How much nothing can you get?

wtvdie
wtvdie Posts: 0 Arc User
edited March 2010 in Cash Shop Huddle
Just wondering, how many packs you people have opened and only gotten perfect tokens. not even best luck tokens? im at 560
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  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    wtvdie wrote: »
    Just wondering, how many packs you people have opened and only gotten perfect tokens. not even best luck tokens? im at 560

    Probability to get something good was MUCH lowered. When I open 50 pack and speaking in faction I realize this truth. Nobody didn't get anything worth and is faction with 200 members. So I stopped to buy packs. They lower it without warnings.b:angryb:angryb:angry
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  • Raybeez - Lost City
    Raybeez - Lost City Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    none.. not even worth the time/money.. by the time u get anything valuable uve already spent almost more then the amout u used to get that prize lol..
  • LloydAsplund - Sanctuary
    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary Posts: 3,899 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    First anni packs = 150. all tokens.

    Uhh, second time = 100 packs. all tokens.

    1st Coral = 150 packs. Gave, 3 best luck, plat. mp, sapphire gem.

    This coral = 150 packs. Gave, lunar wep, diamond, plat hp.
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  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary wrote: »
    First anni packs = 150. all tokens.

    Uhh, second time = 100 packs. all tokens.

    1st Coral = 150 packs. Gave, 3 best luck, plat. mp, sapphire gem.

    This coral = 150 packs. Gave, lunar wep, diamond, plat hp.

    So then you are extremely lucky. I never get anything from packs. Just 2 best tokens. And from coral packs absolutely NOTHING.
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  • Elvindor - Heavens Tear
    Elvindor - Heavens Tear Posts: 256 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/quest/21466

    98% chance to get tokens GG b:bye
  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Elvindor - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/quest/21466

    98% chance to get tokens GG b:bye


    And why is Wing Trophy Lunarglade just 0.005%? Lowest chance ever. :-((
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  • wtvdie
    wtvdie Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    so.. i theoretically should have gotten 10 non token items. ty pwi.b:angry
  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    wtvdie wrote: »
    so.. i theoretically should have gotten 10 non token items. ty pwi.b:angry
    I think that your chance is even lower than official database. I have no doubts they cheating.b:angry
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  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Well, it was 97% of chance to get tokens from Anni packs, so it's not that much of a difference. I suggest you don't buy any packs tho.
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  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Well, it was 97% of chance to get tokens from Anni packs, so it's not that much of a difference. I suggest you don't buy any packs tho.

    1% is quite big difference. Also The chance of best token was much higher.
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  • Solandri - Heavens Tear
    Solandri - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    If I put in HT market prices for the various prizes, anniv packs were worth almost 50% more than coral packs. In particular, the anniv packs had a 0.215% chance to get a really nice prize (something with a market value of over 25 mil). With coral packs, the really nice prizes only happen 0.092% of the time.

    Anyway, to get back to the OP's question, here are the odds of opening x packs and getting nothing but luck tokens:

    1 pack: 98%
    10 packs: 81.7%
    100 packs: 13.3%
    250 packs: 0.64%
    500 packs: 0.004%

    The last one is pretty funny because it's twice the odds of getting a scroll of tome from the coral packs. That is, if you are trying to get a scroll of tome by opening packs, you are twice as likely to end up with nothing but bad luck tokens as you are to get a scroll of tome.
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    And why is Wing Trophy Lunarglade just 0.005%? Lowest chance ever. :-((

    Scroll of Tome Annipacks = 0.01% Coral Packs = 0.002% :<
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  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Scroll of Tome Annipacks = 0.01% Coral Packs = 0.002% :<

    Ok. But lunar glade is still very low. I'm pissed of how they cheated us. :-(b:angry
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  • WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary
    WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary Posts: 1,686 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Solandri - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    500 packs: 0.004%

    The last one is pretty funny because it's twice the odds of getting a scroll of tome from the coral packs. That is, if you are trying to get a scroll of tome by opening packs, you are twice as likely to end up with nothing but bad luck tokens as you are to get a scroll of tome.
    But to be more precise, he said he'd opened 560, which is .0012%, so he's beaten the odds for a Scroll of Tome, which is .002% from Coral packs.
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  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary wrote: »
    But to be more precise, he said he'd opened 560, which is .0012%, so he's beaten the odds for a Scroll of Tome, which is .002% from Coral packs.

    The WORST he even didn't get anything. I know theoretically he could get scroll of tome but he get nothing.b:shockedb:angry
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  • Wahida - Harshlands
    Wahida - Harshlands Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I think he has 560 tokens NOT 560 packs.
    ijs
  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Wahida - Harshlands wrote: »
    I think he has 560 tokens NOT 560 packs.
    ijs

    Yep he should clear it up.
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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    have you noticed that gold hasn't gone as high?
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  • Solandri - Heavens Tear
    Solandri - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Wahida - Harshlands wrote: »
    I think he has 560 tokens NOT 560 packs.
    ijs
    560 doesn't divide evenly by 15, so I doubt it's the number of tokens. Not unless he had a few tokens left over from before.
  • Pervera - Lost City
    Pervera - Lost City Posts: 137 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Solandri - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    560 doesn't divide evenly by 15, so I doubt it's the number of tokens. Not unless he had a few tokens left over from before.

    "Just wondering, how many packs you people have opened and only gotten perfect tokens. not even best luck tokens? im at 560"

    Anyone see that he's talking about opening tokens? Or im blind or it's all about opening packs.
  • Chezedude - Dreamweaver
    Chezedude - Dreamweaver Posts: 236 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Pervera - Lost City wrote: »
    "Just wondering, how many packs you people have opened and only gotten perfect tokens. not even best luck tokens? im at 560"

    Anyone see that he's talking about opening tokens? Or im blind or it's all about opening packs.

    I opened 9001 packs and got 9002 scroll of tomes.
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  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    why are yall quoting PWdatabase? those rates are inaccurate and have been stated so by a number of officials from PW when it pertains to chances in boxes for rare items.
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  • Russiee - Raging Tide
    Russiee - Raging Tide Posts: 848 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I opened 10 boxes and got 10 tokens. I think I got scammed...
    But PWdatabase says its not hax! so its all good. /sarcasm
  • WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary
    WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary Posts: 1,686 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    why are yall quoting PWdatabase? those rates are inaccurate and have been stated so by a number of officials from PW when it pertains to chances in boxes for rare items.
    The numbers from PWDatabase are extracted directly from the game files. If the numbers have changed since the extraction was done then they'll be wrong. In the past PWDatabase was using old data files, and thus was full of errors, but it was recently updated just after Coral packs came out.

    While changes may have occurred since then it's still the most reliable source of information we have access to. Meanwhile, the word of various officials has, to be polite, been somewhat hit-or-miss.
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  • samasalao
    samasalao Posts: 159 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »
    have you noticed that gold hasn't gone as high?

    I think the reason is that ppl is getting only tokens and many are giving up on them and so not buying gold, I agree that something is odd with current coral packs, I opened 53 and got tokens only b:sad, I gave up on this event.

    IMO admins nerfed the rates that this set of packs give anything but tokens, there is absolutely no way to prove it though so is pure speculation from my side.
  • UntamePrince - Heavens Tear
    UntamePrince - Heavens Tear Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I don't know how many packs I have opened, but I have obtained over 1000 tokens, 3 platinum guardian charms - sold for 2 million each, & 1 lunar insignia - ornament - sold for 50 million. I'm still happy either way =]
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  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    samasalao wrote: »
    I think the reason is that ppl is getting only tokens and many are giving up on them and so not buying gold, I agree that something is odd with current coral packs, I opened 53 and got tokens only b:sad, I gave up on this event.

    IMO admins nerfed the rates that this set of packs give anything but tokens, there is absolutely no way to prove it though so is pure speculation from my side.

    It's not speculation. It's a FACT. I spoke with many members of my faction they have same feeling and almost same results. Of course sometimes some1 get something worth but this ratio is MUCH smaller than used to be.
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  • Knownase - Heavens Tear
    Knownase - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,959 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Coral Packs are worse than anni packs, but oh well.



    I wanted tokens mostly for sage skills and stuff.


    I can care less about the gear and equips.


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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I'm still fairly convinced that there are accounts that are more prone to trigger receiving more items than others.

    One friend I have has always had great luck opening packs. In roughly 1000 packs, she got 3 heavenrage boots, 4 frost weapons, event helm, cloudcharger, wing trophy, over a dozen charms and numerous best lucks. Oddly, she didn't get a single Lunar item.

    In about 500 annipacks I got Lunar weapon, Holy Helm, several charms and a badge of bravery. Enough not to buy anymore, and nothing out of about 30 Coral Packs, so I've given up.

    Still need Scroll of Tome, but looks like I may never get it.... oh well.
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  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »

    Still need Scroll of Tome, but looks like I may never get it.... oh well.

    This is BS. Just be patience. Maybe not at these pack, but will come another or maybe you will save more money. Never say never. I also waiting on my lunar cape and nothing. I'm normally thinking to start grinding and gather mats for these new lunar capes. I know they are expensive but not impossible to get by the time.
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