LA best for PVP and reason why I advise light armor for PVP

Yulk - Heavens Tear
Yulk - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,951 Arc User
edited March 2010 in Arigora Colosseum
Ok, coming from a carebear, light armor on all classes is best for PVP imo, thats if you plan on fighting all classes.

Light armor is balanced between heavy armor and arcane armor.

You will need both magic and physical defense. Best to use LA for classes that does attacks based your weak point (physical for magic classes and magical for physical classes)

Lets say your a bm, and your fighting a cleric. The cleric should be smart enough to hit you with certain spells if you use one of your marrows. But if your using HA, that cleric will kite you with cyclone and spells. Best way to beat a cleric is by using LA because that cleric using both kinds of attacks, as soon as you stun the cleric, they cleric will have a tougher time trying to beat you.



I forgot to say in my opinion xD
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VIT > STR > DEX > MAG... GG
HA > LA > AR... GG

HA + VIT = win b:bye
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    *cough archers*
    b:surrender
    wait so you be speaking for BMs right?
    b:sweat
    *cough marrows cough balance cough true emptiness cough*
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  • dekciw
    dekciw Posts: 954 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Light armor is the worst armor in the game.

    It has horrible balance : half heavy half arcane gives more pdef/mdef and hp from refine than the light armor ****. Hell... FULL heavy armor with just mdef neck/belt will have more PDEF/MDEF/HP than whoever uses LA.


    *On equally refined gear, let's not compare +10 to +2 kk.
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  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Ehm, about hp gained from refine its true heavy armor are the best on these but arcane armor was the worst on hp gained per refine.
    Heavy : 44 hp
    Light : 33 hp
    Arcane : 27 hp
    b:surrender
    Other than that, i am quiet agree that light armor was jack of all trades makes it not so use full.
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  • Yulk - Heavens Tear
    Yulk - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,951 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    *cough archers*
    b:surrender
    wait so you be speaking for BMs right?
    b:sweat
    *cough marrows cough balance cough true emptiness cough*

    All classes bro, not just BMs b:chuckle. Think about a wizzie with LA too, with maxed earth shield and latest light armor with P.DEF shards
    dekciw wrote: »
    Light armor is the worst armor in the game.

    It has horrible balance : half heavy half arcane gives more pdef/mdef and hp from refine than the light armor ****. Hell... FULL heavy armor with just mdef neck/belt will have more PDEF/MDEF/HP than whoever uses LA.


    *On equally refined gear, let's not compare +10 to +2 kk.

    LA is not the worst armor ingame, I disagree. It is half HA and AA, true. You have a balanced defense and elemental defense.

    It is not as high physical defense as heavy armor or elemental defense as arcane, but it have higher of vice versa. Its versatile, otherwise people would be using LA if it was higher. On top of that, you can't wear heavy armor on magic classes unless you want to gimp your magic damage. HA magic class is not a good build if you don't back up... but I should sum that up.
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    VIT > STR > DEX > MAG... GG
    HA > LA > AR... GG

    HA + VIT = win b:bye
  • Divine_Death - Dreamweaver
    Divine_Death - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,491 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Lol, with LA, you can get 1 shot by other BM as a BM and Wiz can still 1 shot you. It's true that I hate fighting LA casters more than AA, but other AA casters roll them.
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  • Brigid - Harshlands
    Brigid - Harshlands Posts: 1,332 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Wait, let me get this straight: A level 30 Blademaster on a PvE server is advising us about PvP?

    Light Armor is terrible for non-caster classes. Notice how the only physical classes that use it (Archers and Assassins) do so because they're forced to, not because they want to? Honestly, by the time you get to the 70s or 80s it's not so great for caster classes either.
  • Yulk - Heavens Tear
    Yulk - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,951 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Brigid - Harshlands wrote: »
    Wait, let me get this straight: A level 30 Blademaster on a PvE server is advising us about PvP?

    Light Armor is terrible for non-caster classes. Notice how the only physical classes that use it (Archers and Assassins) do so because they're forced to, not because they want to? Honestly, by the time you get to the 70s or 80s it's not so great for caster classes either.

    I have a 55 main b:sweat . Yes, I am using calculators too and MATH, and ofc reason, people that say (1 shot) is lying. Lol. They say the same about garnet shards on my main. *cough* yet I beaten even 60+ archers in duel before and yes, I barely PVP.

    BM's have magical marrows, that BOOST M.DEF, light armor will give a lot more M.DEF. Besides, they CAN use light armor with 3 STR, 1 DEX, 1 VIT or more. They can switch back

    Wizards have earth shield that BOOST P.DEF, at endgame WITH garnet shards on LA and they can switch back to AA for other casters.

    Venoes are very good with fox form, more P.DEF and they can leech life, with bramble guard and amplify damage, lots of mixes.


    There are skills that are there, and you sound like a silly person to judge me by my avatar, I have a LVL55 (capped for now) main. I choose not to level my main for now and level my alts for a bit till I finish a goal for rebirth. Just because I don't PVP, doesn't mean i don't know how to play. You could be leveling on oracles on a PK server b:bye
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    VIT > STR > DEX > MAG... GG
    HA > LA > AR... GG

    HA + VIT = win b:bye
  • DrkLordZ - Sanctuary
    DrkLordZ - Sanctuary Posts: 297 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    dekciw wrote: »
    Light armor is the worst armor in the game.

    It has horrible balance : half heavy half arcane gives more pdef/mdef and hp from refine than the light armor ****. Hell... FULL heavy armor with just mdef neck/belt will have more PDEF/MDEF/HP than whoever uses LA.


    *On equally refined gear, let's not compare +10 to +2 kk.

    Then why be this level 100 archer in sanc survive 9 people attacking him self buffed, 18 people hp and bell buffed. And if he ever was fully buffed, he probably survive 25+.
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  • Asperitas - Lost City
    Asperitas - Lost City Posts: 907 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    DrkLordZ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Then why be this level 100 archer in sanc survive 9 people attacking him self buffed, 18 people hp and bell buffed. And if he ever was fully buffed, he probably survive 25+.

    1. How's his gear? Tricked out with thousands of dollars worth?
    2. How good were the people attacking him? I doubt he'd survive a rank 8 mage.
    3. If any archer did do that, it's not because he/she is using light armor. It's because of the cashshopping behind the character. And frankly with that amount of cash, you could make anything good.

    Compare:

    Heavy Armor:

    Self-Buffed:
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=3f120e73e8e39261

    Full-Buffed:
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=9d32aed1d3358f95


    Light Armor:

    Self-Buffed (Citrines):
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=a746297ff339a22b

    Protection Ornaments:
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=bdbcb47d0c50c239

    Full-Buffed (Citrines):
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=0ea364e3f71bcf43

    Protection Ornaments:
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=2be2755cfca663b8

    You can swap the citrines on the light armor for garnets or sapphire, and even the ornaments around, but that's not going to compensate for the terrible overall defense.

    I can't speak for other classes because I'm not experienced with them.

    **note: the heavy armor BMs are demon marrowed. That's another great thing about BMs in heavy armor. Demon marrow really balances out your defense quite nicely.
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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    DrkLordZ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Then why be this level 100 archer in sanc survive 9 people attacking him self buffed, 18 people hp and bell buffed. And if he ever was fully buffed, he probably survive 25+.

    because he's not an archer with light armor, he is a cashshopasaurus.

    the archer in question has full vit shards, 4 sockets and +10 refines in every piece of equipment. yet i guarantee you, a lvl 100 mage with a +10 wep can 1 shot him.

    and i seriously doubt he can survive a squad of 9, filled with competent players from every class. 1 armor break = GG
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  • Magikrap - Lost City
    Magikrap - Lost City Posts: 289 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    hahaha

    i trolled you all with my alt

    HAHAHAHAHHA

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  • BambooHugger - Lost City
    BambooHugger - Lost City Posts: 182 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    All classes bro, not just BMs b:chuckle. Think about a wizzie with LA too, with maxed earth shield and latest light armor with P.DEF shards

    Think about a wizzie with LA too, with maxed earth shield and latest light armor with P.DEF shards

    Think about a wizzie with LA too, with maxed earth shield and latest light armor with P.DEF shards

    Think about a wizzie with LA too, with maxed earth shield and latest light armor with P.DEF shards

    he said p def shards
    nuff said
    gg
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  • Dallandra - Lost City
    Dallandra - Lost City Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    God how many times with this debate. We know the story, its ok for a while and then the stats just become useless in comparison to other stuff, even mixed sets.

    Most classes have better uses for stats than dex spends and LA just blows in the end.
  • Kamikazi/ - Harshlands
    Kamikazi/ - Harshlands Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Dallandra - Lost City wrote: »
    God how many times with this debate. We know the story, its ok for a while and then the stats just become useless in comparison to other stuff, even mixed sets.

    Most classes have better uses for stats than dex spends and LA just blows in the end.

    well LA is actually pretty nice with a sin if u know how they work.Dex=more attack with daggs + the crit rate +the evasion and sins also have evasion skills so think on that one plz rofl
  • Dallandra - Lost City
    Dallandra - Lost City Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Always a wise ****, and a good reason not to waste your breath on forums dont you think.

    Obviously dex classes require dex dumbass. What did you think I roll wereb..barbs in full arcane with maxed out int or something too?

    Spare me the failed wit and save yourself a response im finished here.

    EDIT: Just for your 'idiot' self kami I've highlighted the important bit for you in that last post.

    maybe you should ''think on that one plz rofl''
  • Yulk - Heavens Tear
    Yulk - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,951 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Asperitas - Lost City wrote: »
    1. How's his gear? Tricked out with thousands of dollars worth?
    2. How good were the people attacking him? I doubt he'd survive a rank 8 mage.
    3. If any archer did do that, it's not because he/she is using light armor. It's because of the cashshopping behind the character. And frankly with that amount of cash, you could make anything good.

    Compare:

    Heavy Armor:

    Self-Buffed:
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=3f120e73e8e39261

    Full-Buffed:
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=9d32aed1d3358f95


    Light Armor:

    Self-Buffed (Citrines):
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=a746297ff339a22b

    Protection Ornaments:
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=bdbcb47d0c50c239

    Full-Buffed (Citrines):
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=0ea364e3f71bcf43

    Protection Ornaments:
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=2be2755cfca663b8

    You can swap the citrines on the light armor for garnets or sapphire, and even the ornaments around, but that's not going to compensate for the terrible overall defense.

    I can't speak for other classes because I'm not experienced with them.

    **note: the heavy armor BMs are demon marrowed. That's another great thing about BMs in heavy armor. Demon marrow really balances out your defense quite nicely.

    If you have 5 STR, and 1 DEX or more per level in build, light armor still tops heavy armor in magic defense. Overall defense is not high as one or the other. Heavy armor will never be better than light armor, neither light is better than heavy. If light armor was so bad, how come archers or assassins not choose, saying as "forced" not to wear HA over LA?

    On top of that, I mean build, so you can swap armors, which is better off.

    HA venoes? But not HA assassin? Sounds absurd b:bye
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    VIT > STR > DEX > MAG... GG
    HA > LA > AR... GG

    HA + VIT = win b:bye
  • Asperitas - Lost City
    Asperitas - Lost City Posts: 907 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    If you have 5 STR, and 1 DEX or more per level in build, light armor still tops heavy armor in magic defense. Overall defense is not high as one or the other. Heavy armor will never be better than light armor, neither light is better than heavy. If light armor was so bad, how come archers or assassins not choose, saying as "forced" not to wear HA over LA?

    On top of that, I mean build, so you can swap armors, which is better off.

    HA venoes? But not HA assassin? Sounds absurd b:bye

    I'm not quite sure I'm following what you said. That's a typical end-game BM build. I'm not sure what the 5 str 1 dex per level is supposed to mean.

    Without marrowing, LA's magic defense will be greater than the HA one. But if you use marrow, you'll see HA wins out in balance. If you marrow with LA, you're asking to be oneshot with something, be it physical or magical. Not to mention as the refines get higher and higher, the difference in HP widens.

    There's no point for a BM, or a barb for that matter to be switching gears in the middle of a giant PK fest. Look at the BM full buffed with demon marrow on. 10k resistances of each. That's pretty damn good if you ask me. You wanna get higher mag def? Sure switch it out to LA and marrow it. But check out your phys def. It's absolutely abysmal.

    Overall, LA has:

    - **** mag def
    - **** phys def
    - **** HP per refine

    It's absolutely terrible compared to HA.

    As for archers and assassins, they gimp their damage too severly for heavy armor to be of any use of them. Though, heavy armor sins and mages have been contemplated before, the damage sacrificed was too great to compensate for the defense boost. Though if they could without sacrificing too much damage, I bet they would choose HA.

    Why do you think people say sins and archers are squishy? Check out the veno forums. Next to no one goes LA for PVP. There's a reason for that. LA is like a "okay I really can't use anything else, so I'll use this" kind of armor.

    If you can build a BM using LA that can come out with more balanced defenses than the HA one I posted, with equivalent gear, then I will concede defeat. But thus far, I see no promising evidence to support your claim.

    b:bye
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  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I have a 55 main b:sweat . Yes, I am using calculators too and MATH, and ofc reason, people that say (1 shot) is lying. Lol. They say the same about garnet shards on my main. *cough* yet I beaten even 60+ archers in duel before and yes, I barely PVP.

    BM's have magical marrows, that BOOST M.DEF, light armor will give a lot more M.DEF. Besides, they CAN use light armor with 3 STR, 1 DEX, 1 VIT or more. They can switch back

    Wizards have earth shield that BOOST P.DEF, at endgame WITH garnet shards on LA and they can switch back to AA for other casters.

    Venoes are very good with fox form, more P.DEF and they can leech life, with bramble guard and amplify damage, lots of mixes.


    There are skills that are there, and you sound like a silly person to judge me by my avatar, I have a LVL55 (capped for now) main. I choose not to level my main for now and level my alts for a bit till I finish a goal for rebirth. Just because I don't PVP, doesn't mean i don't know how to play. You could be leveling on oracles on a PK server b:bye

    And as a higher level then all your characters... i'll say this. LA f-ing sucks.
    DrkLordZ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Then why be this level 100 archer in sanc survive 9 people attacking him self buffed, 18 people hp and bell buffed. And if he ever was fully buffed, he probably survive 25+.

    LOL. Are you serious? I can get an level 100 robe to survive 1k+ level 1s hitting him. A well refine wiz will hit 7k+ on LA... so even the highest refined/hp sharded LA can survive 3 shots at the most.
    Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    If you have 5 STR, and 1 DEX or more per level in build, light armor still tops heavy armor in magic defense. Overall defense is not high as one or the other. Heavy armor will never be better than light armor, neither light is better than heavy. If light armor was so bad, how come archers or assassins not choose, saying as "forced" not to wear HA over LA?

    On top of that, I mean build, so you can swap armors, which is better off.

    HA venoes? But not HA assassin? Sounds absurd b:bye

    At my level to wear the HA i would need 250 str... while LA only requires 103. So in order for me to wear HA... i would need to **** out 150 stat points from my dex. and considering thats like 1/3 of my total dex. if i go HA... i'll have literally reduced my dmg output by 33%... and my crit by 25%.

    For pve and/or duels... armor doesn't really matter AT ALL. heck... you can be running around naked for all it matters.
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  • Kristoph - Lost City
    Kristoph - Lost City Posts: 2,016 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Even mages are better off using heavy armor than light armor.

    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=6ab46a262f07e2b3

    Actually surprised me how well it turned out. 18% crit with demon masteries and 37% channeling. Damage is fine because of how wizard skills work. Sucks in the mdef department but you get the pdef of a fully buffed arcane user.

    I don't think any class other than archers/sins should be wearing LA..
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  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    The guy is a 5x at best... already admited that he "bearly" pvp... and is here yelling like a buffoon that LA is best for "pvp". If common sense doesn't take over and steer you away from LA like the plauge... then well... you deserve to die. People only wear LA cause they have NO... and i repeat NO other choice. Make HA or robe the same requirement as LA... and you'll see me buying/trading mats/armor the second i log on.
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  • Cookiecutter - Harshlands
    Cookiecutter - Harshlands Posts: 90 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Ok, coming from a carebear, light armor on all classes is best for PVP imo, thats if you plan on fighting all classes.

    Light armor is balanced between heavy armor and arcane armor.

    You will need both magic and physical defense. Best to use LA for classes that does attacks based your weak point (physical for magic classes and magical for physical classes)

    Lets say your a bm, and your fighting a cleric. The cleric should be smart enough to hit you with certain spells if you use one of your marrows. But if your using HA, that cleric will kite you with cyclone and spells. Best way to beat a cleric is by using LA because that cleric using both kinds of attacks, as soon as you stun the cleric, they cleric will have a tougher time trying to beat you.



    I forgot to say in my opinion xD
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  • Yulk - Heavens Tear
    Yulk - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,951 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Kristoph - Lost City wrote: »
    Even mages are better off using heavy armor than light armor.

    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=6ab46a262f07e2b3

    Actually surprised me how well it turned out. 18% crit with demon masteries and 37% channeling. Damage is fine because of how wizard skills work. Sucks in the mdef department but you get the pdef of a fully buffed arcane user.

    I don't think any class other than archers/sins should be wearing LA..

    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=a73065e5ac3b5ad5

    GG, and on top of that 3k more M.DMG and 6k More P.DEF, 7% more crit 1k more evasion ( you can stack evasion with more evasion) and best of all 0.4 more speed which is a kiter's best friend. But what does HA wiz have? xD 2k more HP? and a few more elemental resist ? (LA hybrid wiz isn't even using element DEF shards which WILL be more)

    And shouting out loud, nah, just advising people if they want to PVP with LA, let them, don't bash on the LA users or hybrids, its their choice.

    And again, I have a LVL55 pure VIT barb (he only PVE, then again I don't PVP regardless) I rather play a different game that does not deal with drops and levels to PVP, that would be a FPS game, and a lot of you people made me lol about the HA magic classes b:bye
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    VIT > STR > DEX > MAG... GG
    HA > LA > AR... GG

    HA + VIT = win b:bye
  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    you can stack evasion with more evasion

    You should really quit while your not extremely behind...
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    2. If you have less kill counts then me, don't expect me to take pk advice from you.
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  • Kristoph - Lost City
    Kristoph - Lost City Posts: 2,016 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=a73065e5ac3b5ad5

    GG, and on top of that 3k more M.DMG and 6k More P.DEF, 7% more crit 1k more evasion ( you can stack evasion with more evasion) and best of all 0.4 more speed which is a kiter's best friend. But what does HA wiz have? xD 2k more HP? and a few more elemental resist ? (LA hybrid wiz isn't even using element DEF shards which WILL be more)
    - My matk range is 7823-7901, yours is 5888-8170... GG indeed. Sage wellspring's matk boost only lasts 15 secs and is useless because of it.
    - LOL evasion
    - You used two equips that aren't available in game
    - Congrats on comparing my wizard with 3 socket g8 hp to your 4 socket g12 pdef... if I turn yours into 3 socket g8 pdef you're left with 8.4k pdef, fail
    - Congrats on having only 18% channeling with a two socket weapon as opposed to my 1 socket weapon. Oh, and your choice of weapon is beyond terrible.
    - Anyone with common sense would stat dex out, leaving your crit at a much lower %...


    So basically you have less channeling, same damage, more crit, less hp, less pdef, less mdef and more evasion.


    Congrats on failing to build a good character.
    Wondering how much longer these **** packs are going to be around.
  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    ^ lawlsauceb:chuckle
  • Asperitas - Lost City
    Asperitas - Lost City Posts: 907 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=a73065e5ac3b5ad5

    GG, and on top of that 3k more M.DMG and 6k More P.DEF, 7% more crit 1k more evasion ( you can stack evasion with more evasion) and best of all 0.4 more speed which is a kiter's best friend. But what does HA wiz have? xD 2k more HP? and a few more elemental resist ? (LA hybrid wiz isn't even using element DEF shards which WILL be more)

    And shouting out loud, nah, just advising people if they want to PVP with LA, let them, don't bash on the LA users or hybrids, its their choice.

    And again, I have a LVL55 pure VIT barb (he only PVE, then again I don't PVP regardless) I rather play a different game that does not deal with drops and levels to PVP, that would be a FPS game, and a lot of you people made me lol about the HA magic classes b:bye


    Here I fixed it up for you so people don't laugh at you for comparing apples and oranges.

    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=e60cf739c0f333b0

    GG indeed.

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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=a73065e5ac3b5ad5

    GG, and on top of that 3k more M.DMG and 6k More P.DEF, 7% more crit 1k more evasion ( you can stack evasion with more evasion) and best of all 0.4 more speed which is a kiter's best friend. But what does HA wiz have? xD 2k more HP? and a few more elemental resist ? (LA hybrid wiz isn't even using element DEF shards which WILL be more)

    And shouting out loud, nah, just advising people if they want to PVP with LA, let them, don't bash on the LA users or hybrids, its their choice.

    And again, I have a LVL55 pure VIT barb (he only PVE, then again I don't PVP regardless) I rather play a different game that does not deal with drops and levels to PVP, that would be a FPS game, and a lot of you people made me lol about the HA magic classes b:bye

    you boob you put on sage wellspring quaff....and DEMON stone barrier while teh HA is a sage stone barrier and the quality of shards....
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  • TigerLily - Lost City
    TigerLily - Lost City Posts: 1,209 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=a73065e5ac3b5ad5

    GG, and on top of that 3k more M.DMG and 6k More P.DEF, 7% more crit 1k more evasion ( you can stack evasion with more evasion) and best of all 0.4 more speed which is a kiter's best friend. But what does HA wiz have? xD 2k more HP? and a few more elemental resist ? (LA hybrid wiz isn't even using element DEF shards which WILL be more)

    And shouting out loud, nah, just advising people if they want to PVP with LA, let them, don't bash on the LA users or hybrids, its their choice.

    And again, I have a LVL55 pure VIT barb (he only PVE, then again I don't PVP regardless) I rather play a different game that does not deal with drops and levels to PVP, that would be a FPS game, and a lot of you people made me lol about the HA magic classes b:bye

    Is this a troll LOL

    You're using OP g15 equipment thats not even in game and fully stacked g12 phy def shards - that no one will ever be rich/dumb enough to use unless they play private server.

    And still u managed to create a pathetic 1 shoot build b:chuckle

    You have same mag def as an archer and half the hp of an archer. Even a vita build cleric or veno will be able to 1 shoot you b:chuckle

    LOLOL just saw the evasion gear and the weapon, pataka for cata clerics <.<
  • Moog - Lost City
    Moog - Lost City Posts: 633 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Kristoph - Lost City wrote: »
    Even mages are better off using heavy armor than light armor.

    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=6ab46a262f07e2b3

    Actually surprised me how well it turned out. 18% crit with demon masteries and 37% channeling. Damage is fine because of how wizard skills work. Sucks in the mdef department but you get the pdef of a fully buffed arcane user.

    I don't think any class other than archers/sins should be wearing LA..

    This is pretty interesting.
  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Moog - Lost City wrote: »
    This is pretty interesting. But the wrists should give less hp since those aren't light armor sleeves.

    Well maybe seem weird, but light armor sometimes also has - channeling b:surrender
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