Best For PSY?

CyanideX - Lost City
CyanideX - Lost City Posts: 77 Arc User
edited January 2010 in Psychic
Ok i got 2 questions, im a LV 47 PSY and ive already put a few points in a fair few skills and just wondering what you think is best?

This is what i thought would be best.

Max first 2 spells you get (for PVE and quick cast)
Max both VODOs
Max Glacial Shards
Max bubble heal

Thats what i planned on doing, then probs maxing 2 of the 59 DD skills.

But i seem to run out of skill pionts soo dam quickly >.< just windering if there is something i can do about that?

Also, about stoning your gears

Is it best to put PHYS RES stones on your armor or HP?

thanks fellas :)
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  • Risingson - Lost City
    Risingson - Lost City Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Bubble of Life is really NOT worth leveling. You're not a healer and although it may be useful in certain situations, the range of it is too short to be truely effective in a party, for example.

    I'm also a level 47 Psychic and I just got Spirit Blast and Aqua Impact at level 10, but I'm only skilling Black Voodoo, haven't maxed White Voodoo at all. I also only put one point in Bubble of Life, both the DoTs and Aqua Cannon.

    What I do plan on maxing now : both Diminished/Fortified Vigor, both Glacial Shards and Sandburst Blast and pretty much every spell we learn past level 49, cause they are all pretty nasty.

    I'm also struggling a bit for spirits, right now I can't learn Fortified Vigor for example, I just got the two first skills on lvl 10, I have Black Voodoo something like level 7, Landslide level 4 (a must have I think, eventhough past a certain level it's not worth leveling anymore, I think 3 or 4 is perfect because it's REALLY useful at a certain moment of the game, and still sometimes is for me and it deals a very reasonable amount of damage). I only have one level on Diminished Vigor, one level on Sandburst Blast and two levels on Glacial Shards.

    I believe that with Spirit Blast and Aqua Impact at level 10, I will have a little more spirits but I'm not really sure. I'm doing a LOT of quests so I can get as much as possible anyways.
    Risingson - 7x Psychic
    Indalecio - 3x Cleric
  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    max both VODO's

    NOOOOOO
    Never lvl white vodoo. Halving your dmg is more than enough, at lvl 10 it lowers your attack lvl by 99. That means you only do 1% of your normal dmg, making you completly useless as both DD and tank (tank needs to keep aggro, without aggro skils you need dmg for that).

    Don't max your healing skil, if it heals for more than you have hp it's a complete waste of that mp
    9 out of 10 voices in my head say I'm not crazy... the 10th is singing the music of tetris
  • Shadowvzs - Lost City
    Shadowvzs - Lost City Posts: 877 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    NOOOOOO
    Never lvl white vodoo. Halving your dmg is more than enough, at lvl 10 it lowers your attack lvl by 99. That means you only do 1% of your normal dmg, making you completly useless as both DD and tank (tank needs to keep aggro, without aggro skils you need dmg for that).

    Don't max your healing skil, if it heals for more than you have hp it's a complete waste of that mp
    this is new to me, white vodoo not do only 64att lv penalty and +99 def lv?

    or i dont reaed the skill or u (if 1st true then excuse me)
  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    this is new to me, white vodoo not do only 64att lv penalty and +99 def lv?

    or i dont reaed the skill or u (if 1st true then excuse me)

    Nope, 66 def lvl and -99attack lvl at lvl 10 (on ecatomb.net)
    Don't ever max it
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  • wnight
    wnight Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    1. Maxing out 1st 2 attack spells --> must
    2. Vodoo Only BLack
    3. DoT's At Early stages aka till you max out 1st 2 attacks --> never do that
    4.Bubble --> Leave at lvl 1. Why? a.it's self target only, aoe of healing DOESN'T become wider b. It works on party members only(wigth of 5M which is horrible) so even if somebody will stand near he gets "zip". c.Cooldown time very low which makes this spell almost uselless in combat. d. even at lvl 1 since it magic+weapon based it "grows" in power.
    5. Aqua Cannon except cool looks pretty much rubbish.
    6. Diminish Vigor --> not worth bothering unless heavy PvP even then i prefer to use extra attack an waste "enemy" rather than casting questionable spell.
    Don't have much spirit for now so can't make comment on Shards since haven't tested them yet.

    Me hopes that Channel buff would be worth of my expectations.b:bye
  • Risingson - Lost City
    Risingson - Lost City Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Diminished Vigor is a VERY POWERFUL debuff, if you want to PvP (I do), don't leave it unmaxed.
    Risingson - 7x Psychic
    Indalecio - 3x Cleric
  • Maiya - Lost City
    Maiya - Lost City Posts: 2,686 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Aqua Impact, Spirit Blast, Landslide, Black Voodoo are the skiils I have been focusing on just for PvE. Bubble of Life isn't really needed at a high level early on because your HP is probably low and the heal is way more than you need. If you're planning on PvPing at an early level Diminished Vigor and Soulburn will be good.
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  • Szol - Harshlands
    Szol - Harshlands Posts: 242 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    maxed the nukes
    and the voodoos - white voodoo -99atk lvl equals -50% dmg dunno why

    trying to max the 59 and bubble now - as i can be backup healer in tt runs with bubble


    my opinion
  • Anymuh - Heavens Tear
    Anymuh - Heavens Tear Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    maxed the nukes
    and the voodoos - white voodoo -99atk lvl equals -50% dmg dunno why

    trying to max the 59 and bubble now - as i can be backup healer in tt runs with bubble


    my opinion

    Looks like there's a server cap that goes between -55 | 55 attack/defense level, regardless of level displayed... Think it like the "crit arrow" effect; if it shoots beyond those numbers, it is not "working"...
  • PurpleBomber - Dreamweaver
    PurpleBomber - Dreamweaver Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    is like no one realizes landslide is nuke. Power output alone does far beyond spirit blast and aqua blast. PLUS interrupts channeling and YES i have tested it in pvp it really works. It really does interrupt channeling,in pvp i have realize that landslide is very good for targets very close to you or stopping stuns or even nuke. I have mastered the use of landslide in which i can predict when you will try and stun me or or for barbs who will try and run up to and use the most powerful skill <
    landslide counters so many skills in this game.

    Landslide my view points on this skill

    Great Damage Output

    Interrupts Channeling

    (PVE)Pushes the target back some x meters (more meters depending on skill level)
    My skills so far

    Aqua blast MAXED

    Spirit blast MAXED

    Landslide lvl 8

    Aoe skills im not sure exactly how there are used so i will wait a little before i go that department(in laymans term i will not max it until i can use it better without dieing)-if anybody has any suggestions on how to use them properly my ears are yours

    White Voodoo is lvl 6 and it will stay there{dont say anything cause when it was already reached six i saw wat it does at lvl 10 by reading the forum}

    Black voodoo is lvl 9 and i will max as soon as i get some more spirit

    Dots im considering if i have spirit left over i might level them but i doubt it.

    Also i dont remember name of the skill that increases the earth damage but its now lvl 5 increasing my earth damage by 10% and also the water version of it is only lvl 3 am more going earth cause i see a difference in my earth damage spells

    Also am lvl55 pure psy and im doing up to 4.5k worth of damage with black voodoo, my aqua spirit hit 3.7k spirit blast 3.9k and landslide alone hits 4.7k and its crit is 9k. Picture me on BH's not a pretty site when i aggro even the boss. Well its good i have good supporting clerics so i dont worry about that part of tanking trioc, calcid . NO IM NOT A TANKING PSY i just do it for fun.

    Question
    Are we pure psy at around lvl 50 are we supposed to be still hitting higher than wizzies or is it we cast faster than wizzies and rack up more damage in less time than a wizzies does?

    Im quite curious about this question
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  • Risingson - Lost City
    Risingson - Lost City Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Landslide is a good nuke, but I don't think you should spend too much spirit in it because it would make you sacrifice some much better skills (like Soulburn, Red Tide, Earth Vector, and so on... If you put too much spirits into Landslide you won't have enough for those skills).

    The aoes are nasty. I think past level 60 you really can aoe grind and kill up to 3 mobs at a time if you play it well. Not to mention they have some passive effects (freezing for Shards (has something like 80% chance to proc at lvl 10), Lowered Accuracy for Sandburst). Those are must have. Just imagine the amount of damage you can deal with all the aoes you have, let's see : Glacial Shards, Sandburst Blast, Red Tide and Earth Vector. Plus, Freeze, Lowered Accuracy, Bleeding and Stun. You also need sparks for your very last skills and the first aoes are gonna be much much helpful to get them.

    Regarding your question, I'm not sure but I was doing a lvl47 quest and a Wizard dropped by and started killing the same mobs, I was 3shotting them and he clearly wasn't, so I would assume I dealt more damage.
    Risingson - 7x Psychic
    Indalecio - 3x Cleric
  • Szol - Harshlands
    Szol - Harshlands Posts: 242 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    the aoes are even nice for single target purpose and in pvp.
    same with the emp. vigor

    one thing i didnt get till now is the aggro system in pwi.
    i have played pretty many mmos till now , but in pwi the aggro somehow is done in a different way. its like the aggro is resetted like every x seconds , where x is someting between 20 or 30 seconds. another option might be , the aggro per x seconds u put on the mob is regarding for aggro loss or aggro take but not too sure bout that.
    point is , u are still able to aggro mobs , even if the barb had time to aggro it like 10 or 15% before u start spamming skills. therefore cant be a total aggro, like it eg in blizzards comic graphics game(dunno if we are allowed to use other mmos names here)
    this said in addidtion with very short cast time for all our spells , its just a logical intension that we are pulling aggro like all the time.
    hell im getting aggro from 8x barbs spammin bite with veno sparking them.


    but i guess , wizzies got the same problems
  • CyanideX - Lost City
    CyanideX - Lost City Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    thanks heaps to everyone :) helped alot :D

    Also what about stoning my gear? is PHYS DEF stones the best for that?
  • Giodia - Heavens Tear
    Giodia - Heavens Tear Posts: 475 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Regarding your question, I'm not sure but I was doing a lvl47 quest and a Wizard dropped by and started killing the same mobs, I was 3shotting them and he clearly wasn't, so I would assume I dealt more damage.

    You might be doing more damage because you have bluemoon soul drill + blackvoodoo.

    If mages do black voodoo + pyro and gush, they could 3 shot easily too, highly dependant on build and gear.
  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    No, there is no way you'll be doing more dmg per hit end game than a wiz.
    Psy's are made for faster channeling and casting, abit like an archer.

    Regarding stones, I'd say phys def stones. It's only the phys mobs that can be a thread to you, so you'll need more phys def.
    However, since psy doesn't have an earth shield like skil, it won't do as much as for a wiz (earth shield doubles the effect of every point of phys def you get).
    Try to get a balance between hp and phys def. I think there was a topic somewhere about how much and when to use what shard, with graphs ect. You should look it up
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  • Arutsuru - Raging Tide
    Arutsuru - Raging Tide Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Guys that is simples! Max All skills... At level 80+ u'll spirit and wont have money.......

    So level everything...........
  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Guys that is simples! Max All skills... At level 80+ u'll spirit and wont have money.......

    So level everything...........

    Lol. Do't be a noob. Even if you max all your skils by 89, you'd be missing out on alot of needed skils if you lvl the useles ones before that. Cause even if you have enough at that lvl, you'll always be short on spirit before that
    9 out of 10 voices in my head say I'm not crazy... the 10th is singing the music of tetris
  • Lypiphera - Heavens Tear
    Lypiphera - Heavens Tear Posts: 289 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    this is new to me, white vodoo not do only 64att lv penalty and +99 def lv?

    or i dont reaed the skill or u (if 1st true then excuse me)

    Other way around, however that's not supposed to be 1% of your damage, it's 1% of the base magic/base physical attack portion of your damage, the x% of weapon attack and y added damage # should still apply to the attack. For example, I do not do 59% less damage when my atk level is at -59 more of instead of doing 13k damage I do 8k damage as the skill additives still apply. Even at this point though, OUCH!.

    However I do agree that leveling white voodoo is not a good idea.

    Yes at level 10 it's +66 def level and -99 atk level.
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  • Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear
    Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear Posts: 798 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Guys that is simples! Max All skills... At level 80+ u'll spirit and wont have money.......

    So level everything...........

    Not run out of skills to level yet, and easily run out of spirit (I do not use any on my genie).
    Main:
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Alts:
    Lypiphera 101 Cleric
    Incompetance 100 Blademaster
    MetalPenguin 101 Seeker

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  • Miss_Cleo - Lost City
    Miss_Cleo - Lost City Posts: 64 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Soooo...most people are ignoring their Passive skills? b:shocked

    b:surrender
  • Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear
    Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear Posts: 798 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Nope, both of mine are max. When I have no other way to increase the damage beyond lvl 10 on skills, passive is essential.
    Main:
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Alts:
    Lypiphera 101 Cleric
    Incompetance 100 Blademaster
    MetalPenguin 101 Seeker

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  • Miss_Cleo - Lost City
    Miss_Cleo - Lost City Posts: 64 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Nope, both of mine are max. When I have no other way to increase the damage beyond lvl 10 on skills, passive is essential.

    I knew you had but the rest of the thread seemed to have ignored those...

    +2% Earth/Water damage per level = PRO b:cute
  • CyanideX - Lost City
    CyanideX - Lost City Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    yea i assumed that was common sense to upgrade those lol.

    Also is there a chart anywhere that shows how much spirit the crafting skills cost at each LV?
  • Selador - Heavens Tear
    Selador - Heavens Tear Posts: 96 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Haven't maxed the "useless/secondary" skills yet, but with the new rotflesh trench quest out I don't see a problem with getting spirit anymore. At my level I have 393k extra spirit that Im not using, most from Rotflesh trench quest and some from cube of fate.
    All my attack skills are maxed or current for my level except for redtide and earth vector, water passive at lvl 7 and earth at level 9. Soul tree of course isn't maxed.
  • vycian
    vycian Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I'm a 46 Psy, and really tell you guys the truck you only need black voodoo cus as a psychic you need the damage to kill your enemies before they get to you thats the point of black voodoo it add's dmg, and plus kiting.. I never kite myself..


    but the Bubble of life lvl it it add's hp and is a tight situation you need the hp recovery so max it after you max your two primery skills....

    Max out all your AOE's..

    i have both primery maxd, black voodoo as i as i can get it at lvl 46, white voodoo at lvl one, Landslide at lvl 1 you really don't need to lvl landslide.... nor torrent cus it doesn't help all it does is get the mob closer to you and get you killed sometimes.

    soo skills to max right away at begining:

    Spirit Blast.-first
    Aqua Impact.-First
    Bubble Of Life.-thired
    Black Voodoo.-second
    AOE's. -fourth

    and best build for psychic for you new ppl just joing the best game in the world will be


    Pure magic which is

    9 mag and 1 str, hwo to distribute the points you do:

    even lvls:
    4 mag
    1 str

    Odd lvls:
    5 mag



    for you ppl who like having Vit, it's not the best build cus your having less dmg dealt but it add's physical and magic defense you do the vit build:

    7 mag
    1 str
    2 vit

    how to use:

    even lvls:
    3 mag
    1 str
    1 vit

    odd lvls:
    4 mag
    2 vit

    you really need to lvl your str every other lvl really mostly cus i'm lvl 46 phsy and I have enough str to last me till lvl 65 :o..


    well i hope you guys gain knowledge


    Sincerely,

    Vycian1427

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  • Dinysucuras - Sanctuary
    Dinysucuras - Sanctuary Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    anyone saying dont lvl landslide is a moron. seriously. every lvl it increases the pushback and the damage. currently my landslide hits harder than my maxed out first 2 skills, and it pushes the mobs back far enough for me to cast 3 spells (usually dead within 2).
  • Sangodoc - Dreamweaver
    Sangodoc - Dreamweaver Posts: 501 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Guys that is simples! Max All skills... At level 80+ u'll spirit and wont have money.......

    So level everything...........
    Wow, that would be a waste, and it doesn't help you choose what to when you have a limited amount of SP. You don't want to max White Voodoo, and some recommend not leveling any of the "Soul of X" skills either (see here, for example.)

    So, even if you have plenty of SP, that's still bad advice.
  • SacredPride - Heavens Tear
    SacredPride - Heavens Tear Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Aqua Impact & Spirit Blast - MAX
    Glacial Shards - Umm, I guess
    Bubble of Life - Good skill, especially when you don't have cleric, I would max.
    Black Voodoo - MAX
    White Voodoo - People say its useless, ITS NOT. Its a useful skill at times of need. Like when you wanna help a friend and can't find a tank, white voodoo can make you into a squishy tank, and impossible to die unless you don't have a cleric.

    I honestly think these are some of the skills in a list of 10 skills you should max. I mean what else would you max?

    One thing though, don't max any of the skills that has "Soul" starting with it. Learn it, don't max it. My Soul of Vengeance is L5 or L6 and I regret it, al though the range for it can come in handy, its not worth the spirit points... yet.

    But in the end, you should be able to max everything.
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