Assassin's Skill - Shadow Walk

Anakarr - Raging Tide

This is the PWI form of stealth for Assassins. I understand the need for this as it plays a critical role in the class's playability. However, I must say that I am displeased in the fact that it costs MP, as well as THAT much MP to cast/use.

stealth is a critical ability/skill in all rogue-like classes. It is needed. Putting the MP cost that high only enables it's use for a little while. I might suggest either taking down the prolonged use cost of MP, or, removing the cost entirely, and replacing it with a slower movement speed while using it.

Those are two very viable options for this problem. lets please seriously lok into this.

GohanX - Dreamweaver

Get to level 30 and use Focus Powder.

/thread

Sirrobert - Dreamweaver

OMFG, 24 mp a sec. Get it of me, I only regen twice that amount.
O wait, I'm a wizzy b:laugh

So seriusly, you want the most OP skil there is to NOT cost any mp?
Did you know you can be completly invisible from a lvl 100 player at lvl 71? And from a lvl 100 sin at lvl 81.

Ofcourse, such a strong skil should not cost anything.


PS, 24mp/sec is NOTHING. Absolutely NOTHING. At lvl 10 of the skil, it's 14mp/sec. That's even less than NOTHING.
A lvl 40 mp pot gives you what, 1k mp? I think it's even more. That's enough to keep stealth for ....71 secs.

MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear

Yeah that mp cost was really little for the great effect it has. b:thanks
Btw, that mean you were still at low lv . .
Prepare your self some hp pot, life powder, mantou, genie second wind, hp charm. b:pleased
Assassin early life is hard. b:shocked (Yes, really hard for me compared to other class, i am serious.)

Maddieson - Sanctuary

Having that high cost is what keeps assassin's from killing whenever they want from stealth. PWI made it so othr classes wouldn't be nerfed.
If you really want to be in stealth the whole time, get an MP charm.

Hazumu - Dreamweaver

Talking about high mp costing MP skills, it's hard to beat BB, or RB. Wizards have DB and archers have Barrage. (Does Barrage cost MP that much? Not sure. hehe...)

Those are all 100 mp / second. My whole 7k MP holds BB up for 1 minute and 10 seconds. Thank goodness for event food and focus powder. ^^;;

Not sure what my natural MP recovery rate is, but if BB costed 24 mp / second, I might be able to hold it for indefinately, that would be wicked, heeheehee...

MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear

Compare that 24 mana / second with these . . b:laugh

Wizard : Dragon Breath (350 mana on lv 11)
The power of the Fire God surrounds your body in a blazing vortex.
All enemies within 6 meters of you suffer constant Fire damage.
Consumes 300 Mana every 3 seconds, inflicting Fire damage
equal to base magic damage plus 4458.2. Casting will not stop
until Mana is depleted or the spell is cancelled.

Cleric : Regeneration Aura
Focus your empathetic energy to heal squad members within 15 meters
of you. Use 500 mana every 5 seconds to recover HP equal to 300 plus
20% of base magic attack every 5 seconds and cut all damage taken
by 50%. Skill will not stop until click Cancel or press ESC.

Archer : Barrage of Arrows (The champion of mana eating skills) (655 mana on lv 11)
Consuming 540 mana every 3 seconds, release countless arrows
into the sky delivering devastating damage to the target and enemies
within a 12.0 meter radius of the target, inflicting base
physical damage plus 200% of weapon damage plus 4585.6.
Skill will not stop until you click cancel button or press ESC.

Cirdan - Lost City

MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Compare that 24 mana / second with these . . b:laugh

Wizard : Dragon Breath (350 mana on lv 11)
The power of the Fire God surrounds your body in a blazing vortex.
All enemies within 6 meters of you suffer constant Fire damage.
Consumes 300 Mana every 3 seconds, inflicting Fire damage
equal to base magic damage plus 4458.2. Casting will not stop
until Mana is depleted or the spell is cancelled.

Cleric : Regeneration Aura
Focus your empathetic energy to heal squad members within 15 meters
of you. Use 500 mana every 5 seconds to recover HP equal to 300 plus
20% of base magic attack every 5 seconds and cut all damage taken
by 50%. Skill will not stop until click Cancel or press ESC.

Archer : Barrage of Arrows (The champion of mana eating skills) (655 mana on lv 11)
Consuming 540 mana every 3 seconds, release countless arrows
into the sky delivering devastating damage to the target and enemies
within a 12.0 meter radius of the target, inflicting base
physical damage plus 200% of weapon damage plus 4585.6.
Skill will not stop until you click cancel button or press ESC.

+1 to that, Barrage Takes so much mp, especially for a class with about 2.2k mp at lvl100 on average. Thats enough to keep the skill up for 9-12 seconds unless you have event mp pots, a mana charm, or mana aura lvl2 in rebirth. It also takes 258 just to start the skill.

Anakarr - Raging Tide wrote: »

This is the PWI form of stealth for Assassins. I understand the need for this as it plays a critical role in the class's playability. However, I must say that I am displeased in the fact that it costs MP, as well as THAT much MP to cast/use.

stealth is a critical ability/skill in all rogue-like classes. It is needed. Putting the MP cost that high only enables it's use for a little while. I might suggest either taking down the prolonged use cost of MP, or, removing the cost entirely, and replacing it with a slower movement speed while using it.

Those are two very viable options for this problem. lets please seriously lok into this.

Please lvl up and stop complaining. >.>

MagicHamsta - Lost City

Focus powder: 50 MP per second.
Stealth: 24 MP per second......14 mp at max level

ya....so you think GAINING MP is a problem?

VerenKaunis - Dreamweaver

To OP: From the point of view of a sin, no.b:bye

Edit: Also, a level 20 potion restores 330 MP over 10 seconds and have a 10 second cooldown while level 1 shadow walk needs 240 MP for 10 seconds (and the MP cost goes down as you level it). Level 20 MP pots drop like candy and are cheap to buy from apothecaries. Before you complain about having to buy and/or use pots to stay in stealth, it's just part of being a sin; like how barbs and BMs have higher repair costs than other classes and venos need to buy food for their pets.

Maddieson - Sanctuary wrote: »

If you really want to be in stealth the whole time, get an MP charm.

^This

Just remember to leave stealth after using stealth escape to gain a spark when you log in. I went afk for an hour and killed my MP charm that way.b:cry

jokerxdude

Umm... equip a magic charm and go wild?

Shredclaw - Sanctuary

Yes, when you first get the skill it can slaughter your mp. But your measly lvl 20 pots almost completely counteract it. and that's just for the lvl 1 shadow walk. Once you get to about lvl 25-30, you're not going to have any problems with it.

And yes, I speak from experience. New main is my lvl 38 assassin b:victory

VerenKaunis - Dreamweaver

Shredclaw - Sanctuary wrote: »

Yes, when you first get the skill it can slaughter your mp. But your measly lvl 20 pots almost completely counteract it. and that's just for the lvl 1 shadow walk.

True, but there's really no use for shadow walk below level 20. Hell, there's no use for it outside of PvP until much higher levels from what I can tell.

GohanX - Dreamweaver

It can be used to scout ahead for bosses, go kill a gate guard, and get past patrols when you get back to the bh51 after turning in one of the bosses.

Shredclaw - Sanctuary

I had a good use for it. It allowed me to slip through the secret passage safely, for my weapon token. But that was before they changed it and made it so that any mob higher than your level + your stealth level could see you.

GohanX - Dreamweaver

Here's a good use for it. Use Focus Powder and hang around a newbie area, come out of stealth mode in front of a newbie only for a second and laugh when they go O.O

VerenKaunis - Dreamweaver

GohanX - Dreamweaver wrote: »

It can be used to scout ahead for bosses, go kill a gate guard, and get past patrols when you get back to the bh51 after turning in one of the bosses.

b:surrender

Seems like a **** move to me to just run past all the walkers when everyone else has to kill them though. Doesn't even save time since you'd have to wait for the rest of your squad anyway. =/

Shredclaw - Sanctuary wrote: »

I had a good use for it. It allowed me to slip through the secret passage safely, for my weapon token. But that was before they changed it and made it so that any mob higher than your level + your stealth level could see you.

b:surrenderb:surrender

I actually did that as well. I also use stealth to get the celestial painting and chest of earth (?) in SP. Not sure why I forgot about those. =\

Nudefoxy - Lost City

yeah if we had same assassins they got in ******** the we could take down anyone qqb:thanks

Nudefoxy - Lost City

Nudefoxy - Lost City wrote: »

yeah if we had same assassins they got in ******** the we could take down anyone qqb:thanks

i cant say war craft?