Vs'd an ASSASIN

dannyman1001

Alrite so im a pure DEX build lvl 72 archer.
Now im usually really good in duels and win alot ( not bragging )
But today i faced a lvl 63 assasin, and got pwned.
Now the tactic of the assasin was to dissappear, re-appear then **** my hp, by stunning, sleeping, paralyze est. and of course i lost....

Now 2nd duel i tried to run as much as I could jumping up and down, but he was invisable for almost 5 min(later he told me, he could go invis up to 10 min) randomly he tele'd to me and stunned me... and boom he hit hard **** phys and pwned me again.

Now anyone got any ideas on what to do when you face off against an Assasin when your an archer in a duel ?

System

Holy path away, stun, lightning strike, quickshot.

If he goes invisible get a spark/Wings of grace ready. When he attacks you cast it right away then use lightning on him.

Quilue - Sanctuary

if he just goes invis and refuses to come out, like last 10 **** minutes in a duel playing a waiting game (wtf?) just Wings of Grace, get on a mount, and go for the next wq location. **** him and his cheap duel.

Nelae - Heavens Tear

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

if he just goes invis and refuses to come out, like last 10 **** minutes in a duel playing a waiting game (wtf?) just Wings of Grace, get on a mount, and go for the next wq location. **** him and his cheap duel.

Nice ^^ b:dirty

System

Yeah if they go invisible thats a pansy move, assassins can kill us in duels for one reason and one reason only: Invisibility.

Good thing duel = not real PvP, in TW and Pking we would destroy them

Lusca - Sanctuary

DarkHam - Harshlands wrote: »

Yeah if they go invisible thats a pansy move, assassins can kill us in duels for one reason and one reason only: Invisibility.

Good thing duel = not real PvP, in TW and Pking we would destroy them

lol
so in a duel sins kill you because they can use stealth
but in real pvp they can't kill you? stealth still works in real pk lol

as for stealth being a pansy move, oh Q.Q we could say kiting is a pansy move too but we don't because archers need to kite and sins need there stealth, else they wouldn't be very good sins now would they lol

Hellsarcher - Harshlands

a sins invisability skill should get nerfed in pvp it makes vs archer just bs and when they come out of staelth they get dmg buff lol? i do not think they need that. I spent 10 mins or more doing a 1 on 1 with a sin and i can say it was charm waste-_-. then i started using mobs for aoe attack so if the sin was close to me he/she would get hit..that worked once but meh not enough dmg seeing as they would just re enter stealth. might as well make knockback be pvp effective for archers. Also a sin has massive melee dmg reducion were i am hittings 1s..or sometin. All I am saying is that the game's producers should take a 2nd look at the classes and see if they are "fair" I do not wanna think about what will happen if a sin gets equiped with lunar crud and armors...

TurismoX - Lost City

Since when do we get a damage buff when we come out of stealth? ._.

AngelicArrow - Harshlands

lol perhaps the sin spark erupted before leaving invis, so it appeared that he got a damage boost

Quilue - Sanctuary

you get a spark when you shadow escape, which kind of means they'll always re-enter w/ an attack buff if they want lol.

Lusca - Sanctuary

Hellsarcher - Harshlands wrote: »

a sins invisability skill should get nerfed in pvp it makes vs archer just bs and when they come out of staelth they get dmg buff lol? i do not think they need that. I spent 10 mins or more doing a 1 on 1 with a sin and i can say it was charm waste-_-. then i started using mobs for aoe attack so if the sin was close to me he/she would get hit..that worked once but meh not enough dmg seeing as they would just re enter stealth. might as well make knockback be pvp effective for archers. Also a sin has massive melee dmg reducion were i am hittings 1s..or sometin. All I am saying is that the game's producers should take a 2nd look at the classes and see if they are "fair" I do not wanna think about what will happen if a sin gets equiped with lunar crud and armors...

maybe you should actually take a look at a sins skills so you don't make yourself look like an idiot

stealth does not give us a damage increase
focus mind is a self buff that gives us a 25% chance to avoid damage, so your attacks have a 25% chance of doing 1 damage, but it only lasts 60 seconds with a 90 second cool down

one of our stealth skills has a 6 second cool down but can ONLY be used out of combat

our stealth that we can use in combat has a 90 second cool down so sins can't "just go back into stealth" after you knock them out of it

Hellsarcher - Harshlands

not immidaitly lol..

Shandelzare - Sanctuary

dannyman1001 wrote: »

Now im usually really good in duels and win alot

Fail thread try again.

Ussichu - Sanctuary

Pray the sin misses you and you don't miss him. That's about all i can say.

Sanctam - Dreamweaver

Lol, that or just don't duel any sins.

Sneakret - Heavens Tear

Personally, I don't like using stealth in duels. In my list it's akin to hitting a pot or any kind of healing measure outside of generals skills. Bloodpaint, suture, soul transfuse, etc.. The exception is against fac members(for prodding) and in pk.

However it is a chi gaining skill as 1/4 and you should still expect to see it used. The most common thing you should expect to happen asap is a stun out from stealth provided you haven't seen the giant red X mark from headhunt come up within the last 30 sec.

When in a duel or even pk mode, after stealth is forced, your cha will continue to turn to face the said cha regardless of them essentially not existing. Plan it out.

If you haven't run yet and your cha is still trailing the invisi-sin and you turn all the way around, they intended to attack you from behind and are frustrated at your cha following them lol. Once you've stopped moving, they're coming at you with an attack.

Should you survive the next string, you now have 90 sec to turn it in your favor.

Lusca - Sanctuary

Sneakret - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Personally, I don't like using stealth in duels. In my list it's akin to hitting a pot or any kind of healing measure outside of generals skills. Bloodpaint, suture, soul transfuse, etc.. The exception is against fac members(for prodding) and in pk.

lol what, next are you going to play a wizard but your not going to use your 59 skills?

Sneakret - Heavens Tear

Rofl you goof, I just said personally. We have a variety of skills and I'd rather push my luck. It's preference for duel only on my end, I never said by no means use it.

Read fully before you post or go back to flaming that "certain un-nameable sin guy that had massive threads made to QQ over him"

Lusca - Sanctuary

Sneakret - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Rofl you goof, I just said personally. We have a variety of skills and I'd rather push my luck. It's preference for duel only on my end, I never said by no means use it.

Read fully before you post or go back to flaming that "certain un-nameable sin guy that had massive threads made to QQ over him"

i did read fully, i only commented on the part i wanted to comment on
weather it's a personal choice or not it still seems stupid to purposely gimp yourself

and no one really cares about morty anymore lol

Sneakret - Heavens Tear

b:chuckle shhhhhh he's like the voldemort of sins but w/o the pwr to self rez

Lusca - Sanctuary

Sneakret - Heavens Tear wrote: »

b:chuckle shhhhhh he's like the voldemort of sins but w/o the pwr to self rez

lmfao oh wow

Shadowvzs - Lost City

Lusca - Sanctuary wrote: »

lol
so in a duel sins kill you because they can use stealth
but in real pvp they can't kill you? stealth still works in real pk lol

as for stealth being a pansy move, oh Q.Q we could say kiting is a pansy move too but we don't because archers need to kite and sins need there stealth, else they wouldn't be very good sins now would they lol

but charm work too :P

Lusca - Sanctuary

Shadowvzs - Lost City wrote: »

but charm work too :P

no one mentioned charms lol

he said the only reason sins win in duel is because of stealth he didn't say he lost because of his lack of charm

Shadowvzs - Lost City

Lusca - Sanctuary wrote: »

no one mentioned charms lol

he said the only reason sins win in duel is because of stealth he didn't say he lost because of his lack of charm

yea stealth work too everywhere but in real pk harder the backstab somebody with hiero than somebody in duel :P

(maybe for him the non stealth mode more challange than wasteing minutes only for save ur **** and get back ur chi in invisible mode XD)

FitHitDShan - Sanctuary

I was not expecting to see assassins going back into stealth during a fight. Maybe this is a duel-only thing, but if it is how they really would fight, does it lead us to reconsider DOTs? The argument against DOTs is (a) they don't do much damage and (b) you can do more damage with other attacks in the same time. Thinking about what to do with the couple seconds between seeing the assassin start to disappear and the big wait, (b) seems to become irrelevant.

Quilue - Sanctuary

ehhh...they gain spark so fast it'd suck if they say...triple spark purifies your stacks or something.

in PvP where there's a charm i still think it's absolutely useless. there were some archers in TW last weekend that used DoTs against me...and it amused the hell out of me.

Stayne - Harshlands

Lusca - Sanctuary wrote: »

focus mind is a self buff that gives us a 25% chance to avoid damage, so your attacks have a 25% chance of doing 1 damage, but it only lasts 60 seconds with a 90 second cool down

one of our stealth skills has a 6 second cool down but can ONLY be used out of combat

our stealth that we can use in combat has a 90 second cool down so sins can't "just go back into stealth" after you knock them out of it

I am not very familiar with sin abilities but from what you're saying here you can...

Out of combat stealth...pop focus mind (60 seconds)...spark (for more dmg)...do your sleep/stun combo (<60 seconds)...if you haven't killed hiim...pop your in combat stealth (90 second cooldown)...WAIT 90 SECONDS..oh hey all your cooldowns are reset..do it again.

(Someone told me you can stay stealthed for about 10 min. so yes you can wait till you get sparks and cooldowns are reset)

Sneakret - Heavens Tear

Interesting, I was unaware of an actual forced timer and under the belief that it was similar to your aoe in that it doesn't end till your mp is gone. But yes the 90 second wait is very easy to do.

Yes dot's are a good thing to look into against this class as our stealth does not purify the negative status, though it states so in the description. Having not been on the receiving end of a fellow sin that I could not see yet though, I'm unsure as to whether or not your dot will make a visible appearance over the characters head. The only info I have as to anims that can be seen are pot usages for hp and mp which leave trails of sparkles

Illyana - Dreamweaver

I fought my first sin this weekend in TW. Althought they were likely 20 levels under me, I was not impressed.

Blessing of the Condor > Winged Pledge = Dead

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973

Can anyone verify if damage dealt from a DoT would force a sin out stealth if they use their in-combat stealth?

Sneakret - Heavens Tear

No, a DoT effect will not remove stealth, it will continue to tick away though