Nirvana dungeon soloed (possibly first?)

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  • Kasumi - Dreamweaver
    Kasumi - Dreamweaver Posts: 346 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    sigh,

    I'm an archer, I hit 4/sec normally and 5/sec spark since I'm demon.

    chezedude hits 5/sec normally since he has rank 8 now.

    BM's can get 5/sec sparked if they're demon. They cap out at 3.33/sec but can get to 5/sec if they're sparked. With cyclone heel they get to 4/sec. Sage BMs doesn't have the luxury of getting that 25% speed boost, thats why you normally don't see them at 5/sec.

    If you check dreamweaver's rankings, you see swordman on there, the 102 BM. He's sage but he can hit 5/sec now without genie skills. He used to hit 3.33/sec and 4 with cyclone but since he has nirvana leggings now with another .05 interval, he hits 4/sec normally, and 5 with cyclone heel.

    So I don't where people getting off saying that BMs can't get 5/sec.
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  • rikako
    rikako Posts: 340 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Rinari - Raging Tide wrote: »
    they can wear same gear, however that does not prove anything about the class-specific interval caps



    again, barb =/= bm



    i dont even know what to say to that... wtf kind of equipment setup is that? would epically fail ingame

    doesnt matter if it fails or not your proven wrong and now go in your cornor and stop flaming o_O (btw stated that i dont know what gear is needed so i just took the obivous interval gear that anyone can equip)
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    ^ Someone is going to ask for an ss.....
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  • ChaoticTears - Harshlands
    ChaoticTears - Harshlands Posts: 323 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Kasumi - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    .

    So I don't where people getting off saying that BMs can't get 5/sec.

    Only one person doesnt get it, But I suppose the phrase " The wheels still turning but the hamster is dead " holds true for them
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  • Rinari - Raging Tide
    Rinari - Raging Tide Posts: 199 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Kasumi - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    sigh,

    I'm an archer, I hit 4/sec normally and 5/sec spark since I'm demon.

    chezedude hits 5/sec normally since he has rank 8 now.

    BM's can get 5/sec sparked if they're demon. They cap out at 3.33/sec but can get to 5/sec if they're sparked. With cyclone heel they get to 4/sec. Sage BMs doesn't have the luxury of getting that 25% speed boost, thats why you normally don't see them at 5/sec.

    If they you check dreamweaver's rankings, you see swordman on there, the 102 BM. He's sage but he can hit 5/sec now without genie skills. He used to hit 3.33/sec and 4 with cyclone but since he has nirvana leggings now with another .05 interval, he hits 4/sec normally, and 5 with cyclone heel.

    So I don't where people getting off saying that BMs can't get 5/sec.

    reason i say that is because pw-my has a BM interval cap of 3.33atk/sec, regardless of how much -int you stack with your equipment, your cylcone heel, and demonspark...

    the counter-debate here is that PWI has patched it, allowing BMs to hit 5.00atk/sec

    personally, if that is indeed true, it will cause quit a huge imbalance, because a BM with full +12 gear, charmed, and having 5.00atk/sec would not only be unkillable 1vs1, but thx to the increased interval, would be able to easily kill any other class in 1vs1 (even if opponent is +12'd and charmed too)
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  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/1197/50lolol.png dude shut up. a wizard could one shot even the godliest BM anyways, not like it even matters. OMG BM IS OP QQ, its not imbalanced if it takes thousands of dollars to even come close to what youre describing as OP.

    5 has ALWAYS been the attack speed limit, its just hasnt been normally achievable until these anniversary things came out. argument over, quit getting off topic, /thread, game over.
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  • Rinari - Raging Tide
    Rinari - Raging Tide Posts: 199 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/1197/50lolol.png dude shut up. a wizard could one shot even the godliest BM anyways, not like it even matters. OMG BM IS OP QQ, its not imbalanced if it takes thousands of dollars to even come close to what youre describing as OP.

    5 has ALWAYS been the attack speed limit, its just hasnt been normally achievable until these anniversary things came out. argument over, quit getting off topic, /thread, game over.

    screenie posted, i concede my info as wrong... for PWI

    and no, a wizard cannot 1shot a BM when both are +12'd. dunno where you got that idea in your head
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Rinari - Raging Tide wrote: »
    and no, a wizard cannot 1shot a BM when both are +12'd. dunno where you got that idea in your head

    And here we go again b:surrender
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  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    ...yes they can lol....
    im sorry i have to do this again...

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    advice to fledgling archers:
    Going sage is like drunken sex, at first she may look good, but when you wake up the next morning; you'll look at her and go WHAT HAVE I DONE.
  • Rinari - Raging Tide
    Rinari - Raging Tide Posts: 199 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »
    And here we go again b:surrender

    wizzie do like 18k damage with one hit? i think not
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    ...yes they can lol....
    im sorry i have to do this again...

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    point out the BM for me b:question
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  • rikako
    rikako Posts: 340 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »
    And here we go again b:surrender

    LOL made my day.
  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Rinari - Raging Tide wrote: »
    wizzie do like 18k damage with one hit? i think not



    point out the BM for me b:question
    dude, a barbarian can wear the same gear as a bm, and full +12 + vit stones can yield 40k+ hp on one. if hes hitting 116000 damage on a barb, how will a bm survive that, who has ~half a barbs hp with same gear.
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    advice to fledgling archers:
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  • Rinari - Raging Tide
    Rinari - Raging Tide Posts: 199 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    dude, a barbarian can wear the same gear as a bm, and full +12 + vit stones can yield 40k+ hp on one. if hes hitting 116000 damage on a barb, how will a bm survive that, who has ~half a barbs hp with same gear.

    because BM can obtain ~70-80% mag reduction with marrow, and have ~50-60% base reduction
    (cant remember exactly what my BM had with its full gear)

    whereas barbs usually have full HA with phys rings, and maybe arcane ornaments...
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  • Ligeia - Harshlands
    Ligeia - Harshlands Posts: 1,144 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Why do you have enough strength to wear HH99 fists?
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  • Rinari - Raging Tide
    Rinari - Raging Tide Posts: 199 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Ligeia - Harshlands wrote: »
    Why do you have enough strength to wear HH99 fists?

    he said they were tt100... probably has them for the -int on 'em

    personally, Deicide is better :P

    almost forgot to put why... lolol

    archer + fists = epic **** at melee

    great when fighting mages... blink becomes nearly useless
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  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Rinari - Raging Tide wrote: »
    because BM can obtain ~70-80% mag reduction with marrow, and have ~50-60% base reduction
    (cant remember exactly what my BM had with its full gear)

    whereas barbs usually have full HA with phys rings, and maybe arcane ornaments...
    undine + ep + 3x sage spark black ice dragon. crit, dead BM. just stop posting, please |:. there are situations where its fairly easy to pull off, such as TW where a bm is less likely to get off balance or absolute domain
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    advice to fledgling archers:
    Going sage is like drunken sex, at first she may look good, but when you wake up the next morning; you'll look at her and go WHAT HAVE I DONE.
  • Rinari - Raging Tide
    Rinari - Raging Tide Posts: 199 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    undine + ep + 3x sage spark black ice dragon. crit, dead BM. just stop posting, please |:

    undine -> bm ports -> stun -> dead mage

    at least, that's what a non-fail bm does in 1vs1

    (open pk not included, as my original statement was in regards to 1vs1)
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  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Rinari - Raging Tide wrote: »
    undine -> bm ports -> stun -> dead mage

    at least, that's what a non-fail bm does in 1vs1

    (open pk not included, as my original statement was in regards to 1vs1)
    unless the BM is loaded with thousands of cash shop gear, winning is always in the wizards favor if theyre decently geared. they can have BM like pdef in robes :). stun = dont kill, axes = dont kill.
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    advice to fledgling archers:
    Going sage is like drunken sex, at first she may look good, but when you wake up the next morning; you'll look at her and go WHAT HAVE I DONE.
  • Ligeia - Harshlands
    Ligeia - Harshlands Posts: 1,144 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Rinari - Raging Tide wrote: »
    archer + fists = epic **** at melee

    great when fighting mages... blink becomes nearly useless
    ... Except for the part where the archer can't actually do anything to prevent the Mage from getting away with fists equipped. Even if you use Stunning Blast, the Mage can still Blink and seal you. I can see how they'd be decent in PvE for mobs and bosses which insist on melee range, but why would you drop 35-36 Dex for that?
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  • Rinari - Raging Tide
    Rinari - Raging Tide Posts: 199 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    unless the BM is loaded with thousands of cash shop gear, winning is always in the wizards favor if theyre decently geared. they can have BM like pdef in robes :). stun = dont kill, axes = dont kill.

    original statement was assumed fully geared peoples. dont try to derail
    Ligeia - Harshlands wrote: »
    ... Except for the part where the archer can't actually do anything to prevent the Mage from getting away with fists equipped. Even if you use Stunning Blast, the Mage can still Blink and seal you. I can see how they'd be decent in PvE for mobs and bosses which insist on melee range, but why would you drop 35-36 Dex for that?

    because you arent seeing the big picture...

    mage stays at range -> archer kills with basic X.XXatk/sec, doesnt even need to spark
    (EDIT: erm.. i think the speed here is wrong)

    mage blinks to get within the 5meter minimum radius -> archer goes with fists and still 3.33atk/sec

    there's nowhere for mage to be at, where it isnt taking extreme phys damage
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  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    lack of mastery, lack of skills, huge pdef on wizard... read archer forum, even our best archers need 3x spark to kill godly wizards. wizard just needs to 1-2 shot sad little archer.
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    advice to fledgling archers:
    Going sage is like drunken sex, at first she may look good, but when you wake up the next morning; you'll look at her and go WHAT HAVE I DONE.
  • Rinari - Raging Tide
    Rinari - Raging Tide Posts: 199 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    blink = mage teleport skill
    blasting point = mage seal skill

    stunning blast = stun shot

    archer also has that paralyze skill that also causes stunning with demon
    archer has a skill that can seal

    demon mage has several stuns (all %-based)
    sage mage has... higher damage per hit and some cool addons >_>
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  • Kasumi - Dreamweaver
    Kasumi - Dreamweaver Posts: 346 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    stunning blast is a genie skill for archers only that immobilizes for 7secs, it's good for every class except wizard since they can still use distant shrink.
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  • Rinari - Raging Tide
    Rinari - Raging Tide Posts: 199 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Kasumi - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    stunning blast is a genie skill for archers only that immobilizes for 7secs, it's good for every class except wizard since they can still use distant shrink.

    since when can wizzies blink while paralyzed =_= fail PWI
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  • Kasumi - Dreamweaver
    Kasumi - Dreamweaver Posts: 346 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Rinari - Raging Tide wrote: »
    since when can wizzies blink while paralyzed =_= fail PWI

    it's not really paralyzed since you can still attack if we use it, maybe it's like a seal or freeze? i don't know.
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  • Rinari - Raging Tide
    Rinari - Raging Tide Posts: 199 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Kasumi - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    it's not really paralyzed since you can still attack if we use it, maybe it's like a seal or freeze? i don't know.

    stun = no action whatsoever

    seal = move, but no attack/skill/pots/apoths/etc

    paralyze = no move, but attack/skill/pots/apoths/etc ok

    used to be that wizzies cant blink while paralyzed... same with BM ports
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Rinari - Raging Tide wrote: »
    wizzie do like 18k damage with one hit? i think not

    I just had to show you....

    61kMageDamage.jpg
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  • ChaoticTears - Harshlands
    ChaoticTears - Harshlands Posts: 323 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »
    I just had to show you....

    61kMageDamage.jpg

    Screenie or it didnt happen b:chuckle
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    ChaoticTears - Harshlands wrote: »
    Screenie or it didnt happen b:chuckle

    b:chuckle

    I had to do it b:surrenderb:cute
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  • Rinari - Raging Tide
    Rinari - Raging Tide Posts: 199 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »
    I just had to show you....

    61kMageDamage.jpg

    why do you all keep diverging from the topic? we're talkin BMs, not barbs

    BMs dont have fail mdef like barbs (no offence to the arcane barbs among us)
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