trying to fix THE ARCHER lac of usfull skills

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  • TigerLily - Lost City
    TigerLily - Lost City Posts: 1,209 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    QQ more QQers, I have a friend that plays archer just fine, although he now plays barb.

    Stormrage eagle is a great skill, it does one of the best damage without worrying about casting time and sacrfice, costing reasonable MP, while most classes have to use a lot more mana than you. This is also like 1.5 channeling speed, which is one of the top 4 channeling. It have many effects too, this skill will also allow people to kite even more. If you want it to one spark instead, how about making casting time longer then?


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  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Winged shell heal hp ? b:puzzled
    Maybe they should add more stunning skills for archer ? Maybe a passive skills like a head shot that stun people for a short amount of time ?
    And something too increase their attack speed drastically for a short time . . maybe add these effect on elven alacrity.

    I wouldn't mind actually seeing this changing the functionality of winged shell as self heal instead of regaining mp.
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  • Esuna - Raging Tide
    Esuna - Raging Tide Posts: 830 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I wouldn't mind actually seeing this changing the functionality of winged shell as self heal instead of regaining mp.

    It absorbs 1000 damage, I guess that sorta counts as saving HP. It's more useful than Metabolic or the wiz/psy heal which take ages to cast and don't prevent, but you can only cast when you're already in trouble.
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  • Fleuri - Sanctuary
    Fleuri - Sanctuary Posts: 1,763 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Esuna - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Lol, Stormrage Eagleon a great skill? No sacrifice? That **** costs 2 sparks and channels longer than most other skills, lmfao. Sparks better spent on Aim Low and the magic skills/winged shell/Demonspark.

    You sir, know nothing about Archers. Go away.

    For example, if you have a herc tanking and the herc dies (because of lag, or whatever), and you have aggro, you are responsible for staying alive while your veno ressurects, heals and rebuffs her herc, and getting that boss back on the herc.

    If you are a good archer you should be able to kite the boss nearly indefinitely (not always, of course, no one is perfect), but how are you going to slow it down long enough for the herc to start pulling aggro? Aim low certainly will not help.
    Esuna - Raging Tide wrote: »
    It absorbs 1000 damage, I guess that sorta counts as saving HP. It's more useful than Metabolic or the wiz/psy heal which take ages to cast and don't prevent, but you can only cast when you're already in trouble.

    Actually, winged shell absorbs 80% damage and pops when it has taken too much damage (and 1000 could be too much damage for demon winged shell).
  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    so if True Form costed 2 sparks, would you tell barbs how, by running at the speed of a freaking mount, they can use it to kite a boss? that it should stay as a 2 spark skill? i think you're missing the point here. Stormrage is not worth 2 sparks.

    i'm curious, have you fought anything with random aggro before? when that boss is running towards you the last thing you think about is channeling Stormrage, aside from the fact that you may not even have 2 sparks. Once the boss starts channeling you can run all you like, that nuke is going to hit you.
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  • Fleuri - Sanctuary
    Fleuri - Sanctuary Posts: 1,763 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »
    so if True Form costed 2 sparks, would you tell barbs how, by running at the speed of a freaking mount, they can use it to kite a boss? that it should stay as a 2 spark skill? i think you're missing the point here. Stormrage is not worth 2 sparks.

    i'm curious, have you fought anything with random aggro before? when that boss is running towards you the last thing you think about is channeling Stormrage, aside from the fact that you may not even have 2 sparks. Once the boss starts channeling you can run all you like, that nuke is going to hit you.

    I have fought ethereal abomination numerous times, with just Meliah, myself, and her hercules. And yes, I have sometimes used stormrage on him when i have aggro. I have not found its channeling time to be a problem but I do need to pick my moment to use the skill or it and my sparks are wasted.

    I have also found other uses for stormrage eagelon, but they are in TW and I have enough problems in TW right now without telling other people how I sometimes play.

    I will agree that I feel stormrage could gain some utility or some damage or whatever, and still be in line with other skills. I think all of our DoT skills could be improved, even if only +45% weapon damage per tick... But that does not make them worthless.

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