0.25*3.33+3.33=/=5

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Divine_Death - Dreamweaver
Divine_Death - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,491 Arc User
edited March 2010 in Blademaster
This has been bothering me since I can't work the math out. Demon spark boosts 3.33 attacks /sec into 5. That's not 25% increase but a 50% increase. I thought maybe it takes 0.1 int off instead so it brings you from 0.3 int to 0.2 int? But mine takes me from 1.82 to 2.5, neither 25% increase or -0.1 int... Anyone got a clue how the speed boost from it is calculated exactly?
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  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited March 2010
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    thats because you have the formula wrong :v.

    3.33 needs to be converted into its inverse, 1 / 3.33 = ~.30

    need to do do (.30) x (1 - .25 for the speed boost) = .23

    since this is not a valid .05 interval, it rounds to the nearest one up, which is .20 (AKA 5 atk / s) this is where attack speed is capped. thx has good day now u hear :v.

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  • Divine_Death - Dreamweaver
    Divine_Death - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,491 Arc User
    edited March 2010
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    Since 3.33 would be your actual attack speed, calculating the boost from its inverse, or interval between attacks, seems counterintuitive to me. Hmm it does also workout with (.55)*(1-0.25)=0.4125, rounds to 0.4 interval or 2.5 attacks/sec. So it doesn't increase your attack speed by 25% but take 25% off of your interval huh? Interesting... b:thanks
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  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
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    ya, since .55 interval = 1.82 atk/s, when you do that math, itll come out how you have it there.

    elena costel reverse engineered the formula, the lady is a mad math wiz
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  • Devoted - Lost City
    Devoted - Lost City Posts: 3,634 Arc User
    edited March 2010
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    Divine_Death - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Since 3.33 would be your actual attack speed, calculating the boost from its inverse, or interval between attacks, seems counterintuitive to me. Hmm it does also workout with (.55)*(1-0.25)=0.4125, rounds to 0.4 interval or 2.5 attacks/sec. So it doesn't increase your attack speed by 25% but take 25% off of your interval huh? Interesting... b:thanks

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  • Raybeez - Lost City
    Raybeez - Lost City Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited March 2010
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    So much math!!b:faint making my brain go ....b:tired
  • Telarith - Sanctuary
    Telarith - Sanctuary Posts: 1,417 Arc User
    edited March 2010
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    Devoted - Lost City wrote: »
    Don't question an archer.

    Meh, when archers stop being corrected by BMs, this will undoubtedly have more impact :P
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  • Divine_Death - Dreamweaver
    Divine_Death - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,491 Arc User
    edited March 2010
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    So I guess other skills that "increase attack speed by xx%", such as Cyclone and Relentless, are all calculated in the same manner?

    And I think Telarith mentioned 0.55 int sparks to the same speed as 0.5 int? So that means when it's in the middle like 0.5*0.75=0.375, it rounds to 4 instead of 3.5?
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  • Telarith - Sanctuary
    Telarith - Sanctuary Posts: 1,417 Arc User
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    Divine_Death - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    So I guess other skills that "increase attack speed by xx%", such as Cyclone and Relentless, are all calculated in the same manner?

    And I think Telarith mentioned 0.55 int sparks to the same speed as 0.5 int? So that means when it's in the middle like 0.5*0.75=0.375, it rounds to 4 instead of 3.5?

    It's based on the attack speed buff, instead of a static number for all speed buffs. .45 interval is the same as .5 interval with a 25% speed buff; same with .65 and .7, and .25 and .3. This applies for only the exact number of a 25% speed buff. Even a 1% buff difference skews that particular result.
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  • Kristoph - Lost City
    Kristoph - Lost City Posts: 2,016 Arc User
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    Divine_Death - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    So I guess other skills that "increase attack speed by xx%", such as Cyclone and Relentless, are all calculated in the same manner?

    And I think Telarith mentioned 0.55 int sparks to the same speed as 0.5 int? So that means when it's in the middle like 0.5*0.75=0.375, it rounds to 4 instead of 3.5?
    Basically if you have .30 interval and you take 25% off, it'll round the 0.225 down. 0.375 goes to .35 meaning 2.86.
    Wondering how much longer these **** packs are going to be around.

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