Is it possible to get a Herc through in game coins.

Cookie_Doe - Heavens Tear

Okay so i started a new veno and im making better spending choices and im grinding much much more. I'm lvl 22 and already i have half a mil. The problem is that i have doubts. The only reason im putting out this much effort to make money is so that i can get a herc. Is it really possible to get a herc with in game money, by pure grinding and selling and practically starving ur self from teleing. Should i start saving for it this early or should i wait till later lvls... when the money is more. When i say i seriously cant spend real money on it i mean it. There are no 7 elevens or watever those stores r called in jamaica (where i live) and even if there were i still wudnt spend that much doe on it.

PS. i hope this becomes a discussion b:chuckle

tweakz

Yes, but it's easier at higher levels (though more work to level it). I would use the teleports as you most often can make what they cost you easily in the time they save you. Buying and selling is key.

Cookie_Doe - Heavens Tear

yeah but it all adds up. I dont know if it makes me greedy but, if i spend 10k on teleing and make back 20k i could have had 30k o_o if i didnt tele xD...maybe i am greedy lmao. Yeah that was what i thought, its much easier to save for it at higher lvls cause the money is much much much more, plus i originally wanted to get my self a mount or an aerocraft in earlier lvls so i would NOT have to tele at all, that would save me alot of money. I dont mind the leveling of the herc, more exp for me without even realising it.

Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear

I saved up for both my herc and my nix with in game coins.
Also, just because coin is easier to get at higher levels doesn't mean you should blow everything you have at lower levels. Yes, you should start saving now. Don't spend your coins on stupid luxuries (like fashion) and it'll be easier for you.

Cookie_Doe - Heavens Tear

ahh good to know theres a veno who actually saved in game coins for them , but not even a mount . Sadly the only mount ive ever gotten was a pwi anniversary mount...on my fail veno xD. I already sent a ticket to pwi requesting it to be turned over but more than 4 months now its still on the other veno xD. Also when i click on O and boutique comes up, i see something about battle pet packs under pets option. Whats in them?

Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear

The battle pet packs are where you get the sof/pf you need. They contain between 10-50 of either in each pack, so you need around 200 gold's worth of packs. lol.
Hmmm. Well, a spurred panther on HT sells for a bit less than 2.5 mil. I know the value of mats has dropped quite a bit lately, but if you're up for some major monotony, you can save up for a mount and then use it to farm to make that money back. That's originally how I saved up for my herc, but mats were worth quite a bit more then, and the herc was worth quite a bit less. lol.
It's tough going. I'm currently trying to save up ANOTHER 75 or so mil for something else, and it's not fun lol. But it is possible. I got my nix by stalking the auction house and looking for good deals (and honestly, taking advantage of peoples' mistakes.) Whenever I'm tired of grinding and don't have much else to do, I just watch the AH for awhile. You can sometimes make a killer profit, even if it's not the nicest way to do it lol.
Once you do get a herc, it can be pretty easy to make some of your coin back if you're up for farming TTs (though good profit doesn't come until mid 80s I believe), especially if you duo with another veno or even a cleric.
But meh. Good luck.

tweakz

Cookie_Doe - Heavens Tear wrote: »

yeah but it all adds up. I dont know if it makes me greedy but, if i spend 10k on teleing and make back 20k i could have had 30k o_o if i didnt tele xD...maybe i am greedy lmao.

It went right over your head. Instead of making 30k, you could have made 60 in the same amount of time.

Buying and selling SoF / PF was part of how I got mine.

MonsterTamer - Dreamweaver

I am a level 50 veno and I am wondering if I should just grind the levels to get more coin, and do I sell my mats at a catshop every night to make a good profit. I don't know why but I am having, not a hard time, but it seems so easy to some people to make coins while I'm only making enough for skills, crazy stone quests, and equipment. I really want to save up for a herc and/or a nix. -sorry if this is the wrong place to put it.

Lythiaana - Dreamweaver

MonsterTamer - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I am a level 50 veno and I am wondering if I should just grind the levels to get more coin, and do I sell my mats at a catshop every night to make a good profit. I don't know why but I am having, not a hard time, but it seems so easy to some people to make coins while I'm only making enough for skills, crazy stone quests, and equipment. I really want to save up for a herc and/or a nix. -sorry if this is the wrong place to put it.

Well, hopefully you've been saving up since you were lvl 1 when you were planning to get a herc or nix. These pets take time and effort and don't worry about it. At your level, that are very good places to gather mats while grinding for money. And make sure you're spending only on things you need. And sometimes if you feel you are leveling too fast, just make some genies, dump exp into them so you can remain at a certain level to grind at that certain spot for days. I did that and gained over a 1mil in around 2 days grinding

Solandri - Heavens Tear

Cookie_Doe - Heavens Tear wrote: »

yeah but it all adds up. I dont know if it makes me greedy but, if i spend 10k on teleing and make back 20k i could have had 30k o_o if i didnt tele xD...maybe i am greedy lmao.

Yeah, a lot of people make the mistake of thinking like that.

You have to think in terms of time. If you have 1 hour to play, how do you make the most money? Pay 10k to teleport and spend the next 59 minutes grinding? Or spend 10 minutes flying and grind for only 50 minutes?

If you can make 200k/hr while grinding, 59 minutes gets you 197k. 50 minutes gets you 167k. So:

Teleporting: 197k - 10k = 187k net.
Flying: 167k net

You make more money teleporting. I only run/fly if I know I'm going afk to do stuff around the house, or if I want to waste time chatting with friends.

Adversary - Sanctuary

You should play the market, look what sells good, and for how much it goes.
loads of times people buy stuff in ah, while it's cheaper to buy gold and and then buy it from the cash shop.

take your advantage of that. In the beginning you will be able to buy 1 gold every time, and make little profit. later you'll be able to buy more in once and make more profit that way
while your stuff is selling itslef in ah, you can go grind/quest/farm and make your profit bigger

thunde88

Dont a herc cost 100 million coin +?

How do you get so much money. For me its hard to even sell/buy mats for 1 million

Akumugetzu - Lost City

Hey I have a question to, since this thread is about herc.

I want to get a Herc way back when I was around level 50. I tried to grind but got tried of It and gave up. My friend told me to wait and farm HH. So long story short im here today at level 68 without many quests and tons of free time to grind (and a full bank of items that I plan to empty at level 70.)
SO, my question is this should I try to get Herc?
Right now I'm focusing on get skills leveled, leveling my pets, and framing ult sub mats for HH70. Im do this right? Also can someone tell me good mobs to grind? The ones in swamp of the wraiths are really good right now (most have decent drops rates, however most agro easily and I know I have to be careful.) thanks for any help.

mightymoose

Solandri - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Yeah, a lot of people make the mistake of thinking like that.

You have to think in terms of time. If you have 1 hour to play, how do you make the most money? Pay 10k to teleport and spend the next 59 minutes grinding? Or spend 10 minutes flying and grind for only 50 minutes?

If you can make 200k/hr while grinding, 59 minutes gets you 197k. 50 minutes gets you 167k. So:

Teleporting: 197k - 10k = 187k net.
Flying: 167k net

You make more money teleporting. I only run/fly if I know I'm going afk to do stuff around the house, or if I want to waste time chatting with friends.

I don't believe it's a mistake. It's more a matter of how you play. I consider playtime as time you spend in front of your computer actively playing the game. When you fly, you can be afk doing other things. Also, at the OP's level, 100k is prob more appropriate for an hour of grinding.

So if you actively play an hour but fly while afk for free, you make 100k.
But if you actively play an hour but you use 10k for teleporting, you make 90k.

Now if you actively play 1/2 hour but fly while afk for free, you make 50k.
But if you actively play 1/2 hour but you use 10k for teleporting, you make 40k.

Anyways, irrespective of how long you play or how much you can make per hour of non-stop grinding, you will end up making more money per hour of active play if you fly afk as opposed to teleporting. It's all a matter of how you play.

tweakz

MonsterTamer - Dreamweaver wrote: »

crazy stone quests

Haven't people figured out that this is a coin sink yet? I wouldn't even waste time on World Quest or BH.

_Leiian_ - Heavens Tear

atm herc costs about 70 mil, it's almost impossible get it in game, if u dont play too much.
when u've got herc, u're rich,btw. ^^

Solandri - Heavens Tear

mightymoose wrote: »

I don't believe it's a mistake. It's more a matter of how you play. I consider playtime as time you spend in front of your computer actively playing the game. When you fly, you can be afk doing other things. Also, at the OP's level, 100k is prob more appropriate for an hour of grinding.

Why do people who don't believe this always come up with biased situations trying to refute it? I deliberately picked 200k/hr since 10k teleports don't show up until FB79. By the time you're 79, 200k/hr should be easy, and 300-400k/hr possible. I deliberately lowballed the amount of money you make grinding to try to favor the person not teleporting, making it harder to prove my case.

At the OP's level, 3k-6k for teleporting is more typical. If you want to go with 100k/hr (note: My level 30 veno and cleric made 150k/hr in the grinding tests I did), then go with 5k for teleporting. Don't mix and match unrealistic numbers to try to favor your argument.

So if you actively play an hour but fly while afk for free, you make 100k.
But if you actively play an hour but you use 10k for teleporting, you make 90k.

Now if you actively play 1/2 hour but fly while afk for free, you make 50k.
But if you actively play 1/2 hour but you use 10k for teleporting, you make 40k.

Generally, people play games to actively play. Not to set up a task, then go away to watch TV or wash dishes for a half hour. I'm not one to tell people what they do with their free time, but it seems a tad self-contradictory to tell people the best way to play the game is by not playing the game.

Assuming playing the game is your primary intent, you will get the most enjoyment and most money by teleporting. If you have other RL tasks to do that evening, yes, of course try to squeeze them in while flying instead of teleporting. But waiting for your character to finish flying when you want to be playing the game is quite simply a waste of your time and a loss of money.

mightymoose

Solandri - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Why do people who don't believe this always come up with biased situations trying to refute it?

Maybe it's because it's not so biased? Maybe a lot of peeps fly long distances afk?

I deliberately picked 200k/hr since 10k teleports don't show up until FB79. By the time you're 79, 200k/hr should be easy, and 300-400k/hr possible. I deliberately lowballed the amount of money you make grinding to try to favor the person not teleporting, making it harder to prove my case.

At the OP's level, 3k-6k for teleporting is more typical. If you want to go with 100k/hr (note: My level 30 veno and cleric made 150k/hr in the grinding tests I did), then go with 5k for teleporting. Don't mix and match unrealistic numbers to try to favor your argument.

I didn't mix and match. I am using the 10k teleport cost based on what the op said. I simply said that 100k per hr is more realistic for the op's level. Even if I had used 200k in the example, it would show the exact same thing, that you end up making more based on your active playtime if you fly afk.

Generally, people play games to actively play. Not to set up a task, then go away to watch TV or wash dishes for a half hour. I'm not one to tell people what they do with their free time, but it seems a tad self-contradictory to tell people the best way to play the game is by not playing the game.

Most people I play with goes afk when they fly long distances. So do I. I'm simply stating the fact that if you fly afk, then you're actually making more money per hour of active play. I don't believe I ever told people to go afk. That's why I said it's all a matter of how you play the game. On the otherhand, you're the one who's trying to tell people how to play the game by telling people to use teleport. Ironic huh?

Assuming playing the game is your primary intent, you will get the most enjoyment and most money by teleporting. If you have other RL tasks to do that evening, yes, of course try to squeeze them in while flying instead of teleporting. But waiting for your character to finish flying when you want to be playing the game is quite simply a waste of your time and a loss of money.

Like I said, you're not wasting time or losing money if you fly afk since you can do other things. I certainly don't sit in front of the computer and stare at the screen for 5 mins while my toon is flying.

I'm guessing from your reply that you treat gaming like a job. Most of us don't. I go afk all the time when I play (when soloing of course) to watch tv, chat with people irl, go for muchies, etc. It's just a game, you don't have to allocate a few hours for gaming and strap yourself in front of your computer and do nothing else. I may be logged on for a few hrs and actually play maybe less than an hour total. It's all a matter of how you play.

tweakz

_Leiian_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »

atm herc costs about 70 mil, it's almost impossible get it in game, if u dont play too much.
when u've got herc, u're rich,btw. ^^

That's really not much at all for higher levels. Equips and skills are costing up to half that much each and aren't worth as much. Play time has little to do with it as it's simply an excuse for those that want to be up with the rest while not putting in the time.

SirJinger - Lost City

i'm not high enough level yet to understand how much coin a 80 or 90+ player makes daily XP, probably a lot more than a 70 cleric lol.
and i know a veno who got a herc with just ingame coins. i think she siphoned it off her 90+ cleric though >>
but imo fashion is useless and a huge waste of your money, unless you have mils on top of mils to blow. also, i don't think buying a mount is worth it. maybe i haven't heard of something good about them or what, but having faster flight equips is better. if you fly high enough you won't run into any monsters etc. not sure if you auto dodge mobs on mounts, but there's also terrain to think about.

_Leiian_ - Heavens Tear

tweakz wrote: »

That's really not much at all for higher levels. Equips and skills are costing up to half that much each and aren't worth as much. Play time has little to do with it as it's simply an excuse for those that want to be up with the rest while not putting in the time.

70 mils are always too much.
And to reach higher lvls, u need time, too.
And if u reach higher lvls, u need good gears/armor/weap. So, u need other coins.
And u'll always need 70 mils for herc.
(From 80 to 90, how are u think to lvl? rb until 85, and ff from 85 to 90, these are the best ways to lvl up, cuz u dont need coins to do them, and u make a lot of coins to pay repair and earn also something.
And u need about 3hours for rb, and 1-2 hours for ff.

Or, if u dont do those things, u must do bh. And bh need coins for wine split and/or time to dig mats. Always u need time.)

So, if u've no time to play, u wont have herc.
Just this.

And when u'll got herc, finally, the game will be boring for u, and u'll become so tired to play, that u'd like to stop playing. But...u've got Herc, u're on right way to be really OP, why stop? and the game becomes a drug. ^^

The best thing should be that herc's cost return of about 20-30 mil coins.

cutetrini

Cookie_Doe - Heavens Tear wrote: »

There are no 7 elevens or watever those stores r called in jamaica (where i live) and even if there were i still wudnt spend that much doe on it.

I live in Trinidad and you don't need a 7 eleven. If you have an international credit card, then you can buy gold directly from the website, that's what I did, cause most ppl buy stuff from the boutique for 2 resons:

a) personal use (what I do, cause my in game gold is for my spells, armour and weapons only)

b) to make profit

Of course there are always exceptions to the rule where once in while you get a slamming deal, so weigh your options and decide what works for you!

HealthPotion - Raging Tide

Yes, I would say easiest way.
FARM Herbs and Mats and sell!!
You could also set up like a CS shop. The ones where you sell the Stones for CrazyStone Quest, and you just up the price ALIL so each stone you sell you get a 10-50 coin benifit. But then again you will need a HUGE amount of stones to see a gain.

Cookie_Doe - Heavens Tear

tweakz wrote: »

Haven't people figured out that this is a coin sink yet? I wouldn't even waste time on World Quest or BH.

I agree with cs being a coin sink, maybe BH for clerics because of having to prepare for buying pots and such plus the time that is lost that could have been spent merchanting or grinding etc.

Aniella - Harshlands

I know one how got herc by farm subs..and sell them 50k each.
to get 70m u need 1,4k subs.. so if u make 10-11 subs everyday u will have 5m about 7 days.
>_< so 8hr farming everyday..u will fast get bored LOL

Myalt - Raging Tide

Yes, I only spent 20 dollars on this game and got fashion and mount. I saved up for Herc on my Archer by grinding and selling TT mats (I was TTing a lot with my faction / friends). Plus I always hunt for underpriced items and re-sell them for more (example: just found Hellfire drake today for 5.5mil, I sold it for 7mil = 1.5mil profit!!!). Took me about 3 months, and I made my Veno when I had all the SoF, so my Herc is the same lvl. ^^

Yindra - Sanctuary

Aniella - Harshlands wrote: »

I know one how got herc by farm subs..and sell them 50k each.

Hm... what's a sub?

Doesn't really sound like a good way to make-money-fast, but depending on the droprate of these... 50k finances 2 Crazy Stones, at least on my level (if it still does, haven't done them in a while). Meaning you only need 1 sub every 2 days, or 4 subs to cover the week so you don't have to farm on workdays.

Aniella - Harshlands

Yindra - Sanctuary wrote: »

Hm... what's a sub?

Doesn't really sound like a good way to make-money-fast, but depending on the droprate of these... 50k finances 2 Crazy Stones, at least on my level (if it still does, haven't done them in a while). Meaning you only need 1 sub every 2 days, or 4 subs to cover the week so you don't have to farm on workdays.

lol subs made by mats..xD lol u find those mats in 40+ places..need 5 of each to make 1 sub ..if u got mount u make 1 subs in 10-15m

Orisu - Heavens Tear

I spent half of my herc fund with in-game coins. Granted, I spent 100 bucks on half my battle pet packs and half of my SOF was given to me. I still got myself up to 4000 SOF by just in-game money. So, in all, I spent 100mil and 100 dollars on my herc. b:surrender But, of course I got mine when Anni packs were out and gold was 600k a piece and SOF was 10k a piece..

I think the best way to get SOF, is to do TT's and grind alot and everytime you get money buy SOF one orb at a time. b:laugh It's hard work and alot of effort, but it's deff worth it! Think of all the money you'll get back with it. b:pleased