Need help fast!!!

Oneshotu - Lost City
Oneshotu - Lost City Posts: 267 Arc User
edited January 2010 in Archer
So I'm about to hit 80.
I'm buying a HH80 green xbow.
Chained jail which has chance of stun is in AU for 5.5mill(plus 4)
What % of a stun does it have?
Sould freeze plus 5 in AU is 6mill(what % of freeze does it have)

BTW Chained jails stats are plus 13 dex and strength
Soul freeze has pls 12 vit and phy attack, help me!!!
So the Dead guy says "LOL you fail, you didnt even one shot me"
Nuf said.
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  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    The common assumption is that weapon procs trigger 5% of the time.

    This percentage has been confirmed with Gloom on Crimson Horn: Soulsmasher, and it is reasonable to assume this applies to all weapons.
  • Oneshotu - Lost City
    Oneshotu - Lost City Posts: 267 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    But which Bow do i get, chain jail or soul freeze?(chain is plus 4, soul freeze is plus 5)
    chain is 5.5mill, soul freeze is 6mill
    So the Dead guy says "LOL you fail, you didnt even one shot me"
    Nuf said.
  • Elviron - Dreamweaver
    Elviron - Dreamweaver Posts: 812 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Chained Jail FTW!!!

    Reason: That 13 dex and Str would give u better results than that extra +1 on the refine. Besides I always liked stun and you could always restat that str into dex till youre gonna need more str like at 88 when u need the str for the LA.
  • Oneshotu - Lost City
    Oneshotu - Lost City Posts: 267 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Elviron - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Chained Jail FTW!!!

    Reason: That 13 dex and Str would give u better results than that extra +1 on the refine. Besides I always liked stun and you could always restat that str into dex till youre gonna need more str like at 88 when u need the str for the LA.

    True but from plus 4 to plus 5 is 18 gold <.<
    So the Dead guy says "LOL you fail, you didnt even one shot me"
    Nuf said.
  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Oneshotu - Lost City wrote: »
    But which Bow do i get, chain jail or soul freeze?(chain is plus 4, soul freeze is plus 5)
    chain is 5.5mill, soul freeze is 6mill

    I cannot answer that; I do not PvP =)
  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    chain jail is the best weapon for pvp at 80... simply because of its extra stat points and the stun. and yes... 5% proac on the stun sounds about right. keep in mind it'll still (have a chance of) proac on skills and even when you miss the target.
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  • Elviron - Dreamweaver
    Elviron - Dreamweaver Posts: 812 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Oneshotu - Lost City wrote: »
    True but from plus 4 to plus 5 is 18 gold <.<

    My point was that you do need that +5 b:laugh

    +4 to +5 is a meagre 26 additional atk

    How much attack do you think that your 13 dex and STR restated into Dex gonna give you? Definitely more than 26.
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    grats oneshotu on getting to 80~ (or soon enough)
    xD
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  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Elviron - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    My point was that you do need that +5 b:laugh

    +4 to +5 is a meagre 26 additional atk

    How much attack do you think that your 13 dex and STR restated into Dex gonna give you? Definitely more than 26.

    It is not that straightforward.

    The 26 weapon damage (if that's the correct number) gets multiplied by Dex / 150, Bow Mastery, and Blazing Arrow.

    The 13 Dex gets divided by 150 and then is multiplied by the weapon damage.

    You'd need to break out the archer formual or use PWI calc to verify.
  • Oneshotu - Lost City
    Oneshotu - Lost City Posts: 267 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    It is not that straightforward.

    The 26 weapon damage (if that's the correct number) gets multiplied by Dex / 150, Bow Mastery, and Blazing Arrow.

    The 13 Dex gets divided by 150 and then is multiplied by the weapon damage.

    You'd need to break out the archer formual or use PWI calc to verify.

    Thats what I was thinking and plus the soulfreeze has plus 68 damage or something similar. I think I'm going to go for the chain jail but idk thanks for the help.
    So the Dead guy says "LOL you fail, you didnt even one shot me"
    Nuf said.
  • Oneshotu - Lost City
    Oneshotu - Lost City Posts: 267 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    grats oneshotu on getting to 80~ (or soon enough)
    xD

    ThankYoub:thanks, I have been 7x for 3 to 5 monthsb:surrender
    So the Dead guy says "LOL you fail, you didnt even one shot me"
    Nuf said.
  • Elviron - Dreamweaver
    Elviron - Dreamweaver Posts: 812 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    It is not that straightforward.

    The 26 weapon damage (if that's the correct number) gets multiplied by Dex / 150, Bow Mastery, and Blazing Arrow.

    The 13 Dex gets divided by 150 and then is multiplied by the weapon damage.

    You'd need to break out the archer formual or use PWI calc to verify.

    True. I forgot about the weapon damage thingy.

    In any case, I'd take extra dex and forget about that 1 less refine since i'd be done with it soon enough.

    In either case, my weapon choices for 80 werent that great. +3 Soulsmasher with immac garnet (made it for a pretty low cost ~5 mils or so) and Flashfire in the making.
  • AngleSnipe - Heavens Tear
    AngleSnipe - Heavens Tear Posts: 178 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Definitely go for chained jail for pvp purposes, and even for pve that stun effect is just too great to overlook. Had chained jail in my 8x and loved that bow :)
  • Hellsarcher - Harshlands
    Hellsarcher - Harshlands Posts: 965 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    times like this is wish some archers played on harshlands...coulda sold you a +7 chain jail b:sad it is amazingin pvp through 8x and if you get a lucky stun lock with it...its great
  • System
    System Posts: 316 mod
    edited January 2010
    Is chained jail a lot better than flash fire?

    I'm kinda thinkin bout getting Broad Land at 85, I don't wanna go for the effort of getting chained jail, only to use it for 5 levels
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Oneshotu - Lost City wrote: »
    ThankYoub:thanks, I have been 7x for 3 to 5 monthsb:surrender

    o.o'
    ._.'
    you has been level 7x since me was level 1?
    b:shocked
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  • Olba - Sanctuary
    Olba - Sanctuary Posts: 1,776 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    DarkHam - Harshlands wrote: »
    Is chained jail a lot better than flash fire?

    Well, same damage, same refines, same +dex, so the only real difference is the 1% crit on Flash Fire and the fact that they go to different weapons on 90.
    I'm kinda thinkin bout getting Broad Land at 85, I don't wanna go for the effort of getting chained jail, only to use it for 5 levels

    Then don't? Though, if you level regularly and don't already have several millions, you're more than likely to be past 85 before you get Broad Land.
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  • Hellsarcher - Harshlands
    Hellsarcher - Harshlands Posts: 965 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    i used a broad land 85-89 it is a great weopon and when unrelenting procs on a robe..it hurt them..i didnt mind the phy def drop doesnt last long and it is still a great way to buff your damage before 90
  • AngleSnipe - Heavens Tear
    AngleSnipe - Heavens Tear Posts: 178 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Hellsarcher - Harshlands wrote: »
    i used a broad land 85-89 it is a great weopon and when unrelenting procs on a robe..it hurt them..i didnt mind the phy def drop doesnt last long and it is still a great way to buff your damage before 90

    A 15m weapon (1 soc no refine) for 4 levels hmm....
  • Smobo - Heavens Tear
    Smobo - Heavens Tear Posts: 386 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    AngleSnipe - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    A 15m weapon (1 soc no refine) for 4 levels hmm....

    It doesn't bind, thus you invest 15m, you don't spend it. It can always be sold later, you simply lose the convinence of having 15m in cash form.
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  • hemoglobin
    hemoglobin Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    im about to get chained jail too...hopefully
  • AngleSnipe - Heavens Tear
    AngleSnipe - Heavens Tear Posts: 178 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Smobo - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    It doesn't bind, thus you invest 15m, you don't spend it. It can always be sold later, you simply lose the convinence of having 15m in cash form.

    inconvenient for just 4 levels

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