in our AH for like 28mil, id rather buy that and farm the rest to make TT100 than buying lunar wand for alot more0 -
Twilight scepter for 28m?
Now thats a good deal.
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well a bit more than 28mTwilight scepter for 28m?
Now thats a good deal.
Makes me cringe that a few months ago people payed 300m for it.
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5931/scepter.jpg
but now many ppl get gold mats in TT, even myself i've got like 3 yesterday from other TT's so probably thats why is cheaper
another reason might be... ppl rather go from TT99->nirvana now i think they just skip tt100 since it has random stats as nirvana0 -
That guy lost a lot of money. Probably had no idea what it was worth.
Cheapest I've seen was 75m. And it still got bought.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
on Heaven's Tear in AH if you're patient enough, Empire's Sigh can be picked up for 4.2 - 4.8 mil.
I have a lunar (random stat) lvl 100 weapon waiting for me as well, but considering the 3 random stats I got it's gonna be my fox form weapon...which works out perfectly
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actually he treid to sell it before and not only him. golden mask is abot the same in AH (tho not many use those weapons) and about heart of nature, idk yet. "poor" players farm lunar and nirvana now, idk how many will go for tt100 which is stil easy to farm it with the amount of lvl 100 players aroundThat guy lost a lot of money. Probably had no idea what it was worth.
Cheapest I've seen was 75m. And it still got bought.0 -
It's really personal preference, and shouldn't necessarily be limited to a single weapon. I currently use 2 weapons, 3 capes, 3 shirts, 2 belts, 2 necklaces, 4 rings, and 2 tomes.Be kind: Help the GMs to depopulate the servers.0
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Farming TT100 might be easy but it will take quite a while.
According to pwd, the chance of getting a twilight scepter is 0.1% on a normal day.
Golden mask should be a lot cheaper because it costs a lot less best luck tokens.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
a neon purgatory with nirvana upgrade must be good for pet healing. not the ideal weapon for fox form though.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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At higher refines (+7/+8) the lunar wand will do more DPS then any TT99 magic weapon; at +12 it outdamages the TT100 sword.
Only downside is that you probably won't be able to add a second socket to it since it needs 8k socket stones.
Kinda funny how you put a 8k socket stone as an investment as a downside and the 10,140 dragon orbs to +12 the Lunar Wand just to outdamage the TT100 as a pro.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Kinda funny how you put a 8k socket stone as an investment as a downside and the 10,140 dragon orbs to +12 the Lunar Wand just to outdamage the TT100 as a pro.
Because he is comparing the Neon +12 to a TT100 +12 as well, so both will use the same amount of D orbs.Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
I think the point he's trying to make is that a Lunar Wand with enough investment, will be stronger than the TT100. I mean, alone it's not a bad argument but at the same time, he's saying that 8k socket stones for a 2nd stocket is a con. If the player is able to invest for a full +12 refinement, I don't see the 8k socket stones as a real obstacle in relativity to the refinement.
Personally, my build doesn't grant me a lot of free vit so I chose Wraith Conqueror -> Broken Dream as my near end-game weapon, due to the HP/Vit nature of Broken Dream plus the benefit of that 6% channeling.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
I think the point he's trying to make is that a Lunar Wand with enough investment, will be stronger than the TT100. I mean, alone it's not a bad argument but at the same time, he's saying that 8k socket stones for a 2nd stocket is a con. If the player is able to invest for a full +12 refinement, I don't see the 8k socket stones as a real obstacle in relativity to the refinement.
Actually it was just to show how powerful the NP's refines are. The main point was not to compare it to TT100, but vs TT99. If it can get higher base damage then TT100 at high enough refines, then think of the damage difference it can have over TT99.
Furthermore, there is no point in making a lunar wand +12. While its base damage will be greater, it will still be inferior to the TT100 (which has more crit, 2 sockets 100% chance).
Neither are really that good as final endgame weapons, since nirvana is available. Unless you're a serious cashshopper, you wouldn't want to +12 either weapon - save it for your nirvana gear.
I stated that the 8k stone is the only downside because once again, I was comparing it to TT99 - which is much more easier to socket. If you are looking for a lot of -chan, then getting a TT99 glaive with 2 savant stones (-12% chan) is a lot easier then a NP with same sharding.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Personally, my build doesn't grant me a lot of free vit so I chose Wraith Conqueror -> Broken Dream as my near end-game weapon, due to the HP/Vit nature of Broken Dream plus the benefit of that 6% channeling.
You probably couldve gone with Fate-Denial Godspeed. It's got 16-17 vit along with 16-17 magic and -6% channeling for more attack power. But then again you might not like glaives...>.<0 -
Whoops. Forgot to read the part about vs TT99.
Yea, the glaive looks ugly.
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Whoops. Forgot to read the part about vs TT99.
Yea, the glaive looks ugly.
And I think Broken gives more HP than Godspeed?
Yea, broken does give more HP than Godspeed, but Godspeed still has better attack power. Btw, i like the way godspeed looks. But, you said your build doesnt leave much room for vit. besides LA or HA/AA build I cant think of a reason why you wouldnt have that much vit.>.<0 -
Yea, that's true but my priorities at this point isn't attacking, mostly just survival I guess. It's just that I find the bonus HP to be more of an asset to me than the better attack power.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Yea, that's true but my priorities at this point isn't attacking, mostly just survival I guess. It's just that I find the bonus HP to be more of an asset to me than the better attack power.
same here I'm looking more towards survivability though, but I do like the attack power. I'm actually thinking about getting 2 weps. (one for casting and one for fox form) along with being able to switch out ortaments at free will, that way i can get -30% channeling in heavy armor. (would need to get a lvl 5 tome though) Any idea how much those are? 25-50m?>.<0 -
For PvE, Survivability is rarely needed, and costly if you count on your only weapon for it. +10 vit stones run under 20m a piece on HT and can be imbued in 6 of your equips. There isn't so much opportunity to increase matk. Why give up the extra killing power for something you only need less than 1% of the time? I have for those occasions an Enchanter's Pataka I crafted with Reduce Physical Damage Taken +2%, Strength +6, HP+145. I may sell it when I get the Beamhoof Slicer but I plan on having at least 2 weapon choices.Be kind: Help the GMs to depopulate the servers.0
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For PvE, Survivability is rarely needed, and costly if you count on your only weapon for it. +10 vit stones run under 20m a piece on HT and can be imbued in 6 of your equips. There isn't so much opportunity to increase matk. Why give up the extra killing power for something you only need less than 1% of the time? I have for those occasions an Enchanter's Pataka I crafted with Reduce Physical Damage Taken +2%, Strength +6, HP+145. I may sell it when I get the Beamhoof Slicer but I plan on having at least 2 weapon choices.
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Level 5 tomes average around 50mil in HT. I'll assume the prices are in relatively the same range in Sanctuary.
I'm not sure, PvE survivability plays a pretty good part in running through abas, SoTs, and 3-3 BHes since those aoes do hurt unless you don some HA. I see what you mean by the limited availability to improve magic attack as opposed to the options to improve def/mag def/HP, but I think at the near-endgame point and given that the thread creator Veno is planning to use an HA/AA build, I think that build alone shows what the player prefers in terms of offense versus defense.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Just wanted to say thank you to everyone who responded. Your input and opinions are appreciated!
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im a HA veno for a while now and i know its great for pvp this is my plan for 95+ maybe you should reconcidure it http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=5b188a6d06f8da5b that weapon is just perfect for HA it has massive att[SIGPIC]sometimes love hurts and baby i love you A LOT[/SIGPIC]0
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