What is the point of PVP in PWI ?

Zarrathustra - Harshlands
Zarrathustra - Harshlands Posts: 8 Arc User
edited March 2010 in Arigora Colosseum
I understand what safety lock does and why it was introduced. I also understand that equipment can be shattered as a result of dying from being Pk.d, thus there is a risk to PVP. But the question remains where is the reward ? If everyone runs arounds with safety lock on, and it sounds very much like that is what people do, what is the incentive to PVP ? You receive nothing. You take a risk and receive nothing in return.

Of course no PVP system is perfect, but this is the first game that I played that offers no reward at all. What exactly is the point of having a PVP server ? With the safety lock feature in play, what function does it serve.

I would not be an advocate of full open PVP. That type of system has been tried and failed. No one wants to be ganked endlessly and lose all their possessions, yet the system in place now, seems to me to fail miserably. Unless I am missing something.
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  • Aadi - Lost City
    Aadi - Lost City Posts: 4,449 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    You get the glory, bragging rights, and screenshots.

    Oh and sometimes some chi stones, then you get the satisfaction that they can't use whatever you shattered till they fix it I guess.
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  • Astoru - Heavens Tear
    Astoru - Heavens Tear Posts: 822 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    A nice break of the monotony of being a 10x with nothing to do?
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  • LuLu/ - Lost City5
    LuLu/ - Lost City5 Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    ....for fun
  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    nothing actually . .
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  • LuLu/ - Lost City5
    LuLu/ - Lost City5 Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    nothing actually . .

    nuh-uh..... otherwise there wouldn't be any1 on pk servers :D
  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I mean no real prize by doing it. b:surrender
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  • LuLu/ - Lost City5
    LuLu/ - Lost City5 Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    the prize is......o w8 ur right. but its still fun >.>
  • Boojangles - Lost City
    Boojangles - Lost City Posts: 153 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    pvp is the same as pve only u now have to option to kick some one **** whenever u feel
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  • Ussichu - Sanctuary
    Ussichu - Sanctuary Posts: 429 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    To let poor people who can't afford GAs to PvP with those who can, to maintain their business of GAs while punishing those who go against this
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    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    for e-peen
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  • Moog - Lost City
    Moog - Lost City Posts: 633 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Why do you play this game? For fun?
  • Alliptica - Raging Tide
    Alliptica - Raging Tide Posts: 1,545 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    the pvp in this game kinda sucks...but then again, where doesnt it suck?
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  • Jittery - Lost City
    Jittery - Lost City Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Zarrathustra - Harshlands wrote: »
    I understand what safety lock does and why it was introduced. I also understand that equipment can be shattered as a result of dying from being Pk.d, thus there is a risk to PVP. But the question remains where is the reward ? If everyone runs arounds with safety lock on, and it sounds very much like that is what people do, what is the incentive to PVP ? You receive nothing. You take a risk and receive nothing in return.

    Of course no PVP system is perfect, but this is the first game that I played that offers no reward at all. What exactly is the point of having a PVP server ? With the safety lock feature in play, what function does it serve.

    I would not be an advocate of full open PVP. That type of system has been tried and failed. No one wants to be ganked endlessly and lose all their possessions, yet the system in place now, seems to me to fail miserably. Unless I am missing something.

    lol you obviously missed the pve server you meant to click onb:chuckle most ppl go to pvp server bc its hella more fun than killing mobs allll dayyy longgg.
  • Dezzarey - Lost City
    Dezzarey - Lost City Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I am new to the game (n00bie). :)

    Which servers are just PVE? I am tired of getting my **** kicked. b:laugh
  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Dezzarey - Lost City wrote: »
    I am new to the game (n00bie). :)

    Which servers are just PVE? I am tired of getting my **** kicked. b:laugh

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  • Dezzarey - Lost City
    Dezzarey - Lost City Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Thanks! b:laugh
  • Archers_Soul - Lost City
    Archers_Soul - Lost City Posts: 746 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    the point of pvp is to spend vast amounts of money on cash shop them run around 1 shotting everyone for a cool red name, bragging rights, and to hear ppl say funny things when they die. foes from pk also make the game more fun.
    I don't care how old or young you are, how small your **** is, how much of a nerd irl you are or how depressed you are that you never will get laid. There is no reason to act like an A-hole to everyone on an mmorpg. Its a shame that I have to take time out of my day to tell people "stop being an A-hole". So I end with this, if your acting like an A-hole, and some one tells you your being an A-hole chances are your being an A-hole.
  • Yulk - Heavens Tear
    Yulk - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,951 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    The point of PVP is

    Nothing...
    Bragging...
    QQ...
    Nada...
    Zero...
    Thinking about being all that...
    Acting like their dog died when their char died...
    and what's the last one? Nothing :D

    But playing the game for fun, whatever it is. As long as they don't act like a spoiled bratty teenager, its cool :)
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  • Archers_Soul - Lost City
    Archers_Soul - Lost City Posts: 746 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    The point of PVP is

    Nothing...
    Bragging...
    QQ...
    Nada...
    Zero...
    Thinking about being all that...
    Acting like their dog died when their char died...
    and what's the last one? Nothing :D

    But playing the game for fun, whatever it is. As long as they don't act like a spoiled bratty teenager, its cool :)

    typically ppl like you forgot the word fun.
    I don't care how old or young you are, how small your **** is, how much of a nerd irl you are or how depressed you are that you never will get laid. There is no reason to act like an A-hole to everyone on an mmorpg. Its a shame that I have to take time out of my day to tell people "stop being an A-hole". So I end with this, if your acting like an A-hole, and some one tells you your being an A-hole chances are your being an A-hole.
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    point of PvP?
    teh point of it be because PvE be boring and be horribly monotonous once people reach high levels.
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  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    point of PvP?
    teh point of it be because PvE be boring and be horribly monotonous once people reach high levels.
    b:surrender
    X_x'

    PvP is even worse. I find it to be even more boring. It's always the same players doing the exact same thing every single time. Thus, they are so predictable since they never learned how to actually fight, you can beat them with your eyes closed every single time. That is not fun.

    At least grinding gets you somewhere.
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  • Nakhimov - Lost City
    Nakhimov - Lost City Posts: 1,829 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    PvP is even worse. I find it to be even more boring. It's always the same players doing the exact same thing every single time. Thus, they are so predictable since they never learned how to actually fight, you can beat them with your eyes closed every single time. That is not fun.

    At least grinding gets you somewhere.

    Quit pvping against garbage players and you won't have that problem b:surrender
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  • EpicDPS - Harshlands
    EpicDPS - Harshlands Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Zarrathustra - Harshlands wrote: »
    I understand what safety lock does and why it was introduced. I also understand that equipment can be shattered as a result of dying from being Pk.d, thus there is a risk to PVP. But the question remains where is the reward ? If everyone runs arounds with safety lock on, and it sounds very much like that is what people do, what is the incentive to PVP ? You receive nothing. You take a risk and receive nothing in return.

    Of course no PVP system is perfect, but this is the first game that I played that offers no reward at all. What exactly is the point of having a PVP server ? With the safety lock feature in play, what function does it serve.

    I would not be an advocate of full open PVP. That type of system has been tried and failed. No one wants to be ganked endlessly and lose all their possessions, yet the system in place now, seems to me to fail miserably. Unless I am missing something.



    i was lvl 42 and got two shot by a sin
    i called my irl friend who is a lvl 91 veno with nix
    he two shot the lvl 90 sin and we looted her legendary dags
    i gave them back >.>

    but yeh not everyone wears safety lock or has guardian scrolls

    there are always arrogant *lol at me dying* type ppl who never prepare for the worst lol
    loot them

    EDIT:
    i come from an mmo called RFonline (racevsrace war effort need to get a group and fight for grind spots n stuff)

    in that game u lost nothing when u died and omfg ppl were sooooo suicidal because of that lol
    the pvp system here is **** but when you do loot someone you feel ohh so good lol

    this is a CASH SHOPPERS game though my friend do not let anyone kid you otherwise
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  • Yulk - Heavens Tear
    Yulk - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,951 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Archers_Soul - Lost City wrote: »
    typically ppl like you forgot the word fun.

    I have fun squadding for bosses and AOE fun xD. People acting like snobby little brats in your face isn't. PVP can be fun, but listening to brats (yes, can happen in PVE too lol) is not worth it. b:laugh Also, I find PVE more fun on this game
    Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    PvP is even worse. I find it to be even more boring. It's always the same players doing the exact same thing every single time. Thus, they are so predictable since they never learned how to actually fight, you can beat them with your eyes closed every single time. That is not fun.

    At least grinding gets you somewhere.

    ^-- this lol but players can get unpredictable sometimes. PVE is a lot more unpredictable. People say PVE is too easy lol, but if they think thats easy, they should play a certain old game I was playing, leveling is a complete joke, you could get to 40 in a day. Make that 3 hours... and mobs only auto-attack you and EVEN BOSSES. Bosses are stunable, and warriors have AOE stun with 8 seconds and cooldown that skill of 14 seconds. PVE is really really crappy there
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  • Archers_Soul - Lost City
    Archers_Soul - Lost City Posts: 746 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I have fun squadding for bosses and AOE fun xD. People acting like snobby little brats in your face isn't. PVP can be fun, but listening to brats (yes, can happen in PVE too lol) is not worth it. b:laugh Also, I find PVE more fun on this game



    ^-- this lol but players can get unpredictable sometimes. PVE is a lot more unpredictable. People say PVE is too easy lol, but if they think thats easy, they should play a certain old game I was playing, leveling is a complete joke, you could get to 40 in a day. Make that 3 hours... and mobs only auto-attack you and EVEN BOSSES. Bosses are stunable, and warriors have AOE stun with 8 seconds and cooldown that skill of 14 seconds. PVE is really really crappy there

    did you just say that pve is more predictable that pvp? when i figth a mob i know exacrly how long its gonna take to kill it whether i crit or not. if i fight a player idk whats gonna do down.
    I don't care how old or young you are, how small your **** is, how much of a nerd irl you are or how depressed you are that you never will get laid. There is no reason to act like an A-hole to everyone on an mmorpg. Its a shame that I have to take time out of my day to tell people "stop being an A-hole". So I end with this, if your acting like an A-hole, and some one tells you your being an A-hole chances are your being an A-hole.
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    PVE is a lot more unpredictable. People say PVE is too easy lol, but if they think thats easy, they should play a certain old game I was playing, leveling is a complete joke, you could get to 40 in a day. Make that 3 hours... and mobs only auto-attack you and EVEN BOSSES. Bosses are stunable, and warriors have AOE stun with 8 seconds and cooldown that skill of 14 seconds. PVE is really really crappy there

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    xD
    *rolls on floor laughing*
    >.<'
    that basically be an insult to your own intelligence right there.
    you really think that a predictable and preprogrammed AI (Designed for entertainment as well) generally with distinguishing animations, preset timing, etc. be more unpredictable than other living creatures?

    also for those of PvE servers that think PvP be boring.....stop fighting against such bad opponents.
    b:surrender

    but seriously....ever MMORPG be easy.....
    they be designed to be easy.....
    me think you be confoosing ease with tedious boredom.
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  • Archers_Soul - Lost City
    Archers_Soul - Lost City Posts: 746 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    xD
    *rolls on floor laughing*
    >.<'
    that basically be an insult to your own intelligence right there.
    you really think that a predictable and preprogrammed AI (Designed for entertainment as well) generally with distinguishing animations, preset timing, etc. be more unpredictable than other living creatures?

    also for those of PvE servers that think PvP be boring.....stop fighting against such bad opponents.
    b:surrender

    but seriously....ever MMORPG be easy.....
    they be designed to be easy.....
    me think you be confoosing ease with tedious boredom.

    i giggle everytime i see your sig b:chuckle
    I don't care how old or young you are, how small your **** is, how much of a nerd irl you are or how depressed you are that you never will get laid. There is no reason to act like an A-hole to everyone on an mmorpg. Its a shame that I have to take time out of my day to tell people "stop being an A-hole". So I end with this, if your acting like an A-hole, and some one tells you your being an A-hole chances are your being an A-hole.
  • Yulk - Heavens Tear
    Yulk - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,951 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    also for those of PvE servers that think PvP be boring.....stop fighting against such bad opponents.
    b:surrender

    Define ownage on your server, I visited your server already. b:chuckle I don't even fight back much anyways.
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    edited February 2010
    Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Define ownage on your server, I visited your server already. b:chuckle I don't even fight back much anyways.

    ^Define ownage on your server... :P

    All you do is kill the same bosses or mob over and over with the same attacks and moves and you know what to do to kill it. Its pretty simple. (If your squad is not a faled one.)

    But, in PvP we can do all of that if what I said above and more.

    PvP is based on skill and how well you are fighting another person. Its just like fighting sone one in a online PS3 game. Its all based on skill. Not just fight the same boring CPU over and over with no fun.. at all.

    And lastly if you are a PvE server why do you have TW's that counts as PvP since its player vs player. So stop QQing abut PvP before PWI Dev's decide to change PvP ruing it for ever.

    Beside you not on a PvP server so leave us alone.. b:sweat
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    edited February 2010
    Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    PvP is even worse. I find it to be even more boring. It's always the same players doing the exact same thing every single time. Thus, they are so predictable since they never learned how to actually fight, you can beat them with your eyes closed every single time. That is not fun.

    At least grinding gets you somewhere.

    LOOOOOOOLLLLL

    omg you get more stupid... every... day.


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