TT99 or Lunar Nirvana pants?

Drunken_Chu - Dreamweaver
Drunken_Chu - Dreamweaver Posts: 257 Arc User
edited April 2010 in Blademaster
I was just looking at these, and was wondering which one you guys think would be better to choose. I'm leaning towards the lunar one, just because the stats are much more certain. I can imagine how painful it would be trying to get perfect TT99 ones.

Lunar
http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/25686

TT99
http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/25704
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  • Telarith - Sanctuary
    Telarith - Sanctuary Posts: 1,417 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Lunar not only gives extra health over TT, but you're already losing defense by upgrading your TT99 to G15 version if choosing that route for sharding and refining purposes. The chance of perfect stats isn't why I chose them, but because lunar will have more defense to counter the losses experienced on 3 different TT99 pieces. And by getting the helm as lunar as well as the leggings fully upgraded to the nirvana versions, you can get the 2 piece set bonus of +5 ATK lvl added in. Seemed the best over-all route to go.
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  • memq
    memq Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    nirvana legs / helmet
    heavy boots and amulet
    light armor and wrists
    so u got all three bonuses
  • Asperitas - Lost City
    Asperitas - Lost City Posts: 907 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I'm just wondering what you mean by "perfect options".

    If by perfect options you mean the 3 you need, then I think we're in luck. If I'm not mistaken, you get all of them. From the nirvana pants I've seen on Lost City, they come with all 5 options.
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  • Drunken_Chu - Dreamweaver
    Drunken_Chu - Dreamweaver Posts: 257 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Well I was thinking that the 4% defense on TT nirvana would actually be greater than the extra def on the pants, but I never new the lunar pants refined for more, and I never thought about combining it with the helmet for the 5 attack level. So Lunar pants it is.

    And memq I would rather go HA boots+belt, and use a cube amulet. I don't know what belt you plan on using, but I doubt its greater than 5% hp.
  • memq
    memq Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Well, i have chosen light chest and heavy boots, due to 18 more stat points, lion heart adorn and legs and light wrists.
    There was little misunderstood, i wasn't saying anything about neck, but adorn, adorn doesnt give 5% hp :)
  • Gilforin - Lost City
    Gilforin - Lost City Posts: 108 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    HH99 are better are better 4% more element and phyu def is better in 10 k def is

    400 point of def


    beats the 200 points of better stats of the lunar

    youll realy see in in elemt def
    i WENT TO TIJUANA, HAD A FEW DRINKS AND THE NEXT DAY MY BOLIS WAS BURNING WAAAb:cry
  • Motoko - Raging Tide
    Motoko - Raging Tide Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I would rather spend the 75m that cube neck costs on refines/shards.

    Use 4th map belt for its huge boost to both defenses, which makes it great for demon magic marrow... and its free. Ashura boots/wrist, Lionheart chest/neck, Nirvana TT pants.... then just add Nirvana TT helm later if you can farm another 250 crystals.
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  • Drunken_Chu - Dreamweaver
    Drunken_Chu - Dreamweaver Posts: 257 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Just had a conversation with Ajay, we're both convinced that the massive hp bonus you get from forest's wisdom is actually better than a bonus from nirvana helmet.
  • Telarith - Sanctuary
    Telarith - Sanctuary Posts: 1,417 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Gilforin - Lost City wrote: »
    HH99 are better are better 4% more element and phyu def is better in 10 k def is

    400 point of def


    beats the 200 points of better stats of the lunar

    youll realy see in in elemt def

    Have you seen them actually do that, or is this a guess? Because old data suggests those 4% boosts are there for preventing debuffs jacking you. As in Undine Strike would do -60%, but the individual piece bonuses would reduce that debuff to help survive during it. But without the debuff, it was said to do nothing. Which honestly makes more sense, because otherwise lunar would have no benefit whatsoever.
    Drunken_Chu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Just had a conversation with Ajay, we're both convinced that the massive hp bonus you get from forest's wisdom is actually better than a bonus from nirvana helmet.

    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/15169

    In the hopes they may someday give us some kind of kill everyone event and leave it there....someday.
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  • TheDan - Sanctuary
    TheDan - Sanctuary Posts: 3,495 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Is this the PK Match Championship Arena thinger? I've always wondered if PWE was gonna implement it anytime soon, cause it looks fun.

    http://zoome.jp/gattun/diary/51/

    edit: I just learned how to do the cyclone heel trick from watching carefully, rofl.
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  • oyamajio
    oyamajio Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    TheDan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Is this the PK Match Championship Arena thinger? I've always wondered if PWE was gonna implement it anytime soon, cause it looks fun.

    http://zoome.jp/gattun/diary/51/

    edit: I just learned how to do the cyclone heel trick from watching carefully, rofl.

    LOL that's what it means to be a BM. We own everyone at close range. Even a barb must run for his life no matter what hp he has.b:laugh
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    oyamajio wrote: »
    Even a barb must run for his life no matter what hp he has.b:laugh

    Guess you haven't met too many 25-30k barbs yet. lol
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  • oyamajio
    oyamajio Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Guess you haven't met too many 25-30k barbs yet. lol

    Never seen a BM beating a barb with that much hp yet. I know it's tough to beat that much hp, but considering how much a charm tick cost him, he'd better run at least for $, if not his life, LOL. I'm still working on my interval gears and TT100 fist.
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    oyamajio wrote: »
    Never seen a BM beating a barb with that much hp yet. I know it's tough to beat that much hp, but considering how much a charm tick cost him, he'd better run at least for $, if not his life, LOL. I'm still working on my interval gears and TT100 fist.

    +10 is insufficient for a barb with that much hp. +10 is even tough on lvl11 stone barrier too. :\
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  • Motoko - Raging Tide
    Motoko - Raging Tide Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    +10 is insufficient for a barb with that much hp. +10 is even tough on lvl11 stone barrier too. :\

    You're telling me that +10 striking dragon at 5 atk/sec demon sparked with tangling mire, occult ice and RotP can't kill a 25k hp barb? b:cry I'mma go reroll wiz, my dreams have been shattered.
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  • oyamajio
    oyamajio Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Motoko - Raging Tide wrote: »
    You're telling me that +10 striking dragon at 5 atk/sec demon sparked with tangling mire, occult ice and RotP can't kill a 25k hp barb? b:cry I'mma go reroll wiz, my dreams have been shattered.

    He can say whatever he wants. We can say whatever we want too. But it's the proof that matters. if the BM failed to kill the barb for whatever reasons, I have a strong feeling there's something wrong. We're talking about using any mean, not just auto attack with the fist, right? I'm looking forward to test it on my own when I get there.
  • Motoko - Raging Tide
    Motoko - Raging Tide Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    IDK, theres not a Barb on my server with 25k HP yet. The one with the highest HP is 23k tiger and 15k in human with bloodbath on iirc, was able to kill him at 2.86 atk/sec with +5 nirvana claws XD.
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    You say it like a pvp experienced barb using pk pots and every other method they can to stay alive is easy to kill. That's kinda funny. Shoulda rolled a PvP server. lol
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  • oyamajio
    oyamajio Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    You say it like a pvp experienced barb using pk pots and every other method they can to stay alive is easy to kill. That's kinda funny. Shoulda rolled a PvP server. lol

    No, you took it the wrong way. I've never meant it's easy to kill. All I was saying is "even a barb must run for his life no matter what hp he has," based on a video from the link. You have this too much ego, narrow mind sort of, for you keep bragging around YOU come from PVP server. You can turn PK since the day you start playing the game, there's a always a difference between a genius and a....
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    oyamajio wrote: »
    No, you took it the wrong way. I've never meant it's easy to kill. All I was saying is "even a barb must run for his life no matter what hp he has," based on a video from the link. You have this too much ego, narrow mind sort of, for you keep bragging around YOU come from PVP server. You can turn PK since the day you start playing the game, there's a always a difference between a genius and a....

    lol ego? Did you read your own post?
    oyamajio wrote: »
    if the BM failed to kill the barb for whatever reasons, I have a strong feeling there's something wrong. We're talking about using any mean, not just auto attack with the fist, right?

    How many cash shop pvp barbs have you tried to PK with fists/claws to say that there's something wrong? In group PvP you just don't take on the heavies, that's not your role as a BM. In 1v1 PvP you probably won't be able to keep a good 20k+ barb in one spot long enough to kill. A skilled player is a skilled player no matter WHAT class they play. Show some humility. Just cause you have -int and claws does not make you God's gift.

    You make all these statements like you have the proof when it's likely you don't.
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  • oyamajio
    oyamajio Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    lol ego? Did you read your own post?



    How many cash shop pvp barbs have you tried to PK with fists/claws to say that there's something wrong? In group PvP you just don't take on the heavies, that's not your role as a BM. In 1v1 PvP you probably won't be able to keep a good 20k+ barb in one spot long enough to kill. A skilled player is a skilled player no matter WHAT class they play. Show some humility. Just cause you have -int and claws does not make you God's gift.

    You make all these statements like you have the proof when it's likely you don't.

    That's lame. You've made a lot of false assumption based on a few words I put b:chuckle I can't fix that, GOOD LUCK! LOL
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    oyamajio wrote: »
    That's lame. You've made a lot of false assumption based on a few words I put b:chuckle I can't fix that, GOOD LUCK! LOL

    You assume I have an ego when you're just as guilty... You think you're god with -int and a highly refined fist/claw, then a +10 cv/8jun mage frenzies and one shots you.

    If you're talking about killing a better geared non-cash shopper or barb, or are just talking about duels, yeah, it's pretty easy. Endgame fist/claw BM isn't cheap if you want to be effective at end-game PvP.

    And you act like I have something to learn, and I admit there's a lot I don't know, but I'm already at end-game with claws... so whatever.
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  • oyamajio
    oyamajio Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    You assume I have an ego when you're just as guilty... You think you're god with -int and a highly refined fist/claw, then a +10 cv/8jun mage frenzies and one shots you.

    If you're talking about killing a better geared non-cash shopper or barb, or are just talking about duels, yeah, it's pretty easy. Endgame fist/claw BM isn't cheap if you want to be effective at end-game PvP.

    And you act like I have something to learn, and I admit there's a lot I don't know, but I'm already at end-game with claws... so whatever.

    Let me make it short and clear since you have too small a brain to comprehend. Here I am a noncash shopper but I am one of the smartest on the server to achieve almost 2 Billion by now. Just waiting for a right moment to get gears worthy billion coins. Even now, I can kick and pound pretty hard. Since you're a cash shopper, you can move with your $, but I can't with my coins. I"m looking forward to teaching you how to pound so hard. Come with this name, I'll pm you in game to meet and start pounding. b:bye
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    oyamajio wrote: »
    Let me make it short and clear since you have too small a brain to comprehend. Here I am a noncash shopper but I am one of the smartest on the server to achieve almost 2 Billion by now. Just waiting for a right moment to get gears worthy billion coins. Even now, I can kick and pound pretty hard. Since you're a cash shopper, you can move with your $, but I can't with my coins. I"m looking forward to teaching you how to pound so hard. Come with this name, I'll pm you in game to meet and start pounding. b:bye

    What an absolutely amazing imagination you have. You're just too brilliant for me to comprehend. I bow down to your absolute greatness, oh godly one.

    Post from your main, so I can tremble in the massive cloud of fear that you radiate?

    b:pleased
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  • Kristoph - Lost City
    Kristoph - Lost City Posts: 2,016 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    oyamajio wrote: »
    but I am one of the smartest on the server to achieve almost 2 Billion by now. Even now, I can kick and pound pretty hard. Since you're a cash shopper, you can move with your $, but I can't with my coins. I"m looking forward to teaching you how to pound so hard. Come with this name, I'll pm you in game to meet and start pounding. b:bye
    LOL


    This better be a troll...
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