Converting TT99/Lunar 95 to Nirvana

elita1337

So... does it really make a difference if I were to convert TT99 armor to Nirvana than if I were to convert 95 Lunar gear to Nirvana? Do both yield the same armor and require the same mats to convert? My main is not lvl 100 yet, but she is getting there and I'm wondering if it's even worth it to get 95 Lunar gear when TT99 would be easier to obtain.

WaffleChan - Sanctuary

yeah they do reforge into the same set of weapons, its been suggested you get the TT99 pataka, and turn it into one of the many nirvanas if you wanted to attempt one due to their cheap price if youre talking about a caster class. if youre something else, id recommend looking for the cheapest 99 you can find to do so.

Sacredxstar - Heavens Tear

It is because of this thing called "Nirvana" that makes me double think which weapon I should get for my 99. Seeing as lunar/TT100 magic weapons require the same amount of crystals as a TT99 when converting. Only difference is that it technically "skips" a step of doing it twice, but same amount is required.

WaffleChan - Sanctuary

from what ive heard, only the TT100 skips the reforge process

Sacredxstar - Heavens Tear

WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »

from what ive heard, only the TT100 skips the reforge process

Same difference in the end if the weapons can just turn out to be the same after all the reforging, but thanks for the correction.

Sacredxstar - Heavens Tear

Just a suggestion if you don't use it already:

http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/search

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

Not sure if pple actually want to reforge a magic TT100. All 3 bonus stats on the weapon are pretty much all you can ask for among the reforging bonus... and we all know how crappy the bonus combos are in pwi.

WaffleChan - Sanctuary

http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=6747582&postcount=1
yet again, leave it to the archers of the forums to do everything :v.

im sure concepts in this can be applied to everything

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

there is only a handful of archers that post usable info and calculations, and its mostly the cool headed same names

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

Not sure if pple actually want to reforge a magic TT100. All 3 bonus stats on the weapon are pretty much all you can ask for among the reforging bonus... and we all know how crappy the bonus combos are in pwi.

I think you keep those 3 and get 2 more.

first off:
recast = tt/lunar -> g13 nirvana
quench = g13 nirvana / tt100 -> g15 nirvana
reforge = g15 nirvana -> g15 nirvana

The 3 stats of the g13 are based on the kind of weapon you forge and are based on some tt/lunar counterpart. If you take a gold tt99 bow now and turn it into a g13 nirvana tt xbow... that xbow has same stats as tt99 gold xbow even though it was made from a bow.

http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/25969

It is my understanding that for quench you keep the 3 stats and gain 2 more random ones for a total of 5.

Here's the pool for the 2 extra stats. http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/25667

Can anyone confirm this?

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

It is my understanding that for quench you keep the 3 stats and gain 2 more random ones for a total of 5.

Here's the pool for the 2 extra stats. http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/25667

Can anyone confirm this?

it says;;


items Addons:
Amount:3
Probability of 3 addon(s): 100%

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

it says;;


items Addons:
Amount:3
Probability of 3 addon(s): 100%

pw database says that for everything
warsoul has 6 add ons http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/20363
event cape http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/21419

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

pw database says that for everything
warsoul has 6 add ons http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/20363
event cape http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/21419

btw where did u get the info of gaining 2more on top of the 3? Because i remember somewhere that said reforging resets the bonuses.

and.

get back ingame or your words are null b:cry

Technotic - Sanctuary

Are these weapons even worth it?

Valirah - Sanctuary

elita1337 wrote: »

So... does it really make a difference if I were to convert TT99 armor to Nirvana than if I were to convert 95 Lunar gear to Nirvana? Do both yield the same armor and require the same mats to convert? My main is not lvl 100 yet, but she is getting there and I'm wondering if it's even worth it to get 95 Lunar gear when TT99 would be easier to obtain.

There are two sets of Nirvana gear, TT and Lunar, each has a different look and stats. TT Nirvana has a more demonic look while Lunar Nirvana is more angelic. Both cost the same to convert.

Telarith - Sanctuary

From what I've seen, TT99 gold armor gets a defense reduction by a small amount, and in exchange you gain Phys dmg reduct and mag dmg reduct % added on per piece. Supposedly under debuff this should help out for survivability.

Lunar has a higher defense amount, but doesn't get the dmg reducts like TT99. I forget what adds it gets off the top of my head.

Astoru - Heavens Tear

Technotic - Sanctuary wrote: »

Are these weapons even worth it?

Weapons that are just as good (And in some cases better than rank8) are definitely worth it.

Taarloor - Harshlands

someone post a screenshot of a sinrabansho after reforging plz, i aint risking it on here-say

Legerity - Sanctuary

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

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It is my understanding that for quench you keep the 3 stats and gain 2 more random ones for a total of 5.

Here's the pool for the 2 extra stats. http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/25667

Can anyone confirm this?

I initially had the same belief until I bothered to translate what was on the PWChina page. What gets me there is the section where it states "Guaranteed Attributes" and "Possible Attributes". There is no hint or information as to the final process possessing any additional attributes. I use to believe that the "Additional Skills" at PWD possibly hid the previous weapon stats but again, when I translated the site it was clear to me that they were only proc and their respective adv. procs. This kind of ruined reforging for me. Unless there is explicit information and verification stating that it is possible to obtain an additional two attributes, I will rather sit on the recast process (first recast, 100 crystals) on my Heaven Shatterer.

I currently still sit on the view you do not obtain an additional 2 stats based on what has been released. Furthermore, warsoul having 6 stats is understandable IMO as it is significantly more difficult to obtain than either rank 8 or full nirvana gear. Though for others, please DYOR!

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973

Legerity - Sanctuary wrote: »

I currently still sit on the view you do not obtain an additional 2 stats based on what has been released. Furthermore, warsoul having 6 stats is understandable IMO as it is significantly more difficult to obtain than either rank 8 or full nirvana gear. Though for others, please DYOR!

The stats you get with warsong are still much better than anything from nirvana because of +50 attack level.

TT nirvana armor also has 5 attributes so 5 attribute nirvana has a precedent.

Here is some related text that sort of supports 2 more attributes for a total of 5.

eatwithspoons wrote: »

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4) Upgrade Stats
After you’ve attained your Palace of Nirvana gear, you have the ability to upgrade its stats. Palace of Nirvana gear can have two random additional attributes, one major and one minor. Major attributes are associated with equipment types, while minor attributes are completely random. Players can “re-roll” the two additional attributes until they find statistics that meet their needs. ...

The text says that "major" attributes come from the equipment type and are not random while you get two additional "minor" attributes that are random.
The "one major and one minor" seems to be describing the 2 attributes but it later refers to minor attributes (plural) as being the random ones...

You should get the major ones from the reforge while the minor ones come from the pool. Who knows though...

Someone show a screenshot of a reforged weapon already.

Michael_Dark - Lost City

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

I think you keep those 3 and get 2 more.

first off:
recast = tt/lunar -> g13 nirvana
quench = g13 nirvana / tt100 -> g15 nirvana
reforge = g15 nirvana -> g15 nirvana

The 3 stats of the g13 are based on the kind of weapon you forge and are based on some tt/lunar counterpart. If you take a gold tt99 bow now and turn it into a g13 nirvana tt xbow... that xbow has same stats as tt99 gold xbow even though it was made from a bow.

http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/25969

It is my understanding that for quench you keep the 3 stats and gain 2 more random ones for a total of 5.

Here's the pool for the 2 extra stats. http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/25667

Can anyone confirm this?

Recast: You change the look and name of the weapon, but keep the original stats, you get the higher refining matk/patk.

Quench: You lose all attribute of the orginal piece and it then gains 3 new random stats.

Reforge: Basically just rerolling your 3 random stats... or in the case of armor, the one variable min-max stat.

Legerity - Sanctuary

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

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The text says that "major" attributes come from the equipment type and are not random while you get two additional "minor" attributes that are random.
The "one major and one minor" seems to be describing the 2 attributes but it later refers to minor attributes (plural) as being the random ones...

You should get the major ones from the reforge while the minor ones come from the pool. Who knows though...

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That's where I got my first belief from aswell... but ever since the whole Wizzeled fiasco (along with the refine transfer issues), I have become very doubtful of the information posted in that thread (That and PWChina so far has not disheartened me quite as PWI has, so I will take PWChina's information with more weight).

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Someone show a screenshot of a reforged weapon already.

I second this.

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973

Legerity - Sanctuary wrote: »

That's where I got my first belief from aswell... but ever since the whole Wizzeled fiasco (along with the refine transfer issues), I have become very doubtful of the information posted in that thread (That and PWChina so far has not disheartened me quite as PWI has, so I will take PWChina's information with more weight).

Hmm reading your pwchina stuff more closely that does seem to make more sense as you would guarantee a weapon would have only 1 proc.. ehh I'd still like a screenshot to be sure.

Telarith - Sanctuary

Korren worked hard at translating everything from the chinese site last year, and made a post with hyperlinks to different pages in the thread with specific info. Weapon attributes seperated by major and minor is hyperlinked to pg 100, the info for armors is hyperlinked to pg 116. Very useful info, and helped me change end game armor paths before Tideborn was even out.

http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=466152&highlight=nirvana

This should take you to page 1, which has a general post of all the information, along with links to major points later on.

Sacredxstar - Heavens Tear

WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »

http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=6747582&postcount=1
yet again, leave it to the archers of the forums to do everything :v.

im sure concepts in this can be applied to everything

This is why I married an archer (aside from him being my RL bf). b:chuckle

axt57

Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »

Recast: You change the look and name of the weapon, but keep the original stats, you get the higher refining matk/patk.

Quench: You lose all attribute of the orginal piece and it then gains 3 new random stats.

Reforge: Basically just rerolling your 3 random stats... or in the case of armor, the one variable min-max stat.

This.

When it says 2 attributes: Major means the main stat itself (e.i. magic), minor means the stat amount (18-19)

Major stats are dependant on equipment: a nirvana glaive can roll a -10% channel. A magic sword can roll a 4% crit.

Minor stats can be present on any weapon, as any weapon has a chance to gain one of the following major stats - Magic, Strenght, Dex, Vit, followed by the minor random stat of 18-19.

Michael_Dark - Lost City

axt57 wrote: »

This.

When it says 2 attributes: Major means the main stat itself (e.i. magic), minor means the stat amount (18-19)

Major stats are dependant on equipment: a nirvana glaive can roll a -10% channel. A magic sword can roll a 4% crit.

Minor stats can be present on any weapon, as any weapon has a chance to gain one of the following major stats - Magic, Strenght, Dex, Vit, followed by the minor random stat of 18-19.

Yeah, the random stats would be... Major... channeling, crit, interval, sacrifical strike, etc.. then 2 random stats like vit, mag, dex, etc...

Sacredxstar - Heavens Tear

Taarloor - Harshlands wrote: »

someone post a screenshot of a sinrabansho after reforging plz, i aint risking it on here-say

^ Agreed. I don't think anyone in HT has one yet. Gear, yes. Weapon, no.

Michael_Dark - Lost City

Not sure which weapon this was converted from, but here are screenshots of the farmed Nirvana top, bottom and wand:

Technotic - Sanctuary

Do you get any kind of bonus for having more Nirvana items? Like TT90 Gold and TT99

Valirah - Sanctuary

Technotic - Sanctuary wrote: »

Do you get any kind of bonus for having more Nirvana items? Like TT90 Gold and TT99

Well considering that the provided screenshot clearly shows "Shadow of Nirvana (6)" on the two armor pieces, indicating a 6 part set, I would hazzard a guess and say yes.