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  • Xgrinch - Dreamweaver
    Xgrinch - Dreamweaver Posts: 95 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    More high level players = more reason for PWI to report about it to head office with statistics. More reasons for head office to release more content for higher levels.
  • DemoTest - Lost City
    DemoTest - Lost City Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Xgrinch - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    More high level players = more reason for PWI to report about it to head office with statistics. More reasons for head office to release more content for higher levels then put the content in packs.

    I fixed it for you.
  • FatherTed - Dreamweaver
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,723 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    My point is that someone who gets to level 90 just doing dailies as a new player will not have nearly the amount of coin as someone who got to level 90 through normal grinding. Certainly not all, but a solid number of them will make up the difference by charging zen to sell.

    Also, a higher level char is more likely to spend serious time upgrading their gear, which uses orbs of course. Even if they buy the orbs with coin, someone had to buy the orbs from the boutique in the first place.

    Anyway, I agree with you that two weeks of this is a terrible idea - but I suppose there's nothing to do but see how it works out.
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  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Is this a correct summary of the viewponts? Or did I miss something or someones?

    - TT Suppliers - Those that farm TT and resell. These will not like the 2 weeks, since TT mat prices will go down and demand will go down.

    - TT Buyers - Those that buy TT mats. This group will enjoy the 2 weeks, since TT mat prices will go down.

    - TT Direct-Users - Those that farm TT for mats and use them directly. This group will enjoy the 2 weeks, since TT mat drop rates will go up.

    - Anti-easy leveling folks - Those that dislike the fact that it is now easy to reach high level. This group will not like the 2 weeks.

    - Opportunists - "Wisdom comes from finding opportunities that dilemmas provide." These are the folks that will save up on Ultimate Substances (and other stuff) beforehand and sell them at a profit during the 2x week. This group will enjoy the 2 weeks.
  • Xgrinch - Dreamweaver
    Xgrinch - Dreamweaver Posts: 95 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    DemoTest - Lost City wrote: »
    I fixed it for you.

    Let me put on my tinfoil hat.
    There.
    Sure, packs are there to get you. And PWI remains free for bunch of folks just because they are love and caring folks who feed on prana.
  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »
    .... Lots of stuff I tend to agree with.....

    Asian mmos have always been grind-fests, where it is all but impossible to get end-game gear or max level, their content tends to deminish towards end-game, with things such as quests becoming very few and far between. Since the drop rates for "ultimate" gear are abyssmal, there really is no time to do quests, since you have to grind that gear somehow.

    American mmos are made for quick rewards, where everyeone has a max level character and wears "ultra-rare" gear, since the rare gear is actualy as common as regular gear. They also offer the most content for end-game, since they expect all their players to run around with a maxed out character until the following expansion.


    In my opinion, PW took the worse aspects of both models and made it come to life in our game.... So we will have ultra-fast leveling and very common "rare" gear together with absolutely no content after level 90...... In the other hand... maybe I will actualy make it to level 95 before next year...

    So meanwhile... LFS: FF, Lunar, TT, and wave 3 of RB (for quest).
    Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.
  • Xgrinch - Dreamweaver
    Xgrinch - Dreamweaver Posts: 95 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Is this a correct summary of the viewponts? Or did I miss something or someones?

    - TT Suppliers - Those that farm TT and resell. These will not like the 2 weeks, since TT mat prices will go down and demand will go down.

    - TT Buyers - Those that buy TT mats. This group will enjoy the 2 weeks, since TT mat prices will go down.

    - TT Direct-Users - Those that farm TT for mats and use them directly. This group will enjoy the 2 weeks, since TT mat drop rates will go up.

    - Anti-easy leveling folks - Those that dislike the fact that it is now easy to reach high level. This group will not like the 2 weeks.

    - Opportunists - "Wisdom comes from finding opportunities that dilemmas provide." These are the folks that will save up on Ultimate Substances (and other stuff) beforehand and sell them at a profit during the 2x week. This group will enjoy the 2 weeks.

    EXP junkies - They will be running FC 25/7 to get to that mysterious goal.
  • Scutillette - Sanctuary
    Scutillette - Sanctuary Posts: 69 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Xgrinch - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Yay! We made it.
    <snip>
    ...so how many times did you refresh your browser to get a screencap of when it hit precisely 50k? ;)
  • Xgrinch - Dreamweaver
    Xgrinch - Dreamweaver Posts: 95 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Scutillette - Sanctuary wrote: »
    ...so how many times did you refresh your browser to get a screencap of when it hit precisely 50k? ;)

    Only twice - 49 999 and 50 000 b:chuckle
    I was busy with Facebook being a pain and giving me "Oops. Something went wrong" error on other page. b:angry
  • ChaoticTears - Harshlands
    ChaoticTears - Harshlands Posts: 323 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Toad - Lost City wrote: »
    Ridiculous prices? Do you even know the cost and amount of time it takes to farm High Lvl HH? Not to mention, most of the time, the drop rate is **** and sometimes boss don't even drop a single mat.

    People complaining about x2 TT's drop are TBH only thinking of themselves and their wallet, and not whats good for the rest of the player base who dont farm TT and just want to get to be able to get their own gear.

    TBH TT/Lunar/FB bosses should have been the ONLY thing that has double drops, they dont cause inflation like double DQ/GC drops do.

    x2 TT drops dont cause prices to rise so is good for all but farmers.
    Double DQ/GC drops hmmm now thats where the problem is
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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Asian mmos have always been grind-fests, where it is all but impossible to get end-game gear or max level, their content tends to deminish towards end-game, with things such as quests becoming very few and far between. Since the drop rates for "ultimate" gear are abyssmal, there really is no time to do quests, since you have to grind that gear somehow.

    American mmos are made for quick rewards, where everyeone has a max level character and wears "ultra-rare" gear, since the rare gear is actualy as common as regular gear. They also offer the most content for end-game, since they expect all their players to run around with a maxed out character until the following expansion.


    In my opinion, PW took the worse aspects of both models and made it come to life in our game.... So we will have ultra-fast leveling and very common "rare" gear together with absolutely no content after level 90...... In the other hand... maybe I will actualy make it to level 95 before next year...

    So meanwhile... LFS: FF, Lunar, TT, and wave 3 of RB (for quest).

    lol agreed...especially on PvE servers. they released nirvana and that could've been part of endgame content, but then they trolled everyone who tried with packs. i personally think people who are charging like crazy to level are delusional. there is literally nothing to do at higher levels other than daily unless you have the money to PvP and a lot of time on your hands.
    Elena Costel: I wash my hands of this affair.
    Legerity: *drags you back* *stains your hands with said affair*
    Elena Costel: Noooo... I don't want to have a dirty affair with Lady Legerity...
    Qui: b:dirty
  • Maiya - Lost City
    Maiya - Lost City Posts: 2,686 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Grats I suppose. I won't really even be farming TT or grinding to see the effects due to my new semester of school. So have fun to whoever wanted it.
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    ChaoticTears - Harshlands wrote: »
    People complaining about x2 TT's drop are TBH only thinking of themselves and their wallet, and not whats good for the rest of the player base who dont farm TT and just want to get to be able to get their own gear.

    Not true...I for one DO NOT use HH mats for $$....I find there are much faster and easier ways to make a good profit and not have to share with others. Not that I never have, but I change things up based on what I see selling and what people are buying. Right not HH mats are on a freeze because people know the 2x was potentially going to happen.
    Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »
    lol agreed...especially on PvE servers. they released nirvana and that could've been part of endgame content, but then they trolled everyone who tried with packs. i personally think people who are charging like crazy to level are delusional. there is literally nothing to do at higher levels other than daily unless you have the money to PvP and a lot of time on your hands

    Agreed....I was soooo excited about Nirvana and in fact I have farmed quite a bit. but to add something for 100+ to do, a larger goal and then put in packs *sigh* It was predicted by many b:surrender....I will still farm it though, I will not rely on packs and money to get my gear.
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    RoidAbuse is awesome, only he would sell his sperm for gear!!

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  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    ChaoticTears - Harshlands wrote: »
    People complaining about x2 TT's drop are TBH only thinking of themselves and their wallet, and not whats good for the rest of the player base who dont farm TT and just want to get to be able to get their own gear.

    TBH TT/Lunar/FB bosses should have been the ONLY thing that has double drops, they dont cause inflation like double DQ/GC drops do.

    x2 TT drops dont cause prices to rise so is good for all but farmers.
    Double DQ/GC drops hmmm now thats where the problem is

    I am soo glad someone else gets it...

    TT/Lunar and molds, just shifts coins between players, since nobody npcs those items, therefore they do not increase the coin supply in-game. DQ/GC items are for the most part npced, which generates "free coins", which increase the money supply, which causes inflation.
    Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.
  • Vexille - Harshlands
    Vexille - Harshlands Posts: 141 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    50080 fans now...
    Congrats, we made it! b:victory
    Time to farm TT, FC! b:chuckle
  • HeavensWing - Sanctuary
    HeavensWing - Sanctuary Posts: 192 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I for one..am PRETTY HAPPY. Ive been waiting for this forever so i can farm TT80
    Getting an Early start on Armor and STUNNING AXES b:dirty so im ready. Im not PLANNING on making money off this, but if it happens it happens :P
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    As for Shadow Escape. "I am sin, I Shadow Escape on a boss, Boss attacks cleric and squad wipes. Lolol im pro fish".


    ^ So pro b:victory ^
  • _Pinku_ - Dreamweaver
    _Pinku_ - Dreamweaver Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    YAY thanks soo much everyone for making it possible to get the 50k people signed up to pwi facebook. Can't wait for that 2x exp and drops. Everyone who signed up YOU ROCK! b:laughb:victory
  • Raikena - Sanctuary
    Raikena - Sanctuary Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Goodbye farming TT for money b:sadb:bye i wonder if the TT market will ever recover. The x2 drops from the weekend were bad enough. Not sure if the prices will be the same again b:sad.
    The TT market recovery is going to take longer then the recession b:chuckle
  • rikako
    rikako Posts: 340 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    good bye werefoxes making unlimited money by farming tt b:byeb:bye
  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Xgrinch - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Let me put on my tinfoil hat.
    There.

    i would much rather pay 5 gold for a tinfoil hat than doofy emo-tideborn hair, can we get this item in the boutique plx?
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  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    rikako wrote: »
    good bye werefoxes making unlimited money by farming tt b:byeb:bye

    since every class can make far more money than a veno farming TT, your comment makes no sense....

    In addition, the event provides double drops, so, even if mats fall to half price, they should still make about the same as before. What is even more interesting, the one item that gets the most benefit from the double-drops on the boss it the gold mat they can drop, so, in fact, that werefox farming TT during the event, can potential actualy make far more coin now than before, by getting the gold mats more often.

    Although, even with this event, anyway that wants to make serious money will not be farming anything, and instead will be playing the market.
    Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.
  • Raikena - Sanctuary
    Raikena - Sanctuary Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    rikako wrote: »
    good bye werefoxes making unlimited money by farming tt b:byeb:bye

    Every class can farm TT b:surrender and also if people didnt farm TT im pretty sure people would find it harder to get gear b:surrender
  • Xgrinch - Dreamweaver
    Xgrinch - Dreamweaver Posts: 95 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    i would much rather pay 5 gold for a tinfoil hat than doofy emo-tideborn hair, can we get this item in the boutique plx?

    Great idea!
    50\50 profit share? : )
    BTW, GM said in one of Facebook posts, that more head stuff is coming.
  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Xgrinch - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Great idea!
    50\50 profit share? : )
    BTW, GM said in one of Facebook posts, that more head stuff is coming.

    I hope so, I am saving for a witch's pointy black hat.... and a broom aerogear
    Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.
  • Meeplk - Harshlands
    Meeplk - Harshlands Posts: 461 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    we acctualy did it? this must be a lie! b:cry *gets alt ready for tt farming*
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    magic mmmb:dirty
  • Xgrinch - Dreamweaver
    Xgrinch - Dreamweaver Posts: 95 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Meeplk - Harshlands wrote: »
    we acctualy did it? this must be a lie! b:cry *gets alt ready for tt farming*

    Yeah, we actually did it. And number is still rising. My FB friends joined too : )
    Hey, GMs, maybe we can get a bonus for making more than 50k fans? : )
  • PsychoChickn - Dreamweaver
    PsychoChickn - Dreamweaver Posts: 107 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    50,135 fans Yeap, looks like we made it.
  • NoSkills - Dreamweaver
    NoSkills - Dreamweaver Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Have my Herc and 120 subs ready :)
    Squad mode and alone ofc..

    Edit: And of course i wait till this 2x is over and then selling those mats in normal price.. No sense selling em cheaper.
  • XylolyX - Heavens Tear
    XylolyX - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,097 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    since every class can make far more money than a veno farming TT, your comment makes no sense....

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....Sorry Jaz...Barbs don't make more money than a veno. But thanks for the laugh.
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  • Toad - Lost City
    Toad - Lost City Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    ChaoticTears - Harshlands wrote: »
    People complaining about x2 TT's drop are TBH only thinking of themselves and their wallet, and not whats good for the rest of the player base who dont farm TT and just want to get to be able to get their own gear.

    TBH TT/Lunar/FB bosses should have been the ONLY thing that has double drops, they dont cause inflation like double DQ/GC drops do.

    x2 TT drops dont cause prices to rise so is good for all but farmers.
    Double DQ/GC drops hmmm now thats where the problem is

    b:laugh Hypocrite much? The same can be said for people who are just thinking of themselves and their lvl. Not what's good for the rest of the player base who do farms TT and just want to get to be able to sell their own mats.
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