PvP against melles

Magicgabe - Lost City
Magicgabe - Lost City Posts: 225 Arc User
edited January 2010 in Cleric
Ok so I've run into a couple situations while grinding and questing:

1) 9x(10x?) BM jumps on me, stuns, and uses some ultimate to hit me for like 3k
2) 9x Barb tries to kill me, manages to stun me between plume shell while I'm trying to kite him.
3) 2 8x BMs jump on me, one stuns, other dragons, and other sparks and hits me for 3k.

any solutions to these scenarios? BMs who are 10+ lvls higher than me seem to be a problem. I usually get 1k repair costs each time I die and lose 2.5k HP on charm. Kinda costly over time.
and bro...fyi this isn't a story.

All people are idiodic but some are more idiotic than others.
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  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    cant really do much until your also 9x urself <_<

    only thing u can do is get absolute domain on ur genie/ or use vacuity powders. Chances of winning are pretty slim however.
  • Vivre - Harshlands
    Vivre - Harshlands Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Abuse your sleep + seal. Airfight (if you can survive true emptiness). Learn to time your jumps so that you're out of range when they reach you.

    If you know you can't break past their charm, make them waste their time before getting to safe zone, so they're less likely to bother you again (focus on survival).

    I think clerics are extremely strong in 1 v 1s and great at surviving melees (if you dont get greedy with your attacks). Winning versus a whole group is tough for any class though v.v *runs and hides*
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  • Frijolero - Sanctuary
    Frijolero - Sanctuary Posts: 820 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Also you can try take the battle into the air. Unless they have an accelerated boutique aerogear, clerics can outrun them easily even with normal wings and flight mastery. Then you can sleep/stun and sparked/double sparked great cyclone/Tempest them at your leisure.
    Sliding we go, only fear on our side. To the edge of the wire and we rush with the tide.
    Although I'm still alive, pray to God I survive
    How long on this longest day, 'til we finally make it through.
    - June 6, 1944. The day earth stood still.
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  • Vixre - Harshlands
    Vixre - Harshlands Posts: 249 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Also you can try take the battle into the air. Unless they have an accelerated boutique aerogear, clerics can outrun them easily even with normal wings and flight mastery. Then you can sleep/stun and sparked/double sparked great cyclone/Tempest them at your leisure.

    Mmm, I'm not so sure about that, flight mastery only applies to the original elven wings (+0), so after lv10 flight mastery, you get +2.0, still slower than a lot of cash shop / event aeros. Plus theres no fast fly with the original elven wings... so +2.0 is no match for the 6.2 on a gourd or flamedrill.

    @ OP, in 1v1 situations, use your chromatic seal at the first chance, that should buy you some time. Make sure you purify/holypath to get rid of the speed debuff. If you're just completely stun locked for the entire duration, theres nothing much to do except to be more observant, grind with monster dots off, and keep an eye on your radar for green dots. Press T and run through the list for red names, etc etc. But again, if they get a chain of successful stuns, you're out of luck X:

    If you're arcane build, avoid air fights if you can, true emptiness from genies your level can hit upwards of 6k+, unless you really want to risk it =/.
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  • XxLady_XelxX - Dreamweaver
    XxLady_XelxX - Dreamweaver Posts: 455 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    The solution to your particular problem is obvious.

    ...Get more than 3k HP. b:victory

    *Pummeled and dragged off-stage while people whom have an actual clue step up to speak again...possibly*
  • Frijolero - Sanctuary
    Frijolero - Sanctuary Posts: 820 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Mmm, I'm not so sure about that, flight mastery only applies to the original elven wings (+0), so after lv10 flight mastery, you get +2.0, still slower than a lot of cash shop / event aeros. Plus theres no fast fly with the original elven wings... so +2.0 is no match for the 6.2 on a gourd or flamedrill.

    If you're arcane build, avoid air fights if you can, true emptiness from genies your level can hit upwards of 6k+, unless you really want to risk it =/.

    That's why I said unless they don't have a boutique areogear air fight is a good choice. But still, clerics are the slowest on ground compared to melee classes. At least on air speeds could be similar on both, givin' you a slight chance to avoid battle or kittin them to death.

    Anyways, I dont PvP much exept dueling and TW, so I guess you have more exp on PvP than me. I go white named on counted ocations, to help one of my guildies or when someone is too annoying (and he's white named too). I like to lvl up without someone stalkin' me.

    Oh, last night I found if you fly up away, cancel flight to fall down, rinse and repeat is a good chioce to annoy the heck out of an assasin that tries to use his teleport skill on you. I guess you could do the same against BMs and barbs b:laugh
    Sliding we go, only fear on our side. To the edge of the wire and we rush with the tide.
    Although I'm still alive, pray to God I survive
    How long on this longest day, 'til we finally make it through.
    - June 6, 1944. The day earth stood still.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Magicgabe - Lost City
    Magicgabe - Lost City Posts: 225 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I got badge of courage to break stuns. I have yet to actually use it though. I was thinking of something along the lines of badgeofcourage--->guardian light-->flyaway to safezone.
    and bro...fyi this isn't a story.

    All people are idiodic but some are more idiotic than others.
  • XiaoMoShen - Harshlands
    XiaoMoShen - Harshlands Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    That's why I said unless they don't have a boutique areogear air fight is a good choice. But still, clerics are the slowest on ground compared to melee classes. At least on air speeds could be similar on both, givin' you a slight chance to avoid battle or kittin them to death.

    Anyways, I dont PvP much exept dueling and TW, so I guess you have more exp on PvP than me. I go white named on counted ocations, to help one of my guildies or when someone is too annoying (and he's white named too). I like to lvl up without someone stalkin' me.

    Oh, last night I found if you fly up away, cancel flight to fall down, rinse and repeat is a good chioce to annoy the heck out of an assasin that tries to use his teleport skill on you. I guess you could do the same against BMs and barbs b:laugh

    Do you know what happens if ure falling down and u got stunned? o.O u keep falling down or stop in the air with the stun?
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  • Vixre - Harshlands
    Vixre - Harshlands Posts: 249 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Do you know what happens if ure falling down and u got stunned? o.O u keep falling down or stop in the air with the stun?

    If you're stunned in mid-fall, you'll be stun locked and once again be on an aero when you come out of the stun. So make sure you press your fly key *again*. Or do what i did, put the aero as a hotkey, and press it to un-equip your aero xD. It doesn't prevent you from being frozen as a result of a stunlock, but as soon as you come out of the stunlock, you free fall due to the lack of an aero.
    The solution to your particular problem is obvious.

    ...Get more than 3k HP. b:victory

    I'm not sure if this would be his permanent solution xD but it worked for me in a fight today, a lv89+ barb used ToP + Armageddon on me, and dealt 4.1k damage, luckily i had 4.4k HP unbuffed S: charm tick saved the day.
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  • Frijolero - Sanctuary
    Frijolero - Sanctuary Posts: 820 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Do you know what happens if ure falling down and u got stunned? o.O u keep falling down or stop in the air with the stun?
    If you're stunned in mid-fall, you'll be stun locked and once again be on an aero when you come out of the stun. So make sure you press your fly key *again*. Or do what i did, put the aero as a hotkey, and press it to un-equip your aero xD. It doesn't prevent you from being frozen as a result of a stunlock, but as soon as you come out of the stunlock, you free fall due to the lack of an aero.

    Vixre is right, you'll still be stunned (and also on havin they fly button on a hotkey, works for me too b:victory), but I haven't confired myself if the stun will put you back on your aerogear.
    The trick is to go up as fast as you can, and cancel flight right before he reaches you (the fall speed will give you more chances to be outside his skill range rather running or flying), hit the gound, fly again, repeat.
    Also you can start flying again on mid-fall or a few moment before hit the ground if you are high enough to increase the distance between you and your attacker cause he won't be able to react fast enough to fly again when he see you.
    Sliding we go, only fear on our side. To the edge of the wire and we rush with the tide.
    Although I'm still alive, pray to God I survive
    How long on this longest day, 'til we finally make it through.
    - June 6, 1944. The day earth stood still.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Vivre - Harshlands
    Vivre - Harshlands Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I'm almost 100% sure on this: if you're falling when you get stunned, you'll fall right after stun wears off.
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