Is there anyway to Take down Nef?? "BigRed"

Nadis - Sanctuary

_Sheh - Sanctuary wrote: »

My main, xAsch, was banned after I left like a year ago b:shocked Kinda hard to post on him.

I still havent seen you on rising tide b:angry

FrozenMeadow - Sanctuary

I decided not to post might later

By_uL - Sanctuary

Aliure - Sanctuary wrote: »

If you are afraid of us turning into Nef, why are you acting like a nef would? You know, posting on pwi forums under and alt. Nef alts are definitely a trademark.

Hm, well officers are always willing to listen to what members have to say if you talk to them about it. ^^ But posting your concerns here under an alt here is cool too, i guess.

Then again, I wonder if you are even really from Regicide.

Don't conclude other alts are legitimate Nefarious members then turn around and say this person must be pretending to be a Regicide member. Believe if you want their legitimacy, but don't shift your standpoint just because they happen to be discussing your own faction.

If Regicide's intentions are what it is, then truly the rest of the server should applaud in their efforts. However, it's also saddening you hear members consistently propagandizing Regicide to be the great savior to help rid of the evil Nef and save our TW system. Maybe I am biased.... but Nef shrived to achieve what the game intended the players to do, yet are at fault for holding land. Sometimes I'm torn between thinking if it is really Nef's "evil" doing or the rest of the servers lack of unity and incompetence that created this resent/distaste.

Anyways.. action speaks louder than word, you don't need to jump on the defensive by every little word against you or repeat over and over your intention. It only shows insecurity and unnecessary propaganda.

At least that's my opinion b:surrender

Emerencia - Sanctuary

Xcbeg - Sanctuary wrote: »

I'm disappointed but Regicide starting to slowly act like the big red nef and I am afraid that we will become the second nef sooner or later if this continue. I hope that my prediction is wrong and I don't see a day where everyone turn on Regicide like they did with nef.

Spying on another faction's forum: Checked
Fake bidding like Nef did long ago: Checked

That's 2 of the symptoms of the behavior of nef that I saw in Regicide already.

Post on your main or this post is irrelevant. b:laugh

TheDan - Sanctuary

Only a true Nefarious member would know what it's like to be in Nef. I won't act like I know what Nefarious is like because I've never been in Nef. I can't argue what faction is "better" or has better "principles" since I've never been in Nef. So before you, me, or anyone else judges how a member's "behaviors" are like, ask yourself if you've ever been in those particular factions.

But I will say this, as my last comment regarding this topic. I'm not excusing what people do, or protecting anyone, but judging a faction to be "Like Nef" based off of 1 or 2 individuals, to me seems like a very closed-minded thing to do. No one's perfect and that's not what we expect out of our members, but what do we stand for? Only someone who's been in Regicide can answer that for you.

By the way, you've been identified as a level 82 Barb according to your profile. But like I said, if anyone can identify themselves to me as a Regicide member I'd gladly address any concerns they have with me personally. Until then, I cannot voice Regicide affairs outside of Regicide ears. Have a nice day.

Aliure - Sanctuary

By_uL - Sanctuary wrote: »

Don't conclude other alts are legitimate Nefarious members then turn around and say this person must be pretending to be a Regicide member. Believe if you want their legitimacy, but don't shift your standpoint just because they happen to be discussing your own faction.

If Regicide's intentions are what it is, then truly the rest of the server should applaud in their efforts. However, it's also saddening you hear members consistently propagandizing Regicide to be the great savior to help rid of the evil Nef and save our TW system. Maybe I am biased.... but Nef shrived to achieve what the game intended the players to do, yet are at fault for holding land. Sometimes I'm torn between thinking if it is really Nef's "evil" doing or the rest of the servers lack of unity and incompetence that created this resent/distaste.

Anyways.. action speaks louder than word, you don't need to jump on the defensive by every little word against you or repeat over and over your intention. It only shows insecurity and unnecessary propaganda.

At least that's my opinion b:surrender

And of course I question the legitimacy of some nef alts, as I do Xcbeg's alt. But face it, the "nef alts" are pretty famous in some threads (I put quotes because they are coined that, but there is some doubt there, happy? ^^ ) I'm a fair and nice person, I swear.

Besides, you have never spoken to me before, we have never done any instance together besides TW. For you to make assumptions about my thoughts, intentions, and character without even knowing me seems kind of hypocritical to what you are trying to scold me for, no? I wasn't aware you knew me so well. I don't see where you got that I was defensive, cause I was just amused. I didn't even realize i was exposing all of my intentions and my soul for everyone to see in that post. ^^ It's fine though, think what you want of me, everyone is entitled to their own opinions and I really don't care. I play this game for fun, and these posts definitelyyyy entertain me.

And Dan, I completely agree.

Wyborn - Sanctuary

Everyone needs to chillax and do some nirvana.

And of course give me all the drops.

Magnate - Sanctuary

Nadis - Sanctuary wrote: »

I still havent seen you on rising tide b:angry

Nodis miss u **** b:dirty

Knullruffs - Raging Tide

Magnate - Sanctuary wrote: »

Nodis miss u **** b:dirty

lol hey maggot, how have you been you sexy beast b:dirty

Wyborn - Sanctuary

By_uL - Sanctuary wrote: »

Don't conclude other alts are legitimate Nefarious members then turn around and say this person must be pretending to be a Regicide member. Believe if you want their legitimacy, but don't shift your standpoint just because they happen to be discussing your own faction.

If Regicide's intentions are what it is, then truly the rest of the server should applaud in their efforts. However, it's also saddening you hear members consistently propagandizing Regicide to be the great savior to help rid of the evil Nef and save our TW system. Maybe I am biased.... but Nef shrived to achieve what the game intended the players to do, yet are at fault for holding land. Sometimes I'm torn between thinking if it is really Nef's "evil" doing or the rest of the servers lack of unity and incompetence that created this resent/distaste.

Anyways.. action speaks louder than word, you don't need to jump on the defensive by every little word against you or repeat over and over your intention. It only shows insecurity and unnecessary propaganda.

At least that's my opinion b:surrender

I just think that if people want to say things, they should come out and say it face to face. You're already hiding behind a computer screen, why do you need to hide your identity behind an alt?

If you cannot take the heat for saying certain things, just don't say it. Or man up and take ownership of what you say.

I don't want to generalize, because I know it's not true for all people in Nefarious, but there are quite a few members in Nefarious that trash talk to no end. When they were dominating the map, they were trash talking and acting as if they were kings, and everyone else was a lowly being that was incompetent of doing anything. Through alts. Because they didn't want to be responsible for their own words, or they didn't want to be seen as someone that would say such words.

But anyhow, that's in the past.

By_uL - Sanctuary

Aliure - Sanctuary wrote: »

And of course I question the legitimacy of some nef alts, as I do Xcbeg's alt. But face it, the "nef alts" are pretty famous in some threads (I put quotes because they are coined that, but there is some doubt there, happy? ^^ ) I'm a fair and nice person, I swear.

Besides, you have never spoken to me before, we have never done any instance together besides TW. For you to make assumptions about my thoughts, intentions, and character without even knowing me seems kind of hypocritical to what you are trying to scold me for, no? I wasn't aware you knew me so well. I don't see where you got that I was defensive, cause I was just amused. I didn't even realize i was exposing all of my intentions and my soul for everyone to see in that post. ^^ It's fine though, think what you want of me, everyone is entitled to their own opinions and I really don't care. I play this game for fun, and these posts definitelyyyy entertain me.

And Dan, I completely agree.

Not quite sure which part of my post made you feel that I was personally attacking you. The only part directed at you was the first paragraph. Your right, I don't know you at all, and that is why I only commented on what you said regarding alts being a Nef trademark. If you truly despise what they do then be consistent with where you stand. You use Nef alts to mock Nefarious yet defend your own faction from an alt, maybe that seems more hypocritical to me, no?

From the second paragraph on it was addressed to Regicide and the server as a whole, so I will not reply to the rest of your comments. Maybe I could have worded things differently to prevent the confusion~

By_uL - Sanctuary

Wyborn - Sanctuary wrote: »

I just think that if people want to say things, they should come out and say it face to face. You're already hiding behind a computer screen, why do you need to hide your identity behind an alt?

If you cannot take the heat for saying certain things, just don't say it. Or man up and take ownership of what you say.

I don't want to generalize, because I know it's not true for all people in Nefarious, but there are quite a few members in Nefarious that trash talk to no end. When they were dominating the map, they were trash talking and acting as if they were kings, and everyone else was a lowly being that was incompetent of doing anything. Through alts. Because they didn't want to be responsible for their own words, or they didn't want to be seen as someone that would say such words.

But anyhow, that's in the past.

I think we're on the same page regarding alts....

Regarding your second comment, I'm sure a lot of people can equally say that about Regicide and many other factions. So your right, you shouldn't generalize :P

OOKyannaOo - Sanctuary

How are you guys doing? b:bye Just wondering b:cool

Aliure - Sanctuary

By_uL - Sanctuary wrote: »

Not quite sure which part of my post made you feel that I was personally attacking you. The only part directed at you was the first paragraph. Your right, I don't know you at all, and that is why I only commented on what you said regarding alts being a Nef trademark. If you truly despise what they do then be consistent with where you stand. You use Nef alts to mock Nefarious yet defend your own faction from an alt, maybe that seems more hypocritical to me, no?

From the second paragraph on it was addressed to Regicide and the server as a whole, so I will not reply to the rest of your comments. Maybe I could have worded things differently to prevent the confusion~

Well I'm sorry, I must have misunderstood then. The 3rd paragraph said *you* so naturally I assumed it was towards me.

Despise is such a strong word. The are hardly any things that I actually despise. Maybe just my super-procrastination skills at schoolwork?

Fenora - Sanctuary

Xcbeg - Sanctuary wrote: »

wait...so I can't post in public without consent of our officers? I can post anywhere I want and under any name I want. I'm just saying the recent changes I noticed lately, no need for the hate. Don't worry, I will be outta there if regi ever turn into second nef. Belive what you want whether I am really in regi or not.

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