Demon Masteries & crit %

Ishmah - Sanctuary
Ishmah - Sanctuary Posts: 192 Arc User
edited September 2010 in Wizard
Do the mastery crit rates stack if you have all 3 masteries at demon level?
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  • Astarielle - Heavens Tear
    Astarielle - Heavens Tear Posts: 65 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    No, they only apply to the element each spell is from.
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    b:surprised b:chuckle
  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Cholla - Harshlands wrote: »
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=5571182&postcount=10

    You still believe what is written in this game? I'm not. I saw so many written things and it was lies.

    What about this email form GM which telling that is working just for each element? The true is, nobody knows.
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  • Legerity - Sanctuary
    Legerity - Sanctuary Posts: 1,072 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    You still believe what is written in this game? I'm not. I saw so many written things and it was lies.

    What about this email form GM which telling that is working just for each element? The true is, nobody knows.

    I'm not sure if it matters, but the skill description on the demon mastery book changed and so did the names of a few other books.

    It said it increased critical chance by 1% when a magic spell is cast which means 3% if you obtain all 3 books, though again when can you trust anything this game says. Lots of translation errors, localisation errors etc.
  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Legerity - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I'm not sure if it matters, but the skill description on the demon mastery book changed and so did the names of a few other books.

    It said it increased critical chance by 1% when a magic spell is cast which means 3% if you obtain all 3 books, though again when can you trust anything this game says. Lots of translation errors, localisation errors etc.

    It's even worse. Lot of time description doesn't work even is confirmed by dev. This game is one BIG lie.
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  • CeliaZ - Sanctuary
    CeliaZ - Sanctuary Posts: 901 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    It's even worse. Lot of time description doesn't work even is confirmed by dev. This game is one BIG lie.

    Why do you play a game that is so bad in your eyes?
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  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    CeliaZ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Why do you play a game that is so bad in your eyes?

    Because I invested quite a lot of real money. b:laugh
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  • FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver Posts: 463 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    i think it doesnt stack however like mumi said there is no real way to comfirm it beside a GM come here and say it

    a similar thread is about that 1% crit rate arrow, does it rly ups ur crit rate by 1% or is just for the range atk wiht taht arrow?,,,,the description shows it adds 1%crit rate however lots of ppl come and say it doesnt, cuz description is most of the times wrong, especially in skills
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  • Legerity - Sanctuary
    Legerity - Sanctuary Posts: 1,072 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    i think it doesnt stack however like mumi said there is no real way to comfirm it beside a GM come here and say it

    a similar thread is about that 1% crit rate arrow, does it rly ups ur crit rate by 1% or is just for the range atk wiht taht arrow?,,,,the description shows it adds 1%crit rate however lots of ppl come and say it doesnt, cuz description is most of the times wrong, especially in skills

    A GM specifically stated it does not apply re:arrows.

    I would encourage a demon wizard who has all three masteries to spam spells of 1 element on a land mob while in air to confirm the crit %. Mind you, it'll take about 2000 spells or more to come up with anything useful, but atleast it'll give some peace of mind for those wondering about this old skill description debate.
  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    i think it doesnt stack however like mumi said there is no real way to comfirm it beside a GM come here and say it

    a similar thread is about that 1% crit rate arrow, does it rly ups ur crit rate by 1% or is just for the range atk wiht taht arrow?,,,,the description shows it adds 1%crit rate however lots of ppl come and say it doesnt, cuz description is most of the times wrong, especially in skills

    I have this arrow just for better looking. b:chuckle
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  • Mage_Fizban - Dreamweaver
    Mage_Fizban - Dreamweaver Posts: 256 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Seriously guys? Not this thread again.

    Ok. Let's put it this way: http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3941/20091128184951.png

    1% from base
    1% from dex on tome+cape
    1% from love:up and down
    1% from Warsong belt
    4% from rank 8 sword
    4% from rank 8 badge
    3% from lunar ring
    2% from event boots
    and finally. . .3% from masteries
    gives you a grand total of: 20%

    And. . .
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=529402

    Use the search function on the forums next time. It's there for a reason.
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Mage_Fizban - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Seriously guys? Not this thread again.

    Ok. Let's put it this way: http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3941/20091128184951.png

    1% from base
    1% from dex on tome+cape
    1% from love:up and down
    1% from Warsong belt
    4% from rank 8 sword
    4% from rank 8 badge
    3% from lunar ring
    2% from event boots
    and finally. . .3% from masteries
    gives you a grand total of: 20%

    And. . .
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=529402

    Use the search function on the forums next time. It's there for a reason.

    This!!


    10chaarrrr
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Mage_Fizban - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=529402

    lol me like how at the end of the thread there be a shocked archer.
    b:laugh
    darthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
    Hawk:Do this. closing thread
    frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
    Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
    Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
    LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
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    Waiting for...Hamster Packs!
    58% chance to get tokens
    41% chance to get an all class pet hamster....but they has already been freed by the magic hamster.
    1% chance to get ban hamstered with the message "Hamsters United!"
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  • Lorsis - Lost City
    Lorsis - Lost City Posts: 74 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Legerity - Sanctuary wrote: »
    A GM specifically stated it does not apply re:arrows.

    I would encourage a demon wizard who has all three masteries to spam spells of 1 element on a land mob while in air to confirm the crit %. Mind you, it'll take about 2000 spells or more to come up with anything useful, but atleast it'll give some peace of mind for those wondering about this old skill description debate.

    God dammit, i ran this kind of test few months ago, don't really remember how many mobs i killed, been aoeing rams in sundown for like 1.5 hours with hailstorm i posted results somewhere on forums.

    Yes it does stack.

    /thread
  • Ishmah - Sanctuary
    Ishmah - Sanctuary Posts: 192 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Lorsis - Lost City wrote: »
    ---<snip>---

    /thread

    You don't get to close the thread!!! I opened it so I get to close it. b:angry

    Thankyou all for your input.

    I apologise for not having used the search function but I was tired and going to bed.

    The respondents who said that it does stack win!! b:laugh

    /thread
  • Legerity - Sanctuary
    Legerity - Sanctuary Posts: 1,072 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Lorsis - Lost City wrote: »
    God dammit, i ran this kind of test few months ago, don't really remember how many mobs i killed, been aoeing rams in sundown for like 1.5 hours with hailstorm i posted results somewhere on forums.

    Yes it does stack.

    /thread

    Sorry, I was oblivious to this experiment. =)
  • Cheaper - Heavens Tear
    Cheaper - Heavens Tear Posts: 128 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Ishmah - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Do the mastery crit rates stack if you have all 3 masteries at demon level?

    It stacks, works with any type of magic skill.

    Just use Eye of Observation on anyone who has learned them.
    omg im posting stuff.
  • Mage_Fizban - Dreamweaver
    Mage_Fizban - Dreamweaver Posts: 256 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Or save yourself the eye, and just look at the pic I posted earlier.
  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Mage_Fizban - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Or save yourself the eye, and just look at the pic I posted earlier.
    What if is it same like with bow critical arrow? It also show +1 critical but it doesn't work. Eye doesn't show critical for each element. What if it show just all together? But what if is it just 1 for each element? Same as I said with bow critical arrow. Also I saw lot of written thing in this game which didn't worked as they should.
    Personally I think some1 should send email directly to dev. in china.

    P.S.
    Finally I found email directly to dev. in china. :-)
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  • FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver Posts: 463 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    What if is it same like with bow critical arrow? It also show +1 critical but it doesn't work. Eye doesn't show critical for each element. What if it show just all together? But what if is it just 1 for each element? Same as I said with bow critical arrow. Also I saw lot of written thing in this game which didn't worked as they should.
    Personally I think some1 should send email directly to dev. in china.

    P.S.
    Finally I found email directly to dev. in china. :-)

    agreed....

    why dont u send the email yourself? =P
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  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    agreed....

    why dont u send the email yourself? =P

    Because my english is not good and I was afraid if I don't explain it properly, but I try.b:thanks
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  • Mage_Fizban - Dreamweaver
    Mage_Fizban - Dreamweaver Posts: 256 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Because my english is not good and I was afraid if I don't explain it properly, but I try.b:thanks

    who cares about your english. let's hope your chinese is good.
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Mage_Fizban - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    who cares about your english. let's hope your chinese is good.

    my chinese suxors

    You think the devs take japanese?
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver Posts: 463 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    my chinese suxors

    You think the devs take japanese?

    dunno, better u learn chinese, japanese and korean,,,,then we MAY get a answer
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  • Sinense - Sanctuary
    Sinense - Sanctuary Posts: 33 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    What if is it same like with bow critical arrow? It also show +1 critical but it doesn't work. Eye doesn't show critical for each element.

    Does eye show crit from arrow?
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Finally I found email directly to dev. in china. :-)

    If that dev responds, that would be an interesting response to read.
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    You should ask if the sage masteries stack :o
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver
    FireWizardEX - Dreamweaver Posts: 463 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    You should ask if the sage masteries stack :o

    lol
    im sure they dont rolf
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  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    You should ask if the sage masteries stack :o

    No it doesn't stack. Before I learned water mastery I did some tests on chickens. Without weapon and with weapon. Without weapon was damage always the same. I used sword at that time there was of course same range of damages. BUT You get just +5% more. Same I did with earth mastery.
    Now I saving spirits for fire mastery. I have wand now so I will do same. With wand the damage increase will be very apparent. I need just 1 more week to save 1.5M spirits. If this thread will be still alive I post my finding. b:pleased
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  • Mustang_Roy - Archosaur
    Mustang_Roy - Archosaur Posts: 219 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    This is strange, I tried the eye of observation, and I have water mastery, and I do not see the extra crit rate. It is not because of the arrow either, because I tried taking it out, and the crit became 10. My toon had:

    2 lunar rings =6 crit
    Neon Purgatory = 2 crit
    Event Belt =1 crit
    Crit Arrow (shows on Eye of obs) =1 crit
    Starting crit = 1crit

    With Water Mastery => still 11 crit
  • Borsuc - Raging Tide
    Borsuc - Raging Tide Posts: 1,526 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Because the crit rate on sheets applies to everything (including auto-attacks), whereas the extra one from masteries only to magic attacks. That's why it doesn't show because you don't have an increased crit rate for everything, just magic attacks.
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