Help me understand Recast.

God - Dreamweaver
God - Dreamweaver Posts: 36 Arc User
edited January 2010 in General Discussion
So I gathered enough Dragon orbs to +12 an end game weapon. I decided on the Lunar Weapon "Howling Hurricane" because of the stun mod and hoping to get Sacrificial Assult as a mod on second recast.

Although my barb is only lvl 92 ATM, I will be trying to fully recast that weapon. However, I don't totally understand the recast process. I will list my assumption of the steps and you can correct me if you find a mistake.

1st. You will need your weapon (Howling Hurricane)
2nd. Gather 100 weapon recast mats from Nirvana.
3rd. First recast will change the appearance while keeping the original stats.
4th. Gather 150 weapon recast mats from Nirvana.
5th. 2nd recast will let you keep original stats while adding random major and a minor mod from a pool of pre-selected mods. The newly recasted weapon will become G15.
6th. You can re-roll the major + minor mods as many times as you want for 7 weapon recast mats.

Here are some of my questions about this whole Nirvana gear recast.
I know that recasting will let you keep your refines and gems but does it require more Nirvana mats to recast a +12 weapon than a non-refined weapon? If it does, any one know how much more? How long do you think it will take for someone to gather 100 mats from Nirvana?

Anyone know anything?
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  • eternalnab
    eternalnab Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    God - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    So I gathered enough Dragon orbs to +12 an end game weapon. I decided on the Lunar Weapon "Howling Hurricane" because of the stun mod and hoping to get Sacrificial Assult as a mod on second recast.

    Although my barb is only lvl 92 ATM, I will be trying to fully recast that weapon. However, I don't totally understand the recast process. I will list my assumption of the steps and you can correct me if you find a mistake.

    1st. You will need your weapon (Howling Hurricane)
    2nd. Gather 100 weapon recast mats from Nirvana.
    3rd. First recast will change the appearance while keeping the original stats.
    4th. Gather 150 weapon recast mats from Nirvana.
    5th. 2nd recast will let you keep original stats while adding random major and a minor mod from a pool of pre-selected mods. The newly recasted weapon will become G15.
    6th. You can re-roll the major + minor mods as many times as you want for 7 weapon recast mats.

    Here are some of my questions about this whole Nirvana gear recast.
    I know that recasting will let you keep your refines and gems but does it require more Nirvana mats to recast a +12 weapon than a non-refined weapon? If it does, any one know how much more? How long do you think it will take for someone to gather 100 mats from Nirvana?

    Anyone know anything?
    there is not end game weapon yet nub,,, but at current ones i feel sorry for you
  • Reivi - Sanctuary
    Reivi - Sanctuary Posts: 742 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    if you go to Nirvana forges and look at the different options for your weapon

    you ll see

    1 = first recast augments the damages of your weapon, and she becomes a 2* red one.

    2= second recast. augments your damages again.. but it looks like you lose all the stats, and you gain a new one.

    3= following recasts , add a new stat.

    no refine trsnfert stone in game yet.
    I look at all the trollers, and Pvpers.. and know they wouldnt have lasted 30sec on Camelot.

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  • God - Dreamweaver
    God - Dreamweaver Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    eternalnab wrote: »
    there is not end game weapon yet nub,,, but at current ones i feel sorry for you

    Once again in English?
    Reivi - Sanctuary wrote: »
    if you go to Nirvana forges and look at the different options for your weapon

    you ll see

    1 = first recast augments the damages of your weapon, and she becomes a 2* red one.

    2= second recast. augments your damages again.. but it looks like you lose all the stats, and you gain a new one.

    3= following recasts , add a new stat.

    no refine trsnfert stone in game yet.

    Aww.. man. I was thinking that stun with sacrificial assult would be awesome on the weapon..
  • ArchAngel - Dreamweaver
    ArchAngel - Dreamweaver Posts: 172 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    it is still unknown if transfer stones will ever be implemented in PWI, so it may be wise to hold your refines for a bit longer.

    Perhaps the GMs can give us an explanation why it is not when it is in other versions of the game.b:scorn
  • God - Dreamweaver
    God - Dreamweaver Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    ArchAngel - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    it is still unknown if transfer stones will ever be implemented in PWI, so it may be wise to hold your refines for a bit longer.

    Perhaps the GMs can give us an explanation why it is not when it is in other versions of the game.b:scorn

    What does it have to do with refine transfer stone? I thought we don't need that to transfer refines when we recast nor is it needed in the process in this version?
  • Pot_Head - Harshlands
    Pot_Head - Harshlands Posts: 701 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Good luck with that OP.
    So how much you spend to +12 a weapon?
  • Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,864 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Pot_Head - Harshlands wrote: »
    Good luck with that OP.
    So how much you spend to +12 a weapon?

    3042 gold. So 1521 mil with current gold prices.
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  • Pot_Head - Harshlands
    Pot_Head - Harshlands Posts: 701 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    3042 gold. So 1521 mil with current gold prices.
    oh ty for answering that.
    I got a question if u can answer it.
    can u tell me how much it cost to make a G10 Garnet shard I can't seem to figure out?
  • God - Dreamweaver
    God - Dreamweaver Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    3042 gold. So 1521 mil with current gold prices.

    It's a lot cheaper to use 10 star orbs. I sold of a lot of my 1 stars and got 7 10 stars.
  • Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,864 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Pot_Head - Harshlands wrote: »
    oh ty for answering that.
    I got a question if u can answer it.
    can u tell me how much it cost to make a G10 Garnet shard I can't seem to figure out?

    In theory that would be 114m in shabby shards, but since world bosses also drop grade 9 shards, you can buy 5 of those and I'd say it totals at about 15 mil (which is about the price of a grade 11 shard I believe...).
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  • Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,864 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    God - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    It's a lot cheaper to use 10 star orbs. I sold of a lot of my 1 stars and got 7 10 stars.

    Yeah I forgot about that, but it's only wise to use those past +7 since a 7 d. orb is 64.5 gold and a 10 star is 75. But it would indeed save you about 500 gold from 7 -> 10.
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  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Well, you don't lose refinement lvl if you recast. No need to worry about that
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  • God - Dreamweaver
    God - Dreamweaver Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Well, you don't lose refinement lvl if you recast. No need to worry about that

    Yes but I think it will cost you more mats in order to recast something with high refine and gemmed than something that has no refine nor gem.
  • Devoted - Lost City
    Devoted - Lost City Posts: 3,634 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I heard there can't be any gems in the weapon when you cast it. Just a rumor...
  • God - Dreamweaver
    God - Dreamweaver Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Seriously.. we need more information about this whole recast thing.. GMs, how about a Q and A thread about this?
  • Santacruz - Heavens Tear
    Santacruz - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,776 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    i just want to be 100 so i can do the instance

    my TT99 is in the bank looking at me for company :(

    and yea more information from the gms would be helpfull, wont be getting it anytime soon tho
  • God - Dreamweaver
    God - Dreamweaver Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Santacruz - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    i just want to be 100 so i can do the instance

    my TT99 is in the bank looking at me for company :(

    and yea more information from the gms would be helpfull, wont be getting it anytime soon tho

    I just want more information so I can decide which weapon to +12 and if I should refine it now or wait till after the recasts so I can save on the recast mats. Come on GMs~
  • Devoted - Lost City
    Devoted - Lost City Posts: 3,634 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    God - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I just want more information so I can decide which weapon to +12 and if I should refine it now or wait till after the recasts so I can save on the recast mats. Come on GMs~

    tbh i wouldn't wait for a gm reply as there is almost a guarantee it won't be correct. if anything, +5 the weapon and +12 it when u get the g15 version (good luck with that) or wait for the playerbase to confirm it.
  • Astarielle - Heavens Tear
    Astarielle - Heavens Tear Posts: 65 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    No one seems to know about refines transferring so I know a few like me who are holding off doing any refining or sharding until the confusion is cleared.

    I found a link to a post from some other version with SS of how the upgrades work, but it neglects to show the refines/shards - whether these need transfer stones which we don't have in this version (yet?)

    One friend did go to the nirvana forges with a GM but the GM could give no clarification on how this works - hopefully the GM is following this up and an explanation will come soon...

    I've yet to get a squad of people wanting to try nirvana in my timezone anyway but maybe this will change with the current bonus zen thing.

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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    You need to have the refinement transfer stones in order for your Gems, Sockets and FULL refine to carry over.

    When you go to recast, it will ask you for a set amount of these stones if your refine/gems are of a certain level.

    b:surrender Takes a while to farm these though so maybe the full answers will come by the time some get enough of the Crystals (100 for armor). Needless to say if you split the mats between everyone, you are lucky to get one Uncanny (armor) a run and one Rapture (weapon) every 2-4 runs b:surrender
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  • Ty - Heavens Tear
    Ty - Heavens Tear Posts: 604 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Surely it's not that hard for a GM to trial this. Can't they just conjure up the necessary gems, weapons, shards, and refines to give us some answers?
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