Can we stop the bh's

Fruakomi - Heavens Tear
Fruakomi - Heavens Tear Posts: 44 Arc User
edited March 2010 in Suggestion Box
Can we eliminate the bounty hunter's and crazy stone and substitute it for something else but keep it to a minimum. The reason why I'm saying this is because I have lately found myself in the position where I'm with players who don't know how to use there skills and or do not have them up to date because they think that there priority is to level instead of getting there quest done. Also not only are that but because of the constant demand of Bh's people are now obsessively farming mats to create wines for sale when I need them to level my crafting skills. Another reason why I would say to remove these dailies is because I'm seeing to many people in the high lvls. I would like to be in a game where it is a challenge and not have everything handed to me for instance the boutique or dailies that make me power lvl.

Now about the games user interface should be changed. I think that if we could increase the amount of slots on the action bars could be a bit more awesome. Or maybe an option that let's us add as many as we want and customize the length of the slots. Also The option's menu should be moved to a drop down menu that should be activated when you press a button that is next to the maps iris.

I would also suggest that the price for the perfect iron hammer to please be lowered to atleast 1 gold so that it can coupe to the latest gold prices. These are just some of the things that seem to bother me and I'm pretty sure that there are plenty of other people who think just like me.
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  • jaeseu
    jaeseu Posts: 420 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    >:P You should know what to expect people to reply to you on the dailies-- "if you don't like 'em, don't use 'em." I see your point though. Honestly, I'm quite angry with BH and stuff, though I still do them from time to time if I have nothing else to do...and I think it's a better alternative to grinding, though at times it could be very expensive. I wish that maybe there was just one BH a day instead of three...maybe save some time for people from staying in those instances all day. Tired of my friends always in one and can't do anymore fun things like we used to. Hell, some already quit the game due to being stressed from the overflow of requests to join squads for BH constantly...

    Anyway...as to seeing too many people in the high levels...-shrugs- you can't expect everyone to be in their 20s, 30s, and etc forever. Some people happened to take the easy route and achieve that goal while others, like you it seems, rather take the long road. Let those who want to level quickly use those dailies to an advantage (and some people don't have time to play much so this is good for them), and if you want a challenge, simply don't use any of those dailies, or just use them as you see fit.

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    I think customizing the action bars to however many slots/rows we want is a good idea; no other comment on that. xD

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    I don't think the Hammer should be 1 gold...but I do think 5 gold is rather ridiculous seeing that you have to have two of them if you want to open that supply box thing; and many more if you want to open other junk.
  • Yulk - Heavens Tear
    Yulk - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,951 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I am also angry with BHs as well... I don't think PWI devs will do it... Its about marketing. Quite frankly you'd do the same if you were the people taking advantage of the BH noobs as long as you earn money. If fail people want to be high LVL so bad let them, sooner or later they will fail hard. Even though I am angry with it, I am taking advantage of the spirit gaining.

    PWI staff and the people who are taking advantage of BH quests are helpful with marketing. As long as people are buying it, good for the staff. Try to encourage people to not do BH and get tempted to do it. That will help.

    As for the perfect hammer, I think its a good idea for it to be lowered. Cash shop / ingame wise is kind of not worth bothering with unless desperate measures in cash shop.
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  • Kaneharo - Dreamweaver
    Kaneharo - Dreamweaver Posts: 327 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    It isn't the BHs... It's the oracles. The BHs at least force you to learn how to play your class, or not many will squad with you. If anything, if you don't wanna see a lot of fail squads, try to figure out a way to teach the failures.
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  • Fruakomi - Heavens Tear
    Fruakomi - Heavens Tear Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    BH
    The oracles is not something I would complain about because that is something you have to buy to get with gold. Now as for the BH's it's not that they don't give good exp & sp but I think it's way to much. I won't deny the fact that I do them sometimes but it's just annoying that I have to help a lvl 70+ archer do her TT 1-1 when she should have had it done at 60. Not only that encounter myself with a barb that is higher than me but doesn't have there tanking skills up to date, or a barb that has 4k hp with buffs and is lvl 60. Clerics that don't have there healing skills up to date. Then you have these new tideborns who think that there just so awesome and high lvl that they are invincible. You know this is aggravating, I just wish people could understand that power lvling is not good, not matter what the excuse because I don't have much time to play either and I know for a fact that power lvling is not good.

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    Now I also thought of some other customizations but class specific. For example when clerics heal tanks they can't see what the tank is attacking and if your fighting a boss that aoe's at certain lvls of hp or spawns mobs at certain lvls of hp they wouldn't know when to do Blue Bubble or to cast a a squad heal before that happens. Give an aggro meter for all classes so that they can know when they have aggro or getting close to stealing it from tank or or other players. That I think would be something good.
  • Vorhs - Lost City
    Vorhs - Lost City Posts: 521 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    i totally agree with you, devs are ruining this game... better if they change things soon or better if we leave for another mmorpg
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  • Elronia - Heavens Tear
    Elronia - Heavens Tear Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Another big problem with the BH's

    When I started playing PW an FB was kinda sacred. You could always get a party an good party to run em even if your guild didnt have the fire power to run it themselves.

    Now with BH's an FB which i might remind you is an essential part of charachter development is put to the back of everybodies priority que.

    Why? cos every body in a BH powerlevelling as fast as they can. You go on these BH's an power through em for stupid amounts of XP an spirit. You dont have an incentive too go on an FB anymore. Thats wrong guys these quests an alot of FB's have cultie quests in there are been bumped down the cue cos people cant be botherd too help fellow guildies with the important stuff.

    A change in the XP priority is much needed. Luckyily an OP (Duke) will confirm this as he is one of my guildies. Surreal doesnt hold BH's as a priority. Esspecially with sombodies FB.
    Personally i rarely do BH's i have a guild too run.

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  • Aadi - Lost City
    Aadi - Lost City Posts: 4,449 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    LOL@lowering hammer price.

    Think for a second. Not about the supply stash, about the coin boxes that are worth nothing right now. Say hammers were lowered to one gold. Suddenly, opening the boxes becomes insanely profitable! People buy up all the gold to open the tons of boxes they have. Gold shoots up to just above 1 million coin. GG.
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  • anwynd
    anwynd Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    i dont even use BHs to lvl every lvl. i do all 3 then send tht exp to a genie & wut do you no i got some good spirit lol. i would rather grind & do quests then use BH to lvl yea i might use it once in awhile to lvl. i dont mind having all the BH's its the oracles & hyper stones im worried about i wnt those out of the game but tht will never happen & about the action bar god i would luv to be able to have unlimited i hope tht gets implemented sometime soon lol
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  • GSnipes - Raging Tide
    GSnipes - Raging Tide Posts: 104 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    if u all haven't realized...
    1)devs just want us to reach higher lvs faster so that we need more coin an more stuff to make up on all those important stuff we missed out as u can just buy some zhen, sell it and TA-DAH u buy ur gears b:victory

    2) the game is already spoiled as oracles fcked it up THEN we have hypers....that is a case ALL by it self and yes i used them and i can tell u...MOST lv 90's are fail especially on RT server

    3) the GMS and devs dont care about pwi as it may seem as i hear them get slandered in WC and constantly requests, they are way to focused on the new games. they are trying 2 SQUEEZE as much out of PWI b4 the competition surpasses them an ppl leave, UNKNWIN to them its cuz of how EASY it it to lv that ppl are leaving like the 15 ppl on my friends list GG to that b:victory
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  • ElderSig - Dreamweaver
    ElderSig - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,247 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    You know, doing a unwined bh79 today changed my perspective some.

    I don't believe it's actually the bounty hunter system that's creating noobs.

    It's the wined bounty hunters that creating noobs.

    Wined BH ---> run in, kill boss for 5 minutes ---> done

    Unwined BH ---> kill tons of mobs ---> learn how to work in a squad --> finally get to boss ----> knowledge gained.

    Don't want high lvl noobs? Don't wine BHs.
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  • GSnipes - Raging Tide
    GSnipes - Raging Tide Posts: 104 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    but hwo will the gms make money??
    they put all those mats in boutique 4 a reasonb:laugh
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  • Fruakomi - Heavens Tear
    Fruakomi - Heavens Tear Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Ok we are loosing the perpictive of my topic. It's not how you do the bh's or even if you wine them. It's the bh I'm concerned about itself. We are not suppose to go in there constantly just to go and get some exp, not everyone dumps exp to genie and not everyone grinds. I used to remember before the bh's there were very few high lvl's but they knew what they were doing. Now forget about the enhancement items like esoterica, hiper exp stones & oracles because those are items that go on sale it's not that easy to obtain as to lets say a quest. I don't have to pay to do a bh I can just get the quest do it and get the exp. I'm serious about this issue it's messing up the game big time and all I see are people doing BH's to power lvl and go into some random TW guild and die to the hands to those who took the long way around and evaded the bh's.

    As for the gold prices on perfect hammer's they should be lowered. The chest coins give you a chance at getting 1m coins not 100% safe you know and they were made to control the gold prices but after anniversary packs came out prices sky rocketed. Well let's see what happens to this game in the near future...
  • Fruakomi - Heavens Tear
    Fruakomi - Heavens Tear Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    There is no problem with them making money but I don't think they should be that obvious. They should start thinking out of the box and be more creative then just adding new things to the boutique, for instance new areas in the game where if you want to access it you have to buy an expansion pack for it.
  • Kaneharo - Dreamweaver
    Kaneharo - Dreamweaver Posts: 327 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Ok we are loosing the perpictive of my topic. It's not how you do the bh's or even if you wine them. It's the bh I'm concerned about itself. We are not suppose to go in there constantly just to go and get some exp, not everyone dumps exp to genie and not everyone grinds. I used to remember before the bh's there were very few high lvl's but they knew what they were doing. Now forget about the enhancement items like esoterica, hiper exp stones & oracles because those are items that go on sale it's not that easy to obtain as to lets say a quest. I don't have to pay to do a bh I can just get the quest do it and get the exp. I'm serious about this issue it's messing up the game big time and all I see are people doing BH's to power lvl and go into some random TW guild and die to the hands to those who took the long way around and evaded the bh's.

    As for the gold prices on perfect hammer's they should be lowered. The chest coins give you a chance at getting 1m coins not 100% safe you know and they were made to control the gold prices but after anniversary packs came out prices sky rocketed. Well let's see what happens to this game in the near future...
    You'd be extremely surprised as to how easy oracles are to get. Especially if you go into west arch to buy tokens from catshops, you could easily get your hands on a few oracles. You'd be surprised to see how many people are actually cash shoppers to various degrees in this game, whether they spend $10 every few months while doing surveys in between, or dump thousands of dollars into it. And It isn't just that. A lot of the fail classes either don't read the forums on how to use their classes, are in a faction that doesn't know how to use their classes or help them learn how to use their classes, or even worse, disregard the advice of faction and forum. To put on top of such, they often are the ones who put some amount of money into the game so they can skip ahead impatiently to the top, just using BHs to boost that fact. As I've said before, doing BHs REQUIRE you to be in a squad to do them successfully for most classes, especially instances such as FB51 and 69+.
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  • Aadi - Lost City
    Aadi - Lost City Posts: 4,449 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Ok we are loosing the perpictive of my topic. It's not how you do the bh's or even if you wine them. It's the bh I'm concerned about itself. We are not suppose to go in there constantly just to go and get some exp, not everyone dumps exp to genie and not everyone grinds. I used to remember before the bh's there were very few high lvl's but they knew what they were doing. Now forget about the enhancement items like esoterica, hiper exp stones & oracles because those are items that go on sale it's not that easy to obtain as to lets say a quest. I don't have to pay to do a bh I can just get the quest do it and get the exp. I'm serious about this issue it's messing up the game big time and all I see are people doing BH's to power lvl and go into some random TW guild and die to the hands to those who took the long way around and evaded the bh's.

    As for the gold prices on perfect hammer's they should be lowered. The chest coins give you a chance at getting 1m coins not 100% safe you know and they were made to control the gold prices but after anniversary packs came out prices sky rocketed. Well let's see what happens to this game in the near future...

    I still believe that BHs give more ingame experience than people who level on Crazy Stone every day until 7x+.

    As for hammers...were you around when they first came out? Before them, gold prices were ~120k. They immediately shot up to just over 200k, because the chests give you 1 mil and they cost 5 gold to open. The only reason people don't worry about the chests as gold price raising is because the prices of gold are above 200k. The hammers already pushed up gold prices once in the exact same way that they would if hammers became 1 gold. Hello 1 mil gold b:bye

    And...buy an expansion? That may be the last day I played PWI, if I was forced to buy an expansion to get into a different part of the game.
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