Who's Easyr to fight?

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  • Sevas - Heavens Tear
    Sevas - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,132 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    For PvP (against your own level):
    (Easiest)
    Arcane Veno

    I am an Arcane Veno and I know other AA Venos on my server who are extremely good at PvP, they'd have to be if they are ranked in the PvP list. I have not PvPed very much, but you must not have met some very good venos if you claim they are easiest to kill. (Vit/Mag AA Build Veno)
  • Drunken_Chu - Dreamweaver
    Drunken_Chu - Dreamweaver Posts: 257 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    before level 90 I was able to kill any cleric/wiz/archer/aa-la veno with just roar of the pride relentless courage lol. But now EVERYONE is tough. Usually aa-la venos are the easiest to kill, but the ones who actually know what they are doing ****. So next I would have to say clerics. Archers are pretty even, it really comes down to a whoever gets in the first attack. Wizards are ANNOYING with all that distance shrinking and sealing they do ><
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Sevas - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I am an Arcane Veno and I know other AA Venos on my server who are extremely good at PvP, they'd have to be if they are ranked in the PvP list. I have not PvPed very much, but you must not have met some very good venos if you claim they are easiest to kill. (Vit/Mag AA Build Veno)

    Most AA and LA venos are on the rankings for killing lowbies or people under their level, just like archers. As a matter of fact, I don't know a single person that's ever made the rankings without lowbie killing sprees.

    As an arcane, if you don't admit you're afraid of BMs, you're lying, no matter how good at PvP you might be. All you can do to a BM of your level is send pet, stun triple spark and hope you kill them, otherwise your AA doesn't protect you from physical damage at all, even if you're fully pdef sharded. All I need to do is get you in a stun and it's usually over.

    AA and LA venos are pushovers to me. Heavy venos scare me. :P
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  • Magicgabe - Lost City
    Magicgabe - Lost City Posts: 225 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    wouldn't PvP be very dependent on which weapons you could/couldn't use and what types of stats you had. and also what type of genie you had. and also what type of gear you have. BM seem to have a lot of variance.
    and bro...fyi this isn't a story.

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  • TerminatorX - Lost City
    TerminatorX - Lost City Posts: 65 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Sins, imo, are easiest.

    Or Clerics :P But that's not rly serious anyway.
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  • Yulk - Heavens Tear
    Yulk - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,951 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    A sin who knows how to play their class would have no troubles with LA or AA. I imagine that must have been a pretty fail sin.

    I should of screenied that, was funny xD.
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Most AA and LA venos are on the rankings for killing lowbies or people under their level, just like archers. As a matter of fact, I don't know a single person that's ever made the rankings without lowbie killing sprees.

    As an arcane, if you don't admit you're afraid of BMs, you're lying, no matter how good at PvP you might be. All you can do to a BM of your level is send pet, stun triple spark and hope you kill them, otherwise your AA doesn't protect you from physical damage at all, even if you're fully pdef sharded. All I need to do is get you in a stun and it's usually over.

    AA and LA venos are pushovers to me. Heavy venos scare me. :P

    No comment on the first paragraph.

    Second paragraph, you might be right or wrong. Up close arcane or LA (without defense bonuses on LA) with human form is not supposed to get hit. Why would a low defense ranged character stand there and try tanking physical attacks with arcane robes? That makes no sense at all, its like a LVL1 trying to solo sword tamer.
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    VIT > STR > DEX > MAG... GG
    HA > LA > AR... GG

    HA + VIT = win b:bye
  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    what i find odd is why people assume arcane classes are jello. garnet/pdef equipped robies can have an easy 10k+ defense with buffs. its quite an easy feat to kill a moron citrine gemmed wizard, but pack one with garnets and a level 11 stone barrier and you have yourself a force to be reckoned with.
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  • Yulk - Heavens Tear
    Yulk - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,951 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    what i find odd is why people assume arcane classes are jello. garnet/pdef equipped robies can have an easy 10k+ defense with buffs. its quite an easy feat to kill a moron citrine gemmed wizard, but pack one with garnets and a level 11 stone barrier and you have yourself a force to be reckoned with.

    I hate to say this, but Waffefail is right. If I were to ever PVP, which is never. I will get my dual blades / swords, fists, poles, HA and LA prepared (still do for PVE).

    I think barbs would be a better choice for easiest fight, they are slowest killers after all from many classes. bms have 2 stuns, 3 if using axes. If you manage to get that barb buy enough time for your sutra to kick in. Then the barb might lose, I remembered dueling barb on this char to test out leaps too, they do work for leaping away and using drake's ray and far strike and spark too (I done only drake's ray and spark). I didn't choose, its just my thought that barbs make the easiest challenge. It was a test out, so didn't really focus on battle
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    VIT > STR > DEX > MAG... GG
    HA > LA > AR... GG

    HA + VIT = win b:bye
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    What kind of weak **** Clerics do you people fight?b:scorn
  • Asperitas - Lost City
    Asperitas - Lost City Posts: 907 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I hate to say this, but Waffefail is right. If I were to ever PVP, which is never. I will get my dual blades / swords, fists, poles, HA and LA prepared (still do for PVE).

    I think barbs would be a better choice for easiest fight, they are slowest killers after all from many classes. bms have 2 stuns, 3 if using axes. If you manage to get that barb buy enough time for your sutra to kick in. Then the barb might lose, I remembered dueling barb on this char to test out leaps too, they do work for leaping away and using drake's ray and far strike and spark too (I done only drake's ray and spark). I didn't choose, its just my thought that barbs make the easiest challenge. It was a test out, so didn't really focus on battle

    You can't perfectly transfer duel experience to PVP. With that said, I think that pretty much renders your arguments about barbs null.

    20k+ hp, charmed, is not something easily taken down. By the way, armageddon doesn't hurt?
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  • Damaged - Lost City
    Damaged - Lost City Posts: 460 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Easiest to hardest

    Archer
    BM
    Barb
    Other mage
    Arcane Veno with a brain that uses pvp pots wisely
    Vit cleric with over 9k hp charmed, using pvp pots with a pro genie that spam heals themselves for all eternity before sleeping you and running to SZ
  • Divine_Death - Dreamweaver
    Divine_Death - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,491 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Damaged - Lost City wrote: »
    Easiest to hardest

    Archer
    BM
    Barb
    Other mage
    Arcane Veno with a brain that uses pvp pots wisely
    Vit cleric with over 9k hp charmed, using pvp pots with a pro genie that spam heals themselves for all eternity before sleeping you and running to SZ

    Easier as in from a BM's point of view b:sweat.
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    What kind of weak **** Clerics do you people fight?b:scorn

    *Cough* let's play Zan (once I get back in a couple of days b:cry).
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  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    What kind of weak **** Clerics do you people fight?b:scorn
    ones with a full set of perfect citrined armor and think their 8k hp with 3 vit is rad, only to die in a stun-> demon take aim.
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    advice to fledgling archers:
    Going sage is like drunken sex, at first she may look good, but when you wake up the next morning; you'll look at her and go WHAT HAVE I DONE.
  • Axels - Harshlands
    Axels - Harshlands Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Micheal dark, I whooped a sin as my LA veno at same LVL in duel. He had his quest gear, I had my glacial walker (no PVP pet XD) and sucky light armor fox tank veno. He was kinda QQing about it too.
    Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I hate to say this, but Waffefail is right. If I were to ever PVP, which is never. I will get my dual blades / swords, fists, poles, HA and LA prepared (still do for PVE).

    ....enough said b:chuckle
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    what i find odd is why people assume arcane classes are jello. garnet/pdef equipped robies can have an easy 10k+ defense with buffs. its quite an easy feat to kill a moron citrine gemmed wizard, but pack one with garnets and a level 11 stone barrier and you have yourself a force to be reckoned with.

    You're talking wizard. Talking from purely duels, they're not so hard, but in PvP lvl 11 stone barrier gives them as nearly as much pdef than self-buffed bms.

    An arcane veno with 10k pdef thoughf? Not without +10 pdef ornaments and stacked garnet gems, fully buffed.... even then that would fall under my "massive cash shopper class" and not be any realistically normal build. Any realistic Arcane or Vit Arcane build veno isn't going to have much more than 4-5k pdef without cash shopping.

    As a heavy, 10x nixes aren't much of an immediate threat after the initial stun. Red sprint or antistun skill/pot will get you close to a veno, and as a bm if you can't lock a arcane veno long enough to kill them you're pretty fail, IMO.

    And about fox form, yeah, they'll have higher pdef, but arcane veno is not gonna kill you in foxform either.
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  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    i had 6 in human without buffs |:. 15k in sage fox fully buffed. myriad + sage soul degen + amp/purge and they dont have to kill you, the pet can :].
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    advice to fledgling archers:
    Going sage is like drunken sex, at first she may look good, but when you wake up the next morning; you'll look at her and go WHAT HAVE I DONE.
  • Taeknight - Lost City
    Taeknight - Lost City Posts: 50 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Michael_Dark ~ I think your talking with bunch of noobs that dont know anything about this game.

    IMO ppl below lvl 95 shouldnt be allowed to post anything, kuz talking with them, is like talking with the wall or something.

    But anyway, some time passed and my list kinda changed:

    Easiest to Harders
    Archer
    Bm
    Cleric
    Psychic ( or how u spell )
    Veno
    Barb
    Sin ( kuz they run away, or go invisible )
    Wizard ( Bleh, high **** Pdef, kiting skills and high **** M.Attack )
  • konariraiden
    konariraiden Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Wow...30 days on the nose...it's considered a necro, now.

    b:sweat
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