Class Vs Class (40Vs40)

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  • LordPangu - Harshlands
    LordPangu - Harshlands Posts: 413 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Nanannana - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Funny how i only see a bunch of kylin clerics named.
    acrelar > siochain & fatality while his gear is pretty basic.

    should siochain and f_tality be on that list? nope.

    WHOS METAXXA?

    You have no ideia of what your talking about. Despite (Acrelar) being one of the first few 1xx clerics he is by no means the best when it comes to PvP, and I can ensure you that F_tality is better than him. And Metaxxa is a 1xx Crimson cleric that I didnt know until I joined Crimson and she is very good too.

    And it is unfortunate that most of the best Clerics are in Kylin, but of the ones I mentioned only DoomKaser was mentioned without me not knowing about his skills, purely based on his gears.
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  • Szol - Harshlands
    Szol - Harshlands Posts: 242 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    id love to see some pvp tournaments like 6vs6 or 12 vs 12 - with the teams made up like u want

    not too many participating on each side , makes it more entertaining then tabbing and smashing keys
  • Acrelar - Harshlands
    Acrelar - Harshlands Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    LordPangu - Harshlands wrote: »
    You have no ideia of what your talking about. Despite (Acrelar) being one of the first few 1xx clerics he is by no means the best when it comes to PvP, and I can ensure you that F_tality is better than him. And Metaxxa is a 1xx Crimson cleric that I didnt know until I joined Crimson and she is very good too.

    I wonder how you can ensure that F_tality is better than me when I never pvp'd against you and barely fought him a couple days ago for the first time that he's on the same level. Metaxxa I've never seen pvp and I recall hearing that Siochain just plainly doesn't pvp outside of TW.

    Not that I care much what a lvl 89 mage thinks about me. If you're not 9x you can't really tell a lot about endgame pvp, no offense. :)

    and thanks nananana for standing up for me whoever you are b:cute
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  • Taboo - Harshlands
    Taboo - Harshlands Posts: 1,420 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    LordPangu - Harshlands wrote: »
    Not too sure about faildom and bkeno but the venos you mentioned against BigDin, Siocchain, F_tality, Metaxxa and Doomkaiser would probably lose.

    EDIT: or better, BigDin alone and some random 95+ clerics

    F_tality is not good at all, siocchain does not pvp, and ive never even heard of metaxxa. Replace those 3 with like....acrelar, miata, and i cant even think of a 3rd worth mentioning in the same sentence with the prior 2.
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  • LordPangu - Harshlands
    LordPangu - Harshlands Posts: 413 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Acrelar - Harshlands wrote: »
    I wonder how you can ensure that F_tality is better than me when I never pvp'd against you and barely fought him a couple days ago for the first time that he's on the same level. Metaxxa I've never seen pvp and I recall hearing that Siochain just plainly doesn't pvp outside of TW.

    Not that I care much what a lvl 89 mage thinks about me. If you're not 9x you can't really tell a lot about endgame pvp, no offense. :)

    and thanks nananana for standing up for me whoever you are b:cute

    No offense but its a bit ignorant to base ones knowledge about endgame PvP according to its level or class. Ive seen you PvP be4, and seeing you I can say how good or bad you are comparing to ppl that Ive fought alongside with (F_tality in this case), and I didnt even mention Siocchain being better than u in PvP. Not like this game requires a very deep study to understand its PvP or something cause its pretty straightforward, and I hope your not like one dude/chick that said you need 5 years to learn your class. b:thanks
    Taboo - Harshlands wrote: »
    F_tality is not good at all, siocchain does not pvp, and ive never even heard of metaxxa. Replace those 3 with like....acrelar, miata, and i cant even think of a 3rd worth mentioning in the same sentence with the prior 2.

    Well Im not here to have discussions about ppl that have nothing to do with the topic but I can tell you that F_tality is good, since Ive known him since Karma and seen him in action plenty of times. Dont get me wrong, thats only my opinion and in no way my favorites, Miata for instance is good and Acrelar is not bad at all.
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  • Acrelar - Harshlands
    Acrelar - Harshlands Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    LordPangu - Harshlands wrote: »
    No offense but its a bit ignorant to base ones knowledge about endgame PvP according to its level or class. .

    Feel free to ask anyone. Endgame is different. It's got nothing to do with ignorance, it's not like I wasn't in the lower levels so I know how it is. Archers rocked everyone at 6x. BMs and Barbs with calamities killed everything at 70. Nixvenos with lvl 5 bleed at lvl 80 just ***** arcane and LA and didn't have much trouble killing HA either. 95+ pvp changes playstyles again. So unless you have an endgame character on this server (not on another one cause then you can't compare people's skill on this server to one another), please don't say I'm ignorant ;)

    I agree though that pvp in this game is nothing that takes 5 years to master.
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  • Burnout - Harshlands
    Burnout - Harshlands Posts: 2,585 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    LordPangu - Harshlands wrote: »
    BigDin for sure is not all about good gear, he also knows very well how to stay alive and kill. I wonder why DoomKaiser with rank8 is nearly innexistant in front of BigDin rank6 weapon, and that for sure has nothing to do with gear. Metaxxa also is far from being the most cashopped, not even close to it but Metax is very good.

    Doomkaiser is built like a mage...Rank 8 wep but crappy hp and p. def...and he's probably pure mag to boot...that would be deadly on a mage but it's useless on a cleric b:surrender
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  • Nurfed - Harshlands
    Nurfed - Harshlands Posts: 238 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    LordPangu - Harshlands wrote: »
    Not too sure about faildom and bkeno but the venos you mentioned against BigDin, Siocchain, F_tality, Metaxxa and Doomkaiser would probably lose.

    EDIT: or better, BigDin alone and some random 95+ clerics

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    you sir, have no idea what your talking about here.
  • LordPangu - Harshlands
    LordPangu - Harshlands Posts: 413 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Nurfed - Harshlands wrote: »
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    you sir, have no idea what your talking about here.

    My phrase is not properly worded, I meant "Im not too sure about Faildom and Bkeno skills being good and all the venos mentioned would prolly lose agaisnt ..."
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  • Taboo - Harshlands
    Taboo - Harshlands Posts: 1,420 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Btw, about bigdin and dooms gear....doom may have a slightly better weapon, but din's armor and ornaments blow everyone on this server out of the water. Im pretty sure if din pulled catas for kylin, he would be the hardest one to kill, its kind of nuts if you ask me lol.
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  • LordPangu - Harshlands
    LordPangu - Harshlands Posts: 413 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Ya I agree, BigDin is very well geared and prolly one of the hardest EPs on the server to kill along with probably Siochain. If some1 kills BigDin 1v1 (as of now) pls screenshot and self-proclaim the Most skilled well geared player in HL or maybe in PWI or the Biggest cash shopper, one of those. b:surrender

    KEY WORDS: good gear, Cash shopper
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  • threepointone
    threepointone Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    LordPangu - Harshlands wrote: »
    Ya I agree, BigDin is very well geared and prolly one of the hardest EPs on the server to kill along with probably Siochain.

    You've got to be kidding me.
  • LordPangu - Harshlands
    LordPangu - Harshlands Posts: 413 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    threepointone wrote: »
    You've got to be kidding me.

    Im not b:chuckle
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  • Tryagain - Harshlands
    Tryagain - Harshlands Posts: 716 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    BigDin is not hard to kill, because he doesn't use plume shell or heal. He has no idea how to play his class. Neither does Doom.

    Siochan is very easy to kill as well.

    I've never heard of Metaxxxa or seen F_tality do anything. In terms of Kylin your best clerics are Teisha and TaiShang.
  • Acrelar - Harshlands
    Acrelar - Harshlands Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Ya TaiShang is pretty good. Haven't seen him around lately though, does he still play? or is that just a timezone thing with me again.. and cataclerics don't really see much of eachother in tw when in opposing factions so no idea how well any of the cataclerics in Kylin are.
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  • Paimage - Harshlands
    Paimage - Harshlands Posts: 1,017 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Tryagain - Harshlands wrote: »
    BigDin is not hard to kill, because he doesn't use plume shell or heal. He has no idea how to play his class. Neither does Doom.

    Siochan is very easy to kill as well.

    I've never heard of Metaxxxa or seen F_tality do anything. In terms of Kylin your best clerics are Teisha and TaiShang.

    BigDin not hard to kill? no plume shell or no heal? no idea how to play his class? omg u hav NO IDEA of what you are talking about lol Well thats prob cuz u rarely pvp against him(or against any1) but saying that is totally bs, jus go ask the KD members that try to kill him in both TW and open pvp before u say hes not hard to kill... Siochain is even harder to kill then BigDin and actually, both of em are the hardest clerics to kill in HL and Im sure most ppl that have seen em in action will agree with me. F_tality is a very good cleric, in pvp better then most KD clerics(or prob better then any including u, Acrelar good but dont know if hes in KD) and I must say that Teisha and Taishang are also very skilled. Unfortunately I havent teamed up with Metaxxxa enough to giv a clear opinion about how good she is.
  • Scarlet - Harshlands
    Scarlet - Harshlands Posts: 236 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    LordPangu - Harshlands wrote: »
    Ive seen you PvP be4, and seeing you I can say how good or bad you are comparing to ppl that Ive fought alongside with (F_tality in this case)

    The relativity between seeing someone in PVP action and fighting alongside them tips off a scale with a huge margin. Seeing flashing lights, or surrounding feathers when a cleric engages in PVP does not even encompass the amount of skill required combining one’s offensive and defensive skills.

    Which brings me to a point that your conclusion of "how good or bad someone is comparing to ppl that you’ve fought alongside with" is nothing but oh-so predisposed. Furthermore, making such judgment is well hypocritical. Have you yourself fought alongside Acrelar? If not, then consider your point of proof bullish.

    Considering that from the point of this post onwards, what occurs is your discussion with others, I cannot bother reading further. I'll just be expecting more of your baffling reasoning.

    And yes, hello Harshlands Forums. Been a long time.

    ~S
  • Szol - Harshlands
    Szol - Harshlands Posts: 242 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    so sad ,
    a nice thread turned into flame war whos best cleric....


    well didnt expect anythig else from hl forums tbh


    so can we plz get back to topic? i still think it might be a nice idea . to get some more movement into hl
  • Paimage - Harshlands
    Paimage - Harshlands Posts: 1,017 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Szol - Harshlands wrote: »
    so sad ,
    a nice thread turned into flame war whos best cleric....


    well didnt expect anythig else from hl forums tbh


    so can we plz get back to topic? i still think it might be a nice idea . to get some more movement into hl

    Well ye thats not a bad idea, but 40 nixes vs any 40 classes will win. And why not having a guild vs guild with 40 ppl in a designated location to c whos the best at pvp? Would b far more fun xD
  • Flanders - Harshlands
    Flanders - Harshlands Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Paimage - Harshlands wrote: »
    Well ye thats not a bad idea, but 40 nixes vs any 40 classes will win. And why not having a guild vs guild with 40 ppl in a designated location to c whos the best at pvp? Would b far more fun xD

    Or how about you just get the whole server together somewhere and have a circle jerk? I don't see how you guys get all "giddy" over 10vs10 or 40vs40...you have TW.
  • Taboo - Harshlands
    Taboo - Harshlands Posts: 1,420 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    TW is 80 vs 80, and if you are doing it correctly at all it shouldnt feel like a pk war in the least bit. 80 vs 80 is way too many people imo, same with 40 vs 40. although, i guess my guild wars backround has spoiled me as far as highly skilled, fun pvp goes.
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  • Ligeia - Harshlands
    Ligeia - Harshlands Posts: 1,144 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    LordPangu - Harshlands wrote: »
    Ya I agree, BigDin is very well geared and prolly one of the hardest EPs on the server to kill along with probably Siochain.
    BigDin is hard to kill mainly because his damage output forces you to play too defensively to overcome his defense. In group PvP he dies pretty quickly, and it seems like he doesn't have good field awareness.
    Siochain is just a base buffer in world PvP, which is a good role for someone with fully 4-socketed +7 armor and a +10 weapon. In TW, I target her first because she's the easiest healing Cleric in Kylin to kill besides Kismet.
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  • Paimage - Harshlands
    Paimage - Harshlands Posts: 1,017 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Ligeia - Harshlands wrote: »
    BigDin is hard to kill mainly because his damage output forces you to play too defensively to overcome his defense. In group PvP he dies pretty quickly, and it seems like he doesn't have good field awareness.
    Siochain is just a base buffer in world PvP, which is a good role for someone with fully 4-socketed +7 armor and a +10 weapon. In TW, I target her first because she's the easiest healing Cleric in Kylin to kill besides Kismet.

    you target her first cuz shes the easiest to kill? wouldnt my entire squad targets her first b more appropriate in this case cuz Im sure u would get killed by her if u atked her alone xD

    EDIT: Forgot to say, in pvp I havent seen any cleric surviving as much as BigDin so u r totally wrong there too. I pvped alongside BigDin and even most ppl that try to pvp against him say hes beast. I rarely have seen u pvp so its understandable that u wouldnt know that but most of the group pvp I do, BigDin is usually the last person to die in my squad.
  • Ligeia - Harshlands
    Ligeia - Harshlands Posts: 1,144 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Paimage - Harshlands wrote: »
    you target her first cuz shes the easiest to kill? wouldnt my entire squad targets her first b more appropriate in this case cuz Im sure u would get killed by her if u atked her alone xD
    ... Are we talking about the same Siochain? I'm talking about the one I used to Sharptooth, stun, freeze and then autoshot until it died nearly every TW I attended against Kylin. Which one are you talking about?
    EDIT: Forgot to say, in pvp I havent seen any cleric surviving as much as BigDin so u r totally wrong there too. I pvped alongside BigDin and even most ppl that try to pvp against him say hes beast. I rarely have seen u pvp so its understandable that u wouldnt know that but most of the group pvp I do, BigDin is usually the last person to die in my squad.
    Mali and I drop BigDin in about five seconds, who are you PvP'ing against that's so horrible as to not prioritize the Cleric?
    You probably don't see me PvP much because I don't hang out at West Gate all day.
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  • LordPangu - Harshlands
    LordPangu - Harshlands Posts: 413 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Ligeia - Harshlands wrote: »
    ... Are we talking about the same Siochain? I'm talking about the one I used to Sharptooth, stun, freeze and then autoshot until it died nearly every TW I attended against Kylin. Which one are you talking about?

    Mali and I drop BigDin in about five seconds, who are you PvP'ing against that's so horrible as to not prioritize the Cleric?

    Drop BigDin in 5 secs with Mali? rofl
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  • Flanders - Harshlands
    Flanders - Harshlands Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Taboo - Harshlands wrote: »
    TW is 80 vs 80, and if you are doing it correctly at all it shouldnt feel like a pk war in the least bit. 80 vs 80 is way too many people imo, same with 40 vs 40. although, i guess my guild wars backround has spoiled me as far as highly skilled, fun pvp goes.

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  • Paimage - Harshlands
    Paimage - Harshlands Posts: 1,017 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Ligeia - Harshlands wrote: »
    ... Are we talking about the same Siochain? I'm talking about the one I used to Sharptooth, stun, freeze and then autoshot until it died nearly every TW I attended against Kylin. Which one are you talking about?

    Mali and I drop BigDin in about five seconds, who are you PvP'ing against that's so horrible as to not prioritize the Cleric?
    You probably don't see me PvP much because I don't hang out at West Gate all day.

    I wont go any further, I wont take what u said seriously until I have seen u doing it my own eyes or Siochain and BigDin backed up your words.
  • Tryagain - Harshlands
    Tryagain - Harshlands Posts: 716 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    this is ridiculous to be even having this argument, but I don't doubt it one bit.

    I was in 3rd past with Cristall (at the time, level 94 veno with a +4 wheel, and a level 70 nix), Athma (level 94ish fist BM with 0 points in VIT...lowest HP BM I've seen on the server, he has like 5k, and maybe a +4 weapon, but probably less), and me. All of us did not have a barb buff.

    In come BigDin, Dark_Fate, and Tigras_LT. All fully buffed. I did nothing but heal. All 3 dropped in under 30 seconds.

    I'm sure Ligeia + Mali can do a hell of a lot more damage than Cristall and Athma.
  • Paimage - Harshlands
    Paimage - Harshlands Posts: 1,017 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Tryagain - Harshlands wrote: »
    this is ridiculous to be even having this argument, but I don't doubt it one bit.

    I was in 3rd past with Cristall (at the time, level 94 veno with a +4 wheel, and a level 70 nix), Athma (level 94ish fist BM with 0 points in VIT...lowest HP BM I've seen on the server, he has like 5k, and maybe a +4 weapon, but probably less), and me. All of us did not have a barb buff.

    In come BigDin, Dark_Fate, and Tigras_LT. All fully buffed. I did nothing but heal. All 3 dropped in under 30 seconds.

    I'm sure Ligeia + Mali can do a hell of a lot more damage than Cristall and Athma.

    I want to c the 3 of u against siochain and BigDin, will b enough to drop u all.
  • Nanannana - Heavens Tear
    Nanannana - Heavens Tear Posts: 35 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Thats actually pretty funny, 3 huge cashshopped chars vs 3 non cashshop chars, no wonder cashshop will win..

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