Assassin's role in a squad

Psudeotrophe - Dreamweaver

There seems to be a lot of confusion towards what an assassin is supposed to do while in a party. Here's some insight so everyone can come to understand a bit better:

If you dont want to pay a wine fee, bring along a vitality or STR assassin; reason? they have the hp to aggro a LOT of mobs. Assassins are very capable of holding aggro, and not taking high damage against bosses/gank groups, so long as NO ONE ATTACKS THE MOBS THE SIN IS TRYING TO GET OUT OF YOUR WAY.

If an assassin says "Im going to aggro the boss, dont heal me, dont attack the boss" Listen to him!!! I have seen countless parties DIE, because of them attempting to follow me as I lead off a boss or cluster of mobs. I body aggro a group of mobs, run up wait for everyone to run past, then, I cloak. If no one has healed me, or attacked the mobs, they all deaggro and run back to their original starting points. If they have attacked the mobs, or healed me, then when I cloak, the mobs all seek out revenge on whomever attacked or healed. while funny, its also very annoying, especially when you see Fushma run up to the cluster of players, kill the bm, kill the DD, then run off cause no one else attacked it.

If an assassin says "Im going to kill the guard. Everyone else, head on I'll catch up." Listen to him, he can do it alone.

Its a very useful ability to be able to cloak, Please PLEASE let me use it to its fullest potential! b:cry

Evict - Heavens Tear

There was a video made to demonstrate exactly what you're trying to say.

Also, I have yet to see a str/vit based Assassin made just for this ._.

Psudeotrophe - Dreamweaver

Evict - Heavens Tear wrote: »

There was a video made to demonstrate exactly what you're trying to say.

Also, I have yet to see a str/vit based Assassin made just for this ._.

yep I've seen the vid, but I dont think a lot of people have. and my sin has enough str to wear heavy helms, typically thats enough. at my level if Im fully buffed I can tank most bosses in fb51, alone. With 3.1k hp, and quest reward armors, you can do it, trust me I do it all the time you just need to be smart with your skills, deaden nerves and focused mind

Wolfyyy - Raging Tide

No vit build please. Its a fail build. I have 53 vit right now but non of the stats come from the points I got from leveling. If you want HP, shard full citrines on all your gears ( except weapon ). You can get additional vit points by going for equipments that gives vit boost.

Imo, most of the legandary ( gold ) items for assasins point of view have sucky stats. Other than Misty Rings, the the legend daggers, majority of the gold armours are ****. 3 star items have way better stats if you do shopping over at AH everyday. And you can get them at super cheap prices ( 150k-500k ).

I've found myself a 3 star level 80 LA torso piece with 825 phy defense in total for just 200k. Now even the legend 90ish LA pieces do not have that much of phy def to offer. I've got a 3 star heavy helm that only requires 95 str compared to aqua viciousness's 105. Adds 20 lesser base HP but gives +5 vit ( similar to aqua's ) and +142 phy def ( compared to aqua's + water resistance ). I've got it at 350k.

There are better ways to get HP than to use your stat points on vit. Cap strength enough for a good HP helm and the rest should be on dex.

ShadowAyame - Raging Tide

can a sin with build of 4 dex 1 str do it too..? being squishy and all.? tnx...b:shocked

EpicDPS - Harshlands

i believe an assassin's role can vary in a squad or fb/bh

it can support the tanker by bloodpaint and sleep's and silence

it can shadow jump to mobs that ppl aggro on the run through to the boss and then deal with them solo

it can be direct damage

it can be recon? or maybe take out those annoying mobs later on in dungeon whle the party does the first load?

dodge tank for phys dmg bosses?

lol it will take aggro just as quick as an archer but it's closer to the barb xD (archers stay near clerics >.>)

as far as the "pull all the mobs and shadow escape2 that is a glitch and will probably get shadow escape nerfed imo as to stop this from happening

ShadowAyame - Raging Tide

Im not experienced on tanking high dmg bosses... But i got the idea of how to... One thing is for sure... Sins wont tank it the usual way as barbs... Sins wont depend on just dodge... Although its an advantage... Sleep Bleed Silence Immobilize and Decrease attack rate will be supplemented during these tankings... The vampiric buff will also be a definite factor as well as deaden nerves... if done right with charm, pots, life powders, second wind, tree of protection, etc... (just to be sure) lol I think a sin can pull it off...

Sins are capable of doing more than meets the eye... So let us join squads already...b:angryb:chuckleb:victory

Amorzka - Harshlands

What about holding things in place with Tackling Slash and slowing the attack rate?

I mean reducing the attack rate would really reduce the overall damage taken, wouldn't it?

Psudeotrophe - Dreamweaver

Wolfyyy - Raging Tide wrote: »

No vit build please. Its a fail build. I have 53 vit right now but non of the stats come from the points I got from leveling. If you want HP, shard full citrines on all your gears ( except weapon ). You can get additional vit points by going for equipments that gives vit boost.

Imo, most of the legandary ( gold ) items for assasins point of view have sucky stats. Other than Misty Rings, the the legend daggers, majority of the gold armours are ****. 3 star items have way better stats if you do shopping over at AH everyday. And you can get them at super cheap prices ( 150k-500k ).

I've found myself a 3 star level 80 LA torso piece with 825 phy defense in total for just 200k. Now even the legend 90ish LA pieces do not have that much of phy def to offer. I've got a 3 star heavy helm that only requires 95 str compared to aqua viciousness's 105. Adds 20 lesser base HP but gives +5 vit ( similar to aqua's ) and +142 phy def ( compared to aqua's + water resistance ). I've got it at 350k.

There are better ways to get HP than to use your stat points on vit. Cap strength enough for a good HP helm and the rest should be on dex.

funny thing you said that cause theres not much difference between damage on a vit str and pure dex assassin

the stat quote is actually quite amusing but here ya go

Level 70 sin with evil stare dual daggers (if stats maxed) full TT70 LA before Dagger devotion:

Pure Dex: 1893 - 2472
with 20 vit(not with str): 1814 - 2368
With 11 vit and 105 str: 1746 - 2280
Crit chance: Dex: 19 Vit: 18 Str: 17
HP Regen out of combat:
Dex: 5
Str: 12
Vit 25
HP regen in combat:
Dex: 0
Str: 3
Vit: 8

HP:
Pure Dex: 1949
STR: 2307
Vit: 2432


Damage quote only differs by a negligable 200 points but as you can see the hp quote is far from simple.

Falzar_King - Lost City

Here how I see this and Im not even a good Assassin player.
The Assassins arggo mob's/Boss's. To allow the other get by with out problem's, and not worry about the assassin cause after they pass by safely. If the Assassin leveled Shadow Escape/Shadow Walk and the Awareness. They can use that as a sure get away and regrouping with the party so the cleric does not have to run there and make the party fight the mobs/boss.

Slashreaver - Heavens Tear

sins are simple enough. dish out as much damage as possible. if you get boss argo stealth out it will go back to the tank.