Help with two low lvl pets

Blutend - Harshlands
Blutend - Harshlands Posts: 22 Arc User
edited January 2010 in Venomancer
I have a question about what pet is better for low level.

I have two main pets, and I use them for tanking, but more as damage dealers, so I would like your opinion about them.

PET 1: DESERT WASPKIN. Level 20 Pet. Taken on Level 12
STATS:
HP: 519
Phys. Res: 1228
Phys. Attk: 284
Attk. Rate: 0.60/sec
Evade: 300
Accuracy: 450


PET 2: CRYSTALINE MAGMITE. Level 19 Pet. Taken on Level 17
STATS:
HP: 627
Phys. Res: 1692
Phys. Attk: 230
Attk. Rate: 0.60/sec
Evade: 214
Accuracy: 289


Ok, as we can see, the Magmite is better as tanking: much more HP and Phys.Def. The Waspkin, is much more better as Damage Dealer, since it has more Phys.Attk. and A LOT more Accuracy.

I think the Accuracy is quite important. Many time, the magmite misses the enemy (well, not many times, but more than the waspkin).

So, definetely, what would it worths to level up? I want a balanced Pet, not only a tank, just a good damage dealer, that can hold any normal enemy his level or one or two more levels.

What's your opinion?

Thanks for tips :-)
Post edited by Blutend - Harshlands on

Comments

  • Vitenka - Dreamweaver
    Vitenka - Dreamweaver Posts: 4,125 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    See that bigass "What's the best pet" thread? That thread.

    Yes, the flying pet does more damage.
    Yes the magmite is the better tank, and still deals decent damage (attack speed is a bigger thing than accuracy though)

    Flypets can't be used in dungeons - that's a big thing to take account of.


    Ending thought? Neither of those are the cookie cutter 'best' pet at their job, both are perfectly decent, and you need both a flying pet and a land pet. They'll both serve you fine.
  • Blutend - Harshlands
    Blutend - Harshlands Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    See that bigass "What's the best pet" thread? That thread.

    Yes, the flying pet does more damage.
    Yes the magmite is the better tank, and still deals decent damage (attack speed is a bigger thing than accuracy though)

    Flypets can't be used in dungeons - that's a big thing to take account of.


    Ending thought? Neither of those are the cookie cutter 'best' pet at their job, both are perfectly decent, and you need both a flying pet and a land pet. They'll both serve you fine.

    I'm not asking what pet is better...
    I'm asking if those both pets are good, and if Waspkin worths to level it up, or the magmite is way better that the Wasp.

    That's all.
  • Vitenka - Dreamweaver
    Vitenka - Dreamweaver Posts: 4,125 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I'm not asking what pet is better...

    ...or the magmite is way better that the Wasp.

    How is that not asking if the magmite is better?

    Yes, the waspkin is fine. It's not the top fly pet.

    Are you, in the long run, going to get a phoenix?
    If so - then you might as well just grab a fly pet as and when you need it to kill flying quest mobs.
    If not, then pretty much any of the low-end flyers will do well enough.
  • Blutend - Harshlands
    Blutend - Harshlands Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    How is that not asking if the magmite is better?

    Yes, the waspkin is fine. It's not the top fly pet.

    Are you, in the long run, going to get a phoenix?
    If so - then you might as well just grab a fly pet as and when you need it to kill flying quest mobs.
    If not, then pretty much any of the low-end flyers will do well enough.

    Yes, i will take a Phoenix, as it looks like it is a good DD pet. Although as you told (i didn't know) flying pets can't be used in Dungeons.

    Definetely, i will use Wasp/Nix as general damage dealer, but also have to lvl up the Magmite/Herc for tanking and Dungeon-ing matters.

    Right now, I use the wasp until it lvl up, then i switch to magmite, so i have the both pets at same level, and as i realize that they cannot be higher lvl than me, i always keep them both the higher lvl possible.

    [EDIT]

    I also noticed that the Waspkin has a lot more MDef, so for magic attack mobs, it should be better than magmite. I'm wrong?
  • Vitenka - Dreamweaver
    Vitenka - Dreamweaver Posts: 4,125 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I also noticed that the Waspkin has a lot more MDef, so for magic attack mobs, it should be better than magmite. I'm wrong?

    Oh, you should certainly be able to keep two pets at your level.

    You're half right about the mdef. The lower hitpoints will be an issue, however - as well as there being very few magic-only bosses anywhere in the game, let alone outdoors.

    Edit: Indeed, I can't think of ANY bosses, unless you can fight solely from range. You may find good luck fighting pyromancers though. And you'd be surprised at what the 'nix can tank...
  • Blutend - Harshlands
    Blutend - Harshlands Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Oh, you should certainly be able to keep two pets at your level.

    You're half right about the mdef. The lower hitpoints will be an issue, however - as well as there being very few magic-only bosses anywhere in the game, let alone outdoors.

    You are correct. The Magmite is able to Tank up to 3 Werewolves Spearmans (Lvl 24 close combat mobs). The Waspkin, can only tank 2 of them... with one pet heal. On the other hand, with the waspkin i kill mobs my same level in nearly half the time.

    I think for single normal mob, the waspkin wins, but for more that one (and maybe a Elite/Boss), a better option is the Magmite (maybe this can be translated to Nix/Herc. I know little about such pets).
  • Vitenka - Dreamweaver
    Vitenka - Dreamweaver Posts: 4,125 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    You are correct. The Magmite is able to Tank up to 3 Werewolves Spearmans (Lvl 24 close combat mobs). The Waspkin, can only tank 2 of them... with one pet heal. On the other hand, with the waspkin i kill mobs my same level in nearly half the time.

    I think for single normal mob, the waspkin wins, but for more that one (and maybe a Elite/Boss), a better option is the Magmite (maybe this can be translated to Nix/Herc. I know little about such pets).

    Well, monsters of my levels - I'd have trouble tanking more than 5 on a nix, and more than 14 on the herc begins to get dicey. So yes, you've got the basic idea, just scale it up :)

    There ARE land pets which kill as fast as the fliers - the scorpion is a good example - you might like to throw that into consideration, depending on how many pets you want to worry about.
  • Blutend - Harshlands
    Blutend - Harshlands Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    [...]

    There ARE land pets which kill as fast as the fliers - the scorpion is a good example - you might like to throw that into consideration, depending on how many pets you want to worry about.

    How about a Flyer pet (sawfly, nix, etc...), high DPS, able to attack in air and in ground. Not a tank, just for PvP or generic PvE.
    Another Ground pet for tanking purposes: Magmite/Herc/Whatever... Will be using as tank for AoE Grindind, aswell as Dungeon-ing.
    And a Water Pet, for such annoying water quests etc...

    Does that covers all a venomancer needs? Or may i need another type of pet?
  • Vitenka - Dreamweaver
    Vitenka - Dreamweaver Posts: 4,125 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Well yeah - you need a ground an air and a water at various times.

    You don't need the air and water ones very often.

    There's a few special pets, such as the ranged ones, which are worth considering - and it can be useful to have a dedicated debuff pet sometimes.
  • Blutend - Harshlands
    Blutend - Harshlands Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Ok, thnx for tips.
    I will take into account for future pets.