TT runs

LSHOTwOnder - Sanctuary

Can someone please list which TT's are soloable in squad mode and single and at which level as a veno w/ herc. Thank you

Vitenka - Dreamweaver

Well, I can't go too far:

TT11 you can do chin right away at 60, drummer I tanked in mid sixties, he eats pots like candy though - probably best to avoid that.
TT12 you can again do chin right away. Snake I'd leave until you get the 73 heal, Soulbanisher and Dimentora I'd avoid like the proverbial plague and drummer eats even more healing.
Edit: I actually tanked TT13 dimentora at 79, though not by choice - so I'm guessing TT12 could be done any time after the 73 heal, with decent -channel gear.

TT21 you can do the first (ape-lion) boss at 73, and the claw devourer thingy too.
Warlurd is out. Forget it. Not a chance. It'll eat your Herc in one shot even at 79.
Feng is... annoying. I've done him at 75, but I've also failed him at 79. I'd suggest limiting yourself to spamhealing even if you don't think you need to.

TT22 is pretty much the same, watching someone else tank - but I'd really want the 83 heals to do it.

GasLeak - Dreamweaver

Basically all single modes are soloable as soon as you can open. Don't even need a herc. Dunno about 3-3, but i bet it's no different.

Here's a list of what you can do in squad mode at 93 with at least -30% channeling, a HP charm and some damage reduce potions (AoE b:shocked).

TT 1-1

All bosses.

TT 1-2

All bosses.

TT 1-3

Generally all bosses, but Soulbanisher sometimes gets a really good damage roll and then you're screwed so he's not 100% safe.

TT 2-1

Generally all bosses, but Wurlord sometimes gets a really good damage roll and then you're screwed so he's not 100% safe.

TT 2-2

Fataliqua, Soulripper, Feng and Astralwalker are not a problem.

Cosmoforce is extremely risky, you can pull him off about 4 out of 10 times. Good news is, teleport is near so you can just hop in there in case things go bad. I suggest spamming whatever genie skill debuff you have to amplify herc's damage output and both Myriad skills so you get as many armor breaks as possible. Without any kind of debuffing, he will start hitting insanely hard at about 30% of his HP to the point where you can't outheal him any more. So he has to die fast.

Wurlord is a no go.

TT 2-3

Fataliqua, Soulripper, Astralwalker are not a problem.

Feng is doable, but sometimes gets a bad damage roll...let's call him a 9 out of 10 times good to go boss.

Cosmoforce, Wurlord are a no go.

Ancient evil... <.>

TT 3-1

All bosses, except Djinnscream since he's timed.
He also prevents you from opening the door to Deathflow which you can otherwise easily handle as well.

TT 3-2

Tried Coredash and Nemen so far, both were ok. Dunno if you can actually kill Nemen without a squad though since he's spawning mobs all over.

Tried Twilight Minister, but died via aoe since my charm ran out by then and i had no pots. Before i bit the dust he seemed ok.

Can't say much else though since i only did one 3-2 run so far.

TT 3-3

No clue.

rinuruc

GasLeak - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Basically all single modes are soloable as soon as you can open. Don't even need a herc. Dunno about 3-3, but i bet it's no different.

Here's a list of what you can do in squad mode at 93 with at least -30% channeling, a HP charm and some damage reduce potions (AoE b:shocked).

TT 1-1

All bosses.

TT 1-2

All bosses.

TT 1-3

Generally all bosses, but Soulbanisher sometimes gets a really good damage roll and then you're screwed so he's not 100% safe.

TT 2-1

Generally all bosses, but Wurlord sometimes gets a really good damage roll and then you're screwed so he's not 100% safe.

TT 2-2

Fataliqua, Soulripper, Feng and Astralwalker are not a problem.

Cosmoforce is extremely risky, you can pull him off about 4 out of 10 times. Good news is, teleport is near so you can just hop in there in case things go bad. I suggest spamming whatever genie skill debuff you have to amplify herc's damage output and both Myriad skills so you get as many armor breaks as possible. Without any kind of debuffing, he will start hitting insanely hard at about 30% of his HP to the point where you can't outheal him any more. So he has to die fast.

Wurlord is a no go.

TT 2-3

Fataliqua, Soulripper, Astralwalker are not a problem.

Feng is doable, but sometimes gets a bad damage roll...let's call him a 9 out of 10 times good to go boss.

Cosmoforce, Wurlord are a no go.

Ancient evil... <.>

TT 3-1

All bosses, except Djinnscream since he's timed.
He also prevents you from opening the door to Deathflow which you can otherwise easily handle as well.

TT 3-2

Tried Coredash and Nemen so far, both were ok. Dunno if you can actually kill Nemen without a squad though since he's spawning mobs all over.

Tried Twilight Minister, but died via aoe since my charm ran out by then and i had no pots. Before i bit the dust he seemed ok.

Can't say much else though since i only did one 3-2 run so far.

TT 3-3

No clue.

u say all solomodes as soon as they open,... but im assuming some tactics if u dont have a herc??? like how to do wurlord in 2-1 solomode without a herc,... what pet would u suggest??? and what skills on the pet??? and so on,... (would a level 70 glacial walker be able to do him, with just the basic skills on it??? (if you are light build, and didnt get clericbuffs before u entered,... (assuming 3k magic atk minimal and maximal 3500,...) with the level 73 petheal,... no channelgears,... would that do good? or just fail?)
(aiming for a resetnote very soon,... but also aiming for sleaves of sea captain and alacantha sunflame (need alacantha first for that)) (yeye level 78 veno with **** pets (i love my scorpion(level 73 scorp, got four agroskills on it, but still need petskilllevelupbooks to do em to level four, so by the time i got those books, i ll be level 80 n i can do em to level five already XD) , but due to wq and bh i rarely grind anymore so pets dont level with me anymore :S ) and light build i know its a fail but im trying to change it,... just need to empty about 54 dex n 24str n 13vit or so,... ;-) ) (atm got 74 str n 74 dex n some 18vit or so,...

/NiKi - Lost City

dont know about all pets,but i know magmite and shadou cub tank solo mode without problems
just get some skill for aggro..i prefer roar b:cute
u can lvl all ground pets in cube,in room 4,u get max exp for pet in there and mobs are 1 shot so thats not the problem,u can get ur pet on ur lvl in few hrs.
not sure about la healing abilities gonna leave that to some1 else to answer b:surrender

rinuruc

/NiKi - Lost City wrote: »

dont know about all pets,but i know magmite and shadou cub tank solo mode without problems
just get some skill for aggro..i prefer roar b:cute
u can lvl all ground pets in cube,in room 4,u get max exp for pet in there and mobs are 1 shot so thats not the problem,u can get ur pet on ur lvl in few hrs.
not sure about la healing abilities gonna leave that to some1 else to answer b:surrender

the thing im wondering is,... will scorpion be able to tank some??? (if i level it to 78 without tough or any alike,... but as a full DD (cheap without claw) build,...)
otherwise i got to levelup walker a bit more or so,... :S or would eldergoth be any good???

/NiKi - Lost City

i never used scorpion but i think he got good dmg and not as much hp and def,so i dont think u would be able to tank it with it.
i think best would be if u get magmite or glacial walker then take it to cube and get it to ur lvl,much faster then grinding with pet for lvls.

rinuruc

/NiKi - Lost City wrote: »

i never used scorpion but i think he got good dmg and not as much hp and def,so i dont think u would be able to tank it with it.
i think best would be if u get magmite or glacial walker then take it to cube and get it to ur lvl,much faster then grinding with pet for lvls.

the thing is,... im got to study for the next five weeks n do exams n such,... and after a whole day of algebra im already braindead enough that i cant be bothered to go to cube,...

Mivi - Lost City

Originally Posted by GasLeak - Dreamweaver
Basically all single modes are soloable as soon as you can open. Don't even need a herc. Dunno about 3-3, but i bet it's no different.

Here's a list of what you can do in squad mode at 93 with at least -30% channeling, a HP charm and some damage reduce potions (AoE ).

TT 1-1

All bosses.

TT 1-2

All bosses.

TT 1-3

Generally all bosses, but Soulbanisher sometimes gets a really good damage roll and then you're screwed so he's not 100% safe.

TT 2-1

Generally all bosses, but Wurlord sometimes gets a really good damage roll and then you're screwed so he's not 100% safe.

TT 2-2

Fataliqua, Soulripper, Feng and Astralwalker are not a problem.

Cosmoforce is extremely risky, you can pull him off about 4 out of 10 times. Good news is, teleport is near so you can just hop in there in case things go bad. I suggest spamming whatever genie skill debuff you have to amplify herc's damage output and both Myriad skills so you get as many armor breaks as possible. Without any kind of debuffing, he will start hitting insanely hard at about 30% of his HP to the point where you can't outheal him any more. So he has to die fast.

Wurlord is a no go.

TT 2-3

Fataliqua, Soulripper, Astralwalker are not a problem.

Feng is doable, but sometimes gets a bad damage roll...let's call him a 9 out of 10 times good to go boss.

Cosmoforce, Wurlord are a no go.

Ancient evil... <.>

TT 3-1

All bosses, except Djinnscream since he's timed.
He also prevents you from opening the door to Deathflow which you can otherwise easily handle as well.

TT 3-2

Tried Coredash and Nemen so far, both were ok. Dunno if you can actually kill Nemen without a squad though since he's spawning mobs all over.

Tried Twilight Minister, but died via aoe since my charm ran out by then and i had no pots. Before i bit the dust he seemed ok.

Can't say much else though since i only did one 3-2 run so far.

TT 3-3

No clue.

drum in 1-2 can hit me (arcane full mag) for 2000 and more at the end
drum in 1-3 can oneshot my herc with matk, same for soulbanisher >_>

wurlord 2-1 can take out 3/4 of life of a herc with a combo
in solo mode i killed him with a magmite bad skilled wen i was lv 69


wurlord 2-2 can deals on a normal hit 3500 >_>
cosmoforce 2-2 can hit often an herc lv 85 for 3400-3600 (buffed)
is easy doubleshoot an herc for him

also fataliqua here can be bad
wurlord 2-3 cosmoforce 2-3 not tankable for a herc
astrawalker 2-2 and 2-3 the problem is just if the guard hitten your herc all at the same time

last time ancient evil deals 5400 damange on my herc (lv85)

in 3-1 the only problem is the time boss
in 3-2 and 3-3 boss have aoes, green hulk can sleep u, emperor can hit insanely hard and i see some lv 100 herc got oneshotted from nemen 3-3
b:thanks

GasLeak - Dreamweaver

drum in 1-2 can hit me (arcane full mag) for 2000 and more at the end

Wait until 90+ where you'll have more HP and Pdef. Getting hit for 2k is really nothing particularly dangerous.

drum in 1-3 can oneshot my herc with matk, same for soulbanisher >_>

Havent had herc 1-shot by either of these, but as i said, i wrote this for level 93. Only thing i have a problem with is Soul hitting extremely hard twice in a row. The mag attack is followed by a melee attack. The melee attack usually kills your herc because he's on low HP due to the mag one. It's important to time a heal right between the 2 attacks.

wurlord 2-1 can take out 3/4 of life of a herc with a combo

You should be able to outheal that with 1 heal as a pure mag at 90+. Also, channeling. Nobody can handle wurlord without channeling.

wurlord 2-2 can deals on a normal hit 3500 >_>

Yes, hence why i said it's not tankable.

cosmoforce 2-2 can hit often an herc lv 85 for 3400-3600 (buffed)
is easy doubleshoot an herc for him

1 hit = 1 heal which is why you need channeling.

wurlord 2-3 cosmoforce 2-3 not tankable for a herc

Yep.

astrawalker 2-2 and 2-3 the problem is just if the guard hitten your herc all at the same time

Astral is a problem when you don't know how to position yourself and your pet.

last time ancient evil deals 5400 damange on my herc (lv85)

;D


Look, if you really wanna take the most out of TT you need the following: knowledge, level, channeling, pdef, hit points, a charm, event pots, damage reduction potions and preferably a revive scroll or 2. This doesn't mean you'll use up a crapton of recources in TT all the time, it means you're prepared for everything, like unexpected situations or particularly difficult bosses.

Timed heals are really important, not just spamming the heal hotkey. Learning a ''chain heal'' (2nd heal channels Immediately after the 1st one unlike mostly, where your toon stands there for like half a second or so between heals). *Note: this doesn't work 3 times in a row.
Learning the attack rhytm of a boss.
Using the regular spark eruption for withstanding an aoe attack.
Getting buffed before going in...
The above mentioned can save you a lot of time and a lot of frustration, just takes practice and preparation.

Vidalaire - Heavens Tear

Look like you've got most of the bosses covered. I will say that I've solo healed 2-1 Wurlord with no channeling gear. However, my Herc has also died from 2-1 Wurlord when it was being duo healed. So, 2-1 Wurlord is do-able, but very, very iffy.

For 3-2 and 3-3, most of those bosses have sleep AoEs and close range physical AoEs. The normal mobs in there(Wrath Fighters, Big Twilight guys that look like FB69 bosses) hit as hard as bosses too. I would not recommend doing either without a full squad. Nemen is tankable with a Herc. You just pull him into the room next to where he is after you clear the Wrath Fighters out to avoid the mobs he summons. Keep in mind, Nemen hits really hard.

rinuruc

Vidalaire - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Look like you've got most of the bosses covered. I will say that I've solo healed 2-1 Wurlord with no channeling gear. However, my Herc has also died from 2-1 Wurlord when it was being duo healed. So, 2-1 Wurlord is do-able, but very, very iffy.

For 3-2 and 3-3, most of those bosses have sleep AoEs and close range physical AoEs. The normal mobs in there(Wrath Fighters, Big Twilight guys that look like FB69 bosses) hit as hard as bosses too. I would not recommend doing either without a full squad. Nemen is tankable with a Herc. You just pull him into the room next to where he is after you clear the Wrath Fighters out to avoid the mobs he summons. Keep in mind, Nemen hits really hard.

what tt is doable with a free pet,... (preferably one that doesnt need much leveling up and that doesnt need much skilling up either,... coz atm im planning on getting some skill-upgrade-books for my scorp,... or either getting a resetnote so im all arcane,... and cant really afford getting an expensive pet atm,... (also aiming for alacantha sunflame,... since that one gives consistent heals,... but atm level 78,... should i get to 80 n get an armored bear??? would that be any good to solo tt 2-1??? (i think on dreamweaver those arent extremely expensive though it ll probably cost me 1mil or so,... so it ll be either bear or resetnote,... (since the sunflame will probably take me some more time,... ;-) got 20 subs, so thats oke already,... two goldmats will take me another 4mil,... got the chips already for em,... but 4mil is a lot,... :S and the other mats shouldnt be that expensive either,... the normal alacantha im guessing another 1mil,... so six mil to go for the sunflame and 2mil for the resetnote n 1mil for the bear,... any thoughts on what i should get first??? (or any sponsors on dreamweaver???))))

/NiKi - Lost City

rinuruc wrote: »

what tt is doable with a free pet,... (preferably one that doesnt need much leveling up and that doesnt need much skilling up either,... coz atm im planning on getting some skill-upgrade-books for my scorp,... or either getting a resetnote so im all arcane,... and cant really afford getting an expensive pet atm,... (also aiming for alacantha sunflame,... since that one gives consistent heals,... but atm level 78,... should i get to 80 n get an armored bear??? would that be any good to solo tt 2-1??? (i think on dreamweaver those arent extremely expensive though it ll probably cost me 1mil or so,... so it ll be either bear or resetnote,... (since the sunflame will probably take me some more time,... ;-) got 20 subs, so thats oke already,... two goldmats will take me another 4mil,... got the chips already for em,... but 4mil is a lot,... :S and the other mats shouldnt be that expensive either,... the normal alacantha im guessing another 1mil,... so six mil to go for the sunflame and 2mil for the resetnote n 1mil for the bear,... any thoughts on what i should get first??? (or any sponsors on dreamweaver???))))

alright..lets make it clear.

without effort>no profit b:bye

dont think u gonna find any sponsors cuz most of them worked hard for what they have.
1st of all if u dont have much money,i think u aim too high wanting gold weapons for lvl80,leave that for hh90,just get normal hh80 green weapons.
solo mode dont really pays off,because drop rate is much lower and thats if u manage to finish solo mode because u dont want to lvl pet which can tank.
magmite is one of best tanking and FREE pets but u would have to lvl it,idk about glacial walker since they are recently added but u would have to lvl little bit that one too,
same for shadou cub,also u have to lvl it.
now if u dont wanna find time to lvl them,forget about hh cuz u gonna spend more then gain.
probably some of exp,alot of pots,wasted sub and u wont be able to even finish it
because u dont have pet of ur lvl for it.
i think upgrading scorp should do those who can afford it,since u said u dont got much money atm,better spend it on buying magmite or shadou of ur lvl, cuz u dont need much pets:
1 tanking,1 pulling,1 flying and 1 for water,only on tanking pet and flying one u should spend some money on upgrading skills.
better try find a squad and some1 else tanks,so u do squad mode and split the mats.
if u want hh to pays off,and without splitting profit,focus on the pet 1st.
from 80 to 90 it doesnt take so long,so better use normal hh weapons
cuz u cant even resell it after since it gets bound.
reset note,u can do that any time u got extra money for it.

rinuruc

the thing is,... atm i cant get money by anything,... if i cant solo TT than how do i get money??? (id better make a bm than and just aoe grind,... since im usually one of the last picks in TT since im a DD,... so im not gonna get any TTmats i want, or any decent money by doing tt,... than either i levelup my bm so i can go aoe grind,... or i levelup my barb so i can get goldmats everytime there drops one in tt,... (merchanting every class can do so im not counting on that)) (and the sponsors that was a joke,... ;-) )

/NiKi - Lost City

hmm then idk maybe u should keep making new characters and lvl them up to 60-70,quit and make another..cuz every class costs.
u cant aoe grind with ur bm without hp charm or cleric with u + repairs.
and dont know why u think barbs get gold mats,usually its the one who sub,who set up the run.
playing barb costs too,every class need something.
either mp or hp charm u gonna need,or even both,or legendary pets.
this game is ''sort of'' balanced.if u are looking for class wheres easy to get rich without putting any effort to it,u wont find it lol
and yes,solo mode dont pays off,sometimes after u finish run u realize u would earn more with selling those subs then what u gain in mats.
u can get money by alot of things,how every other player gets it?
theres alot of people who not charging gold and also are able to get stuff,just need little bit of effort.
go farm high mats,u can make 2mil in few hrs with that.

Mivi - Lost City

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drum in 1-2 can hit me (arcane full mag) for 2000 and more at the end

Wait until 90+ where you'll have more HP and Pdef. Getting hit for 2k is really nothing particularly dangerous.

yay >_< for now is half of my life

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drum in 1-3 can oneshot my herc with matk, same for soulbanisher >_>

Havent had herc 1-shot by either of these, but as i said, i wrote this for level 93. Only thing i have a problem with is Soul hitting extremely hard twice in a row. The mag attack is followed by a melee attack. The melee attack usually kills your herc because he's on low HP due to the mag one. It's important to time a heal right between the 2 attacks.

my herc was 83, and at that level if theyr deals lucky hit with matk, bye bye

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wurlord 2-1 can take out 3/4 of life of a herc with a combo

You should be able to outheal that with 1 heal as a pure mag at 90+. Also, channeling. Nobody can handle wurlord without channeling.

soon i crush him >_< that bad hh kitchen chef

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wurlord 2-2 can deals on a normal hit 3500 >_>

Yes, hence why i said it's not tankable.

u.u

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cosmoforce 2-2 can hit often an herc lv 85 for 3400-3600 (buffed)
is easy doubleshoot an herc for him

1 hit = 1 heal which is why you need channeling.

herc lv 84 full healt = 3650 hp ~

3650 -
3400 =
250

250+
2277 = (max heal for me at that moment)
2527

2527 -
3400 = (monkey! u hit again for 3400 ? O_O)
herc dead

or 2 veno minus or the blessing of the god of channelling u.u

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astrawalker 2-2 and 2-3 the problem is just if the guard hitten your herc all at the same time

Astral is a problem when you don't know how to position yourself and your pet.

same i think, so be careful and don't try this at home O_O

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last time ancient evil deals 5400 damange on my herc (lv85)

;D

my herc told me after :<<whoaa, was fun !>>

kenlee

there are solo TT runs that can bring you money. i know many venos, including myself, who got a good amount of money for their hercule from solo TT runs. look at the market, what ppl need more and what can you solo. now, with the new glacial pet i think its even better.
about random TT runs, on our server we split TT loot equally. barb dont get gold mats by default and... would be stupid to think that ppl with subs will get more mats since subs are damn cheap. just dont go in a squad with greedy ppl. btw, my herc tank more bosses than a barb, should i get gold mats by default?

/NiKi - Lost City

yes u can get lucky and get some drops which is gonna bring u some profit,
but also u gotta be prepared that there is a chance u dont get any drops.
i went to solo mode for forshura cuz friend needed couple of mats,did 2 runs and 0 mats,
just few mirages,only wasted subs.would be better i sold them. b:surrender
that rarely happens in squad mode,even if u have bad run u will get atleast 1 mat.
like kenlee said,herc can tank most of bosses,so why would barb get gold mats?
plus barb in a squad doesnt mean anything without cleric,then that means cleric got same right
to get gold mat (by default) as barb.
i dont go in random squads for hh,usually with people i know,mostly from faction.
if i didnt set up the run,and didnt sub it,i dont expect gold mats to be handed to me just cuz i tank it.
squad mode does pay off even if mats are splitted,just find people who u can trust.

Vitenka - Dreamweaver

Well, a true squad only costs you time (subs get paid for by mirages seems to be the norm)

But yes - it is indeed somewhat annoying that I can outdamage everyone by a wide margin (taking aggro from the barb even with his aggro skills just with raw damage on the pet) AND tank (most of) the bosses - and still get one mat because I'm last pick.
Ninety minutes for a single material seems... a bad trade. But it's more fun than grinding, so it's probably a wash.

Solo mode... yeah. You're at risk of getting nothing. But it's really easy to do, and quicker.

Soloing a squad mode is, it must be said, where it's at. It's just annoying if you overestimate your ability because then you're out on your **** with nothing to show for it.

So anyway, yeah - new info.
I can tank TT12 Dimentora. I didn't think I could, but I did. I'm 79 with -15% channel. You'll need a cleric or a charm for the nastier bits of aoe probably though.

/NiKi - Lost City

just move more from the boss and u will avoid his aoe,only pet is gonna get hit.
only while u pulling it on side aoe is gonna reach u,have ticked my charm few times,till i got more practice in it..
bramble hood helps,so as soul transfusion or feral,79 skill. b:surrender

rinuruc

barb first pick, than cleric and than dds by level,... so if gold mat drops veno never gets it,... :S n bm can easily aoe grind without a charm,... (and without cleric,...)

IceJazmin - Heavens Tear

rinuruc wrote: »

barb first pick, than cleric and than dds by level,... so if gold mat drops veno never gets it,... :S n bm can easily aoe grind without a charm,... (and without cleric,...)

Apparently not many people know how to use apoc pots.... So yah, I agree with you.

/NiKi - Lost City

IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Apparently not many people know how to use apoc pots.... So yah, I agree with you.

i agree but if he dont wanna lvl his pet cuz it takes time,he probably wont farm herbs to get apot.pots either b:surrender

IceJazmin - Heavens Tear

/NiKi - Lost City wrote: »

i agree but if he dont wanna lvl his pet cuz it takes time,he probably wont farm herbs to get apot.pots either b:surrender

very good point as well

Lucky for the OP he is playing a veno, where money just drops into our inventory while we sit around chatting in Arch.... oh wait, that can be anyone with a catshop...

CrimsonAkuMa - Heavens Tear

Question x,x
Can a lvl 83 veno tank the last boss in TT 2-2? /forgot the name >.>"'/
I tryed at lvl 82 and the guards that pop up ooown my herc XDDD can't handle 2 mobs and one boss -.-''''
can I go up the chain or something? O-O or do I need a healer?
edit: I do have -chan gear x,x but they all take more than half and I still can't keep up with them

Reivi - Sanctuary

CrimsonAkuMa - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Question x,x
Can a lvl 83 veno tank the last boss in TT 2-2? /forgot the name >.>"'/
I tryed at lvl 82 and the guards that pop up ooown my herc XDDD can't handle 2 mobs and one boss -.-''''
can I go up the chain or something? O-O or do I need a healer?
edit: I do have -chan gear x,x but they all take more than half and I still can't keep up with them

just need to know where to position yourself and herc.. (when in the right position you only have 2 adds on the herc.. and most of the time.; they come for you and reset aggro .. just be out of distance)

it will be a long fight but easily doable.