TT hates clerics

Ferrecies - Harshlands

BB and RB are both pot consuming, I use almost 70 pots every run. Thats around 85k coinsb:shocked

I need tips with mana b:surrender

FatherTed - Dreamweaver

RB and BB less?

Activating a 9k apoth pot immediately before putting the bubble up helps a little, JJ and Token MP pots help a ton.

Ferrecies - Harshlands

Can you tell me where i get those pots
And I have to keep BB cuz sometimes im the only cleric who heals 4-5 pplb:cry
I hate TT but i need itb:sad

FatherTed - Dreamweaver

The token pots you get from the PWI Agent in exchange for tokens that came out of anni packs/corals.

Apoth pots you either make or buy from other players.

Paramedic - Dreamweaver

token pots can be used >75lvl

anyway, u will have mana bill and u cant do much bout it xP

DrBandaid - Dreamweaver

this is why us BB clerics get second pick behind the barb who is spending all his money on repairs.

but yes. tokens for mp food (lv 75) or find some catshops with sesame yuanxio and buy that.

Graviora - Dreamweaver

I'm doing fine in TT actually o.o The extra mats I get, I sell or give to friends who need it. I get mats for my BM husband and I have nearly all the mats I need for my TT90.

/slightofftopic

My MP pots do suffer a bit, lol. I use MP food, though. Much easier for me and they last awhile if I buy 500+ and just use them when I need to. Its expensive sometimes, but my husband is willing to pitch in as I am helping him with his mats and keeping him alive while he's adjusting to his new fist build...

Kawakami - Dreamweaver

<-- Cleric hates TT, up until now I always lose coins ( for the time spent ) instead of gaining them. I gotta get really lucky with drops to outweigh my ordinary farming..

Sylredrae - Sanctuary

One thing you could do Ferre is not to do TT with random squads, and try to get another cleric. Mana costs tend to vary with the quality of the squad and the presence of another cleric. I've managed TT1-2 (skipping Soul Banisher) being the sole cleric and it eats a lot of pots. Doing it with another cleric only results in using a lot less pots since you don't need to do as much healing. Getting a good squad will ensure that your mana is not wasted.

One thing you could do is either get an alt to donate pots, asking squad for pots and/or saving them them up when questing and grinding for use on emergencies and BB.

Vitenka - Dreamweaver

Team up with a veno squad instead of a barb? We only need your heals at all on a very few of the bosses.

Choze - Dreamweaver

Well a good squad does make a massive difference in how much mana you will consume. Another thing I've found to be a great help is carrying apoc items. Even pre 75 the 50 mp/sec elixirs greatly reduce the amount of pots I need to use to keep BB up for long periods of time, and the 3k mp elixirs can be cheaper than spamming pots if you farm or buy herbs for reasonable prices.

Another approach that has served me very well: always watch the AH for mana regen gear. There doesn't seem to be a high demand for it, and as such you can usually find decent mp regen gear at a reasonable price. Weaing almost a full set of regen gear allows me to run things like BH's w/o ever needing to use pots or food. TT's and harder missions will still eat more mana, but my gear has long since paid for itself.

Thistle_grey - Sanctuary

I farm like mad plus get help from my barb partner with herbs so I carry at least 50 of just about every type of powder that restores MP. I've never used a charm, even the free ones, they are still in my bank, and I carry 25 or so potions but even without another cleric, I've had no trouble running out of MP *YET*. BTW I just cracked 8000 mp at level 79 but I have no idea how that stacks up to other clerics at my level.

Zanryu - Dreamweaver

Thistle_grey - Sanctuary wrote: »

I farm like mad plus get help from my barb partner with herbs so I carry at least 50 of just about every type of powder that restores MP. I've never used a charm, even the free ones, they are still in my bank, and I carry 25 or so potions but even without another cleric, I've had no trouble running out of MP *YET*. BTW I just cracked 8000 mp at level 79 but I have no idea how that stacks up to other clerics at my level.

WTF hax?

I've only got 7.8k MP at level 89b:surrender
Then again I'm a Vit Hybrid so that could explain a few things

Ahira - Lost City

Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »

WTF hax?

I've only got 7.8k MP at level 89b:surrender
Then again I'm a Vit Hybrid so that could explain a few things

i got 7.1k MP b:faint

DeathBanana - Heavens Tear

7.3k here

Anyway, about the original topic, here's something that I never see other clerics do, which is surprising as it is quite a mana saver (managed to heal through 007 only using 1 event pot).

1) Only heal as much as you need. It doesn't matter if the barb is hovering at 75%, as long as he isn't dead (or doesn't tick), then he's alive.
2) Once you find out how much you need, meditate between heals. I find I can meditate for a couple seconds between heals, which helps ALOT with mp. People will ask why you're teabagging the floor, just put up with it.
Note: If you're doing this, DO NOT DD or else your mp regen will plummet and it will be pretty much useless. This also means you can't do this on AoE bosses
3) If you don't need chi for purify, spam double/triple spark whenever you get it. 10% mp FTW b:victory If you do it well enough, you may even gain mp during a fight. Downside to this is that you can't DD

Magicgabe - Lost City

when I'm healing for low lvl stuff like HH1-1, 1-2, fbs69 and below. I use double spark a lot. 10%MP is surprisingly helpful. Also, I've changed my healing combo a little, instead of spamming IH, I altenate IH and that crappy pureheart heal. Gives me 30chi per cycle, allowing me to spark even more often and tank rarely drops below 90% HP. I also avoid BB at all costs. But when I have to I used mp pots.

hint: concentrate orbs give 25MP/sec in BB. 75% Mp consumption in BB,

Sylredrae - Sanctuary

I avoid BB whenever possible. If it's only on one boss and it's a short fight I don't mind, but when it's for extended periods of time... It will be one rough ride. ><

My favourite heal by far is ironheart, for reason #1 as decribed by DeathBanana. To save mana with IH, it is bery important to get a decent tank at least. With a good tank and another cleric, though, it is sometimes possible to do TTs using only a few mp pots. Try stacking 3-4 IHs, wait a bit for mana to regen, heal again as needed. When tank's hp drops, use IH more or one of those instant heals. Then IH a bit more and pause to let mana regen, and continue until boss is dead. I've been doing it for a long while and it's saved me a lot of pots, but it all really depends on the tank.

Xoria - Sanctuary

Ferrecies - Harshlands wrote: »

Can you tell me where i get those pots
And I have to keep BB cuz sometimes im the only cleric who heals 4-5 pplb:cry
I hate TT but i need itb:sad

Your squad ought to learn about hate/ aggression levels and understand a tank keeps aggression best when it's one on one with a monster. Or do what I did back in those days- let them die and resurrect them after.

Kawakami - Dreamweaver wrote: »

<-- Cleric hates TT, up until now I always lose coins ( for the time spent ) instead of gaining them. I gotta get really lucky with drops to outweigh my ordinary farming..

To avoid exactly that. This is why clerics are considered expensive to play because team members tend to "bully" you into Regeneration Aura.

Vitenka - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Team up with a veno squad instead of a barb? We only need your heals at all on a very few of the bosses.

That helps, but a lot of players don't understand that a venomancer, especially one with a hercules pet, can tank a good portion of the bosses. The venomancer I play one was tanking TT1-2 squad mode (high) just fine at level 68, no channeling gear, full arcane. Tank just needed to be there for Lord of Percussion and Soul Banisher. Other squads, on the same token, insisted that she wasn't able to tank and the barbarian refused to stop spamming flesh ream. Again, it boils down to what your squad knows or what they are willing to risk to learn something "new".

DeathBanana - Heavens Tear wrote: »

7.3k here

Anyway, about the original topic, here's something that I never see other clerics do, which is surprising as it is quite a mana saver (managed to heal through 007 only using 1 event pot).

1) Only heal as much as you need. It doesn't matter if the barb is hovering at 75%, as long as he isn't dead (or doesn't tick), then he's alive.
2) Once you find out how much you need, meditate between heals. I find I can meditate for a couple seconds between heals, which helps ALOT with mp. People will ask why you're teabagging the floor, just put up with it.
Note: If you're doing this, DO NOT DD or else your mp regen will plummet and it will be pretty much useless. This also means you can't do this on AoE bosses
3) If you don't need chi for purify, spam double/triple spark whenever you get it. 10% mp FTW b:victory If you do it well enough, you may even gain mp during a fight. Downside to this is that you can't DD

Very true. Also, you can throw in Ironheart Blessing and Wellspring to help top off a tank's HP without consuming too much mana if you learn to use them well together. I don't suggest Purehearted Blessing- it's long cast time and high mana cost for the amount it heals seems counter- productive to me, but if you find that it works, go for it.

Keep in mind apothecary pots, like Concentration Orb, give you a boosted recovery rate on mana. Healing spells like Ironhearted Blessing, Wellspring Surge, Stream of Rejuvenation, Chromatic Healing Beam, don't put you into battle mode like Regeneration Aura and Heaven's Wrath do. This means you can keep up your heals with little else. As soon as you start to attack something, however, it knocks that nice little effect off.

If you're higher leveled, like me, and have your sage spirit's gift or demon celestial guardian seal, you can buff yourself with them for that nice recover 900 MP over 15 seconds. Learn to incorperate them in between heals and attacking and you won't need pots very often.