Autopathing

Downloadzfox - Heavens Tear

To be fare IT FAILS!

If anyone has played Kung Foo (Closed Beta) they willknow auto pathing takes them round objects.Here it just gos in a straight line.


I think they should improve this as i1 of the quests goes quite a way round the map but it fallsof cliffs and gets stuck at trees and rocks

Quistion. What do you think?

Lenn_ - Sanctuary

jade dynasty's autopathes around obstacles too . they should indeed upgrade ours to other games standards. JD and ether saga both had tab targetting before we did, it feels like we get the stinky left overs and sloppy seconds, even though this is a flagship game >>;

Psytrac - Dreamweaver

I personally don't mind it so much, it makes you think more about where you're going, you can't just bot it with the game itself.

(play JD, you can just sit back and WATCH the game play)

IDaun - Dreamweaver

Well, in 8 levels you can fly (or sooner if you cash shop) and that makes autopathing a lot better. Tele fees are pretty low at those levels, too (compared to the 3k-8k fees just to go from small town to small town in upper levels).

So yeah, the autopathing feature could be made better, but, considering how early you start flying, and how soon you can make it to 3x... it's not that big of an issue.

Chillum - Dreamweaver

Downloadzfox - Heavens Tear wrote: »

To be fare IT FAILS!

If anyone has played Kung Foo (Closed Beta) they willknow auto pathing takes them round objects.Here it just gos in a straight line.


I think they should improve this as i1 of the quests goes quite a way round the map but it fallsof cliffs and gets stuck at trees and rocks

Quistion. What do you think?

If you travel using an aerogear, going in a straight line works which is what I do. Yes, you can still run into objects and some mobs but if you fly high enough, you tend to avoid all that.

Travelling on the ground in PWI you run the risk of getting attacked, hitting objects etc.

If this is your first character in PWI just so you know, you'll get a quest for an aerogear at L30. Once you get that, autopathing will work as outlined above.

Regards.

_DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary

In other words, no players don't want improvements to the game because they can struggle through 30 levels before finally getting an aerogear.

I wonder if JD has any threads complaining about autopath? "Take it out plz and make it jus go straight and bump into things! I feels like I'm botting and not involved and I can just fly eventually so I dun needz it"

Some people just love disagreeing with others O_o

Downloadzfox - Heavens Tear

I have a nien beast and a few mill left i did have urhims light but sold it for nien beast

in answer to chillum i dont want another sword its slow mounts look better and are faster. i do think we get seconds we need better autopathing for longjourneys

Downloadzfox - Heavens Tear

Its just one of those things that WOULD make the game better

Lenn_ - Sanctuary

getting an aerogear/doing jumping quests in JD happen to be a PITA .

Sirrobert - Dreamweaver

For long travels, just jump on your aerogear, fly to max alti and wait till you're there.

Or run on your mount, and pay attention to mobs knocking you off and killing you/obstacles

Downloadzfox - Heavens Tear

Why can tthey just upgrade autopath though to go around obsticles as i want to use my mountnot aerogear

Saitada - Sanctuary

For any amount of travel, Aerogear is faster and safer. Your not knocked off your mount by mobs. Your not knocked off your mount by entering the water. Your not slowed by having to climb or attempt to climb high angled mountains or hills. You don't have to go out of your way to get around mountains and 'cliffs'.

I've timed a run from Etherblade to Dreamweaver on my mount autopathing -vs- flying my Swiftshadow on autopath.

I controlled my mount enough to go around obstacles where needed but otherwise allowed auto-pathing to direct my course.

I flew to Dreamweaver faster than my mount could run it. I don't remember the time I saved or how long it took, but I proved to myself by doing so that flying a +3 m/s (total of +8 m/s) aero-mount was faster than riding a +11 m/s land-mount over any distance.

~Saitada

Sirrobert - Dreamweaver

Saitada - Sanctuary wrote: »

For any amount of travel, Aerogear is faster and safer. Your not knocked off your mount by mobs. Your not knocked off your mount by entering the water. Your not slowed by having to climb or attempt to climb high angled mountains or hills. You don't have to go out of your way to get around mountains and 'cliffs'.

I've timed a run from Etherblade to Dreamweaver on my mount autopathing -vs- flying my Swiftshadow on autopath.

I controlled my mount enough to go around obstacles where needed but otherwise allowed auto-pathing to direct my course.

I flew to Dreamweaver faster than my mount could run it. I don't remember the time I saved or how long it took, but I proved to myself by doing so that flying a +3 m/s (total of +8 m/s) aero-mount was faster than riding a +11 m/s land-mount over any distance.

~Saitada

I doubt that also works for +.5flying mounts b:surrender

Saitada - Sanctuary

Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I doubt that also works for +.5flying mounts b:surrender

hmm probably not. But if they have enough coin to buy a +11 m/s mount, they had enough to get a +3 Aerogear instead. Of course personal preference always comes into play and I can understand those preferring to run with land mounts rather than fly, even if the time saved can be fairly decent. My TB often runs around on his Grand Lobster rather than flying with his +3.2/6.2 wings. I just like the way he looks on the Lobster better than how he looks flying.

BUT if I have any distance to go, or I need to cross through an area where the mobs can 1 hit me or kill me with ease, he'll fly or teleport.

~Saitada

*edited due to typo

The_Forgoten - Lost City

Downloadzfox - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Its just one of those things that WOULD make the game better

But, it won't make PWE money. Hence why it won't be implemented.



I'm not flaming you, if it seems so. b:surrender

Sirrobert - Dreamweaver

Saitada - Sanctuary wrote: »

hmm probably not. But if they have enough coin to buy a +11 m/s mount, they had enough to get a +3 Aerogear instead. Of course personal preference always comes into play and I can understand those preferring to run with land mounts rather than fly, even if the time saved can be fairly decent. My TB often runs around on his Grand Lobster rather than flying with his +3.2/6.2 wings. I just like the way he looks on the Lobster better than how he looks flying.

BUY if I have any distance to go, or I need to cross through an area where the mobs can 1 hit me or kill me with ease, he'll fly or teleport.

~Saitada

Actually, a friend of mine gave me his mount (well, lended until he would come back).

But yea, the fact that I can write something on the forum, or get a drink while going to the other side of the map counts for something to b:thanks

Saitada - Sanctuary

Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Actually, a friend of mine gave me his mount (well, lended until he would come back).

But yea, the fact that I can write something on the forum, or get a drink while going to the other side of the map counts for something to b:thanks

Yup yup.

~Saitada

Murloc/ - Heavens Tear60

A better auto-pathing feature would be nice, but really isn't needed. I only really use it when going AFK doing WQ, or flying from some pesky location half way across the map.

Other then that, I hop on my battlecat and ride manuially.

*FYI - Flying at 70 alti, I've never run into any mobs, never run into any objects. it's 100% safe.*

WShadow - Harshlands

Downloadzfox - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Its just one of those things that WOULD make the game better

Btw: how do you think autopathing can solve if you walk into uprising with no way up? b:chuckle

Or if your travel will go close to World Boss who ONE shoot you. b:chuckle

Or if you run throught huge amount of mobs which all atack and kill you. b:chuckle

You think Autopathing could be soo good that calculate fastest and safer way to your target? b:chuckle

In this game are soo many place where you just cant run on your own, or mobs when will not let you pass. You NEED fly here.

Ground Mounts are faster, but they cant run into water, they cant go up on some mountains. And you can be shooted down from them. You just CANT us them on "Autopilot".

XanZerstorer - Dreamweaver

Used to play other games with better autopathing - it's nice on short distances, mostly to travel to NPCs in the area. PW's just annoying until you have a flyer. Only my BM as a spurred land mount; I use it mostly in cities or when I wanna do stuff like Archo => OT/SP, DWP => Dreaming Cloud. I used my veno's to get to pet spots fast. Otherwise, I'm often on my flyer (Zuriel's, non-upgraded).

Annalyse - Heavens Tear

Murloc/ - Heavens Tear wrote: »

*FYI - Flying at 70 alti, I've never run into any mobs, never run into any objects. it's 100% safe.*

I was flying around 70 and hit Jewelscalen once. Now I fly at 78 in that area, 60 everywhere else.

I agree it would be handy to avoid obstacles while autopathing, but you have to watch when autopathing on a mount anyway. If you don't watch you can get knocked off the mount by a mob and get killed, especially if you are riding through an area with high level mobs. And obviously your mount can't cross water so you have to pay attention to that too.

That being said, even though I do watch when autopathing on ground I do still get annoyed when I have to go around something and then set autopath again. But really, I am just happy that we have something like autopathing. It was far more annoying playing without it.

Downloadzfox - Heavens Tear

Agreed but the other few games PWI have released DO have better auto pathing

Maiya - Lost City

Better autopathing would be nice but it would be too lazy too. When I was playing Ether Saga I autopathed to everything and I got so lost cause I didn't pay attention to where I was going.

Downloadzfox - Heavens Tear

I just broiught zuriels blade and polar bear thx guys

Chillum - Dreamweaver

Downloadzfox - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I have a nien beast and a few mill left i did have urhims light but sold it for nien beast

in answer to chillum i dont want another sword its slow mounts look better and are faster. i do think we get seconds we need better autopathing for longjourneys

I would declare that I only have a flying mount. No ground mount. Perhaps if I did, I would feel a bit more strongly about the autopathing feature. Conversely because I know how the autopathing feature currently works and how I like to play i.e. set autopath and do something else in the meantime (going on ground runs the risk of aggresive mobs), flying works for me.

I'm not remotely arguing that autopathing in PWI is perfect, it isn't judging from some responses from your good self and _DarkSeph_. Your points seem valid enough. I'm just saying that from my point of view (and from the way I play in using autopath), once you have a flying mount, it becomes less of a hindrance.

Annalyse - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I was flying around 70 and hit Jewelscalen once. Now I fly at 78 in that area, 60 everywhere else.

I agree it would be handy to avoid obstacles while autopathing, but you have to watch when autopathing on a mount anyway. If you don't watch you can get knocked off the mount by a mob and get killed, especially if you are riding through an area with high level mobs. And obviously your mount can't cross water so you have to pay attention to that too.

That being said, even though I do watch when autopathing on ground I do still get annoyed when I have to go around something and then set autopath again. But really, I am just happy that we have something like autopathing. It was far more annoying playing without it.

This is a factor still. In most places I can simply set me aerogear to max height and leave it to go and it will be perfectly safe. However, there are one or two places that you still need to be careful as with the example from Annalyse.

I remember when I was still in my L40-50s setting my aerogear to max height and leaving it around Angler's Village only to come back to it seeing my dead corpse in mid air around a pack of flying mobs around that area. What can I say? You learn from your mistakes.....

Downloadzfox - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I just broiught zuriels blade and polar bear thx guys

Hope that works out for you.

I have an Urim's Light. It's not the best looking flying mount, i'l love a Flame Drill (I like the looks of it better & it's faster), but it does it's job admirably and it's my best value item i've bought by far.

Maybe in the future i'll join you in getting a ground mount.

Regards.

eatwithspoons

Thanks, we've suggested this, but calling it fail outright is not constructive at all b:chuckle