better pve build with some pvp

Arthios - Raging Tide

ok tryin to decide on a LA build or Pure with Vit, main focus is soloability with some pvp ability (mainly world pk/duels) but this isnt a main focus

started up 2 venos to compare but looking for feedback as well

on one its the basic LA build 3 mag/1str/1 dex, bonus + pdef/crit rate and the ability to wear + hp helms due to str (str every other lvl does not give u enough for hp helms) my thoughts on this is u lose healing ability but thanks to veno low skill cost u dont really starve for mana

Pure/hybrid build (hybrid of a hybrid build lol) instead of 3/1/1-4/1 ive been doin 4/1-4/1 Even mag-str, Odd mag-Vit) so 1 str/1 vit/8 mag every 2 lvls

thoughts on this, some extra hp for survivability more healing ability for solo tanking, more base dmg...still squishy as all hell b:surrender

What im thinking is with the LA build and HP helms, u could make up for the lack of vit alone with a decent 3* helm >.<, and fox form adores LA (HA even more) but how badly with a nuker smack me lol

Chobsi - Heavens Tear

Arthios - Raging Tide wrote: »

Pure/hybrid build (hybrid of a hybrid build lol) instead of 3/1/1-4/1 ive been doin 4/1-4/1 Even mag-str, Odd mag-Vit) so 1 str/1 vit/8 mag every 2 lvls

thoughts on this, some extra hp for survivability more healing ability for solo tanking, more base dmg...still squishy as all hell b:surrender

What im thinking is with the LA build and HP helms, u could make up for the lack of vit alone with a decent 3* helm >.<, and fox form adores LA (HA even more) but how badly with a nuker smack me lol

The HP helmet doesnt make a huge difference in my opinion. The average 81 helmet has a base of +205 hp (Database says)
My 81 helmet has +5 vit, +some p.def, +80 HP and 2 sockets with 2 Beautiful citrines (32 HP each) With 1 vit for a veno=12hp, Thats 50 HP for the vit+80ho+64hp= 194 and some P.Def.
So thats 9 hp less?. And would be less if you went LA and used HP helmets because you couldnt use one of an equal level. You'd be a bit behind. By level 81 you'd only have 86 strength, maybe more with equips..but You'd be around the 50 strength requir. helmet which is +130 HP.
So that isnt a big issue in my opinion. So I like Vit/Arcane more myself.
I currently have capped vit at 80, its around 92 with equips, and my magic is at 338. I have nice survivability, I can solo well and my damage isnt too low.

Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear

1 vit for a veno = 12 HP not 14

Chobsi - Heavens Tear

Too late for me to think to hard b:beatup

Sadpuma - Heavens Tear

I am an arcane pvp veno. And i always thought about how much extra HP you get off those hp helms.

So a couple of weeks ago without really calculating anything i decide i have enough HP as it is that i can loose some vit and put on an uber HP helm. (Fatal mistake not calculating anything)

Long story short at the time I had the Ence's Scar refined to 6 with 2 +10 vit stones in it (ence's scar is grade 14). I made the Warsoul of Earth helm (grade 13 so not much hp lost), reqrd 117 strgh. I added 2 +10 vit stones and refined it to 6.

Overall, I ended up with about the same hp ( a little less actually) by removing a certain number of points from vit and putting them into strgth. So all in all, unless you already are HA and have a bunch of Strgth as it is, then do it. Otherwise getting a good arcane helm and refining it will be essentially the exact same or better than the HP helms.

FYI i restat those strgth points back into vit and sold the helm. grade 14 was better anyway

Jellytops - Heavens Tear

I wanted to try out LA some time ago, so I restated from pure to LA. I wasn't LA many days before I switched to vit/arcane. Sure you get some more phy. def, but you lose mag. def. You also lose some extra mag, so you won't hit that hard. For me, vit/arcane was the way to go. I have extra hp, making up for the lack of phy def., while I still have all my mag. def. And I wouldn't say I do less dmg than LA. This, of course, depends on how much you put into vit.

I guess it's really up to everyone to figure out what suits them best, but atleast this is what I found out on my char.

Lolite - Heavens Tear

Jellytops - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I wanted to try out LA some time ago, so I restated from pure to LA. I wasn't LA many days before I switched to vit/arcane. Sure you get some more phy. def, but you lose mag. def. You also lose some extra mag, so you won't hit that hard. For me, vit/arcane was the way to go. I have extra hp, making up for the lack of phy def., while I still have all my mag. def. And I wouldn't say I do less dmg than LA. This, of course, depends on how much you put into vit.

I guess it's really up to everyone to figure out what suits them best, but atleast this is what I found out on my char.

I always thought the definition of vit/arcane is to get min. req for armors and weapon, rest points into vit. But it sounds you are a hybrid... Correct me if I am wrong.

Chobsi - Heavens Tear

Lolite - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I always thought the definition of vit/arcane is to get min. req for armors and weapon, rest points into vit. But it sounds you are a hybrid... Correct me if I am wrong.

Vit/Arcane hybrid is up to the player in my opinion, because everyone caps it at some point.
I capped mine at 60 and have 82 vit with equips, and Im thinking about adding more vit.
I did vit=equal to level (2 vit, 1 strength, 7 mag per 2 levels) till 55 then went pure arcane from there.

Jellytops - Heavens Tear

Lolite - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I always thought the definition of vit/arcane is to get min. req for armors and weapon, rest points into vit. But it sounds you are a hybrid... Correct me if I am wrong.

Yeah, sorry. I'm kinda more the hybrid version, kinda mix them up. Hehe. Haven't checked in some days now, but if I remember right, I have close to 90 vit (with gear on).

I have a cap on my str on 54 now, and I won't be needing more in a while (if ever at all). I'm currently going 2 vit and 3 mag every lvl, and will probably continue to do that.