A Misunderstanding

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  • Pot_Head - Harshlands
    Pot_Head - Harshlands Posts: 701 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Zora_Link - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Today I helped on 3 fb19s, 2 of them had no barbarian. On both of the fb19s with no barb i was asked to tank over the blademaster. We succeeded(barely) in killing the bosses, but they did not listen to what I was telling them. There seems to have been a widespread misunderstanding. Since both barbs and BMs have a certain amount of tanking prowess, ppl seem to be under the assumption that all melee users are good tanks. I'm posting to clear all this up for anyone who doesn't know. Assassins are STRICTLY damage dealers. We can't hold aggro very well, I know, I tried(however if the cleric has screwed up stats we can hold aggro over the cleric's healing alone). We cannot steal aggro if we lose it. We cannot take as many hits as a blademaster or barbarian. Now, I realize that assassins have good magic defense, but that will do no good if the boss pays us no mind. we simply are not tanks.

    DO NOT ask an assassin to tank
    DO NOT blame an assassin for not tanking well
    DO NOT PASS GO
    DO NOT Collect $200

    was it really that hard for a Fb19 boss
  • Jellytops - Heavens Tear
    Jellytops - Heavens Tear Posts: 141 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Paer - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Well on my first fb19 run with 3 sins. ON my tb psy they actually said "who's going to tank". Then they said are you going to tank? And they had all their characters looking at me. Because we all know AA pure build is WAY better tanking than LA classes who actually ahve some dodge. Seriously, i hate morons.

    I don't know which lvl those sins were, but since they asked you, I'm pressuming they weren't that high. This early, I'm not sure if their dodge really have anything to say. I don't think they'll dodge so much that it will matter anything.

    So what you're saying, is that you would always prefer an LA to tank if the only other choice is AA? Because they can dodge?
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  • Barbariankev - Heavens Tear
    Barbariankev - Heavens Tear Posts: 831 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    ok this thread is weird and filled with new players i think

    first off all the fb19 bosses are all pure physical(atleast the 3 original ones i dunno if you could call the TB cave an fb)

    so on survivability the best choice would either be a barb or bm since they have the highest p.def this assuming everyone is equally geared and lvled
    or ofc a veno

    at magical bosses an magic class would be best wizzy for water,earth and fire bosses due to the shield they have other AA classes can do it to better then LA or HA classes

    LA is best to tank when they quite outleveled the bosses compared to the rest off the squad

    note: i only putted in survivability in defence in this post and didnt post anything about hp and agro skils to keep some confusion away

    note 2:this post assumes everyone is equally geared most off the time
    its impossible to always do the right thing we all make mistakes i am not different from that
    just try to be a good person

    english isn't my native language so there might be a few spelling/grammatical errors in my posts
  • Redmenace - Heavens Tear
    Redmenace - Heavens Tear Posts: 908 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Frankly, I am deeply disappointed in OP. The *last* thing I ever expected to see in this forum is yet another race, especially one of the vaunted "new" races, not claiming "I can tank just as well as a barb!"

    Where are the usual comments about Barbs being egotistical bastages, or demanding payment and requiring bowing and scraping to get them to tank, and then robbing you blind afterwards?

    Is it the season, is that why all you people are slacking off?

    Where's the dedication?

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  • Jellytops - Heavens Tear
    Jellytops - Heavens Tear Posts: 141 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Hey, what the heck. Let's try spending some points in vit and str instead, and make an army of HA sins b:pleased I'm startin to get enough of barbs being egotistical bastages, or demanding payment and requiring bowing and scraping to get them to tank, and then robbing you blind afterwards b:angry

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  • Redmenace - Heavens Tear
    Redmenace - Heavens Tear Posts: 908 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Jellytops - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Hey, what the heck. Let's try spending some points in vit and str instead, and make an army of HA sins b:pleased I'm startin to get enough of barbs being egotistical bastages, or demanding payment and requiring bowing and scraping to get them to tank, and then robbing you blind afterwards b:angry

    **Dedicated to RedMenace** b:victory

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  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Paer - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Well on my first fb19 run with 3 sins. ON my tb psy they actually said "who's going to tank". Then they said are you going to tank? And they had all their characters looking at me. Because we all know AA pure build is WAY better tanking than LA classes who actually ahve some dodge. Seriously, i hate morons.

    I guess the fact that Psys have a skill that reduces ALL damage should not be taken into account when looking into who tanks.... If a Psy's AA armor is sharded with pdef, they should be able to tank pretty well.

    In the "kill the octapus" "FB19" the party I was in was 3 sins and myself as a Psy. The sins died when trying to tank it, I was able to tank the boss, even though I was a pure magic build psy. White voodoo+fish form+reflect makes for a nice tank.
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