Suggested HP and phys def at lvl 90+

Bowlinbob - Lost City

Nrgy - Dreamweaver wrote: »

But than i guess you at 90+ you are suggesting wearing 90 armor unrefined with average citrine in it. Good suggestion tho ....
Nyway this is out of topic so amma let forum trolls take it from here.
Bye

what? im not suggesting anything, I posted my stats, said that 5k hp, and 5k phys def is impossible to achieve using 90 gear, unless hevily refined, or perfectly sharded.

Im using flawless gems and refines in everything to +4, and i dont have close to 5k hp or 5k phys def.

Im not sure if you dont understand english or you just missed my posts.

Not once was i suggesting averages..

Ill spell it out for u incase u cant understand me: Im asking you to show how you can have 5k hp AND 5k phys def without being LA, or heavily refined using gear below lvl95. Otherwise all ur posting is BS without proof.

Paramedic - Dreamweaver

i replied as 1st in this topic

but sure i love to troll too b:victory


anyway,

it is same like somebody wud ask me what stats he shud have for 70s and i wud tell him my stats with 77 mold armor+gloves and 79 mold weapon (still 7x right?)

it is just misleading..


if u remember stats/gear from 90lvl it wud be nice if u post that info with some note (if it was good or bad or what stat was lacking)

tho ur previous post may be helpful but -yeah- when we all hit 95..

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

Paramedic - Dreamweaver wrote: »

i replied as 1st in this topic

but sure i love to troll too b:victory

anyway,

it is same like somebody wud ask me what stats he shud have for 70s and i wud tell him my stats with 77 mold armor+gloves and 79 mold weapon (still 7x right?)

it is just misleading..

if u remember stats/gear from 90lvl it wud be nice if u post that info with some note (if it was good or bad or what stat was lacking)

tho ur previous post may be helpful but -yeah- when we all hit 95..

the OP wanted to know the recommended HP/phys def at the level 90+, not just stop at the lvl 90. So that includes all convos and info within that genre. The only problem is the pple openly giving the info are already well above 90+, and in return the ones near lv90, some of them are rather sore for whatever reason and trying to justify that this thread was directed at lv90 gear only, at the same time not even posting useful info but focusing more on demeaning other posters.

Bowlinbob - Lost City

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

the OP wanted to know the recommended HP/phys def at the level 90+, not just stop at the lvl 90. So that includes all convos and info within that genre. The only problem is the pple openly giving the info are already well above 90+, and in return the ones near lv90, some of them are rather sore for whatever reason and trying to justify that this thread was directed at lv90 gear only, at the same time not even posting useful info but focusing more on demeaning other posters.

Nrgy - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Try a good ballance.
Anything under 5kHp unbuffed, 5kpdef (self buffed) for TW,PvP is too low at lvl90+.

by him saying that anything under 5k at "90+" meaning ANY level 90 or over is too low, is bs. Maybe he meant 95+ but then he should have said that. By him saying 90+ instead of 95+ is misleading to the 90-94 people.

edit: besides, based on the OPs avatar (lvl 88) it would only be logical to assume hes wondering about his 90 gear... not 95.

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »

what? im not suggesting anything, I posted my stats, said that 5k hp, and 5k phys def is impossible to achieve using 90 gear, unless hevily refined, or perfectly sharded.

Im using flawless gems and refines in everything to +4, and i dont have close to 5k hp or 5k phys def.

Im not sure if you dont understand english or you just missed my posts.

Not once was i suggesting averages..

Ill spell it out for u incase u cant understand me: Im asking you to show how you can have 5k hp AND 5k phys def without being LA, or heavily refined using gear below lvl95. Otherwise all ur posting is BS without proof.

I would assume hes a mix balance of perfect pdef garnet and citrines with gear about +7 for lv90. His stats are near identical to mine expect for the fact that i leaned toward more pdef (so i had less hp and more pdef than he does atm). Its a set up i wouldnt personally recommend at lv90 due to the amount you spend, and still have to spend for lv99 gear LATER since 90 isnt endgame finals, but it is possible.

RedsRose - Lost City

Ahira - Lost City wrote: »

You've used the grade 13 event helm/boots instead of the grade 14. b:chuckle

b:surrender

See....I said something was off b:chuckle

Paramedic - Dreamweaver

@Deceptistar

what bob said

+ im sure everyone appreciate additional info from 95+ or even 100+ (it may be useful eventually) but some of them could stress that thy are 95+ using event/lunar/warsong/or whatever stuff not obtainable at 90lvl..

and btw for sake of this topic im just glad that this game has 105 cap.. b:chuckle

Ahira - Lost City

Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »

<- has all gear refined to +4 pretty much except my belt
weapon +7
mixture of flawless garnets and citrines in all my gear, mostly garnets

I cant for the love of god see how the hell u guys have that many stats without cashshopping up the wazoo

with cleric buffs i have aprox
7100-8000 magic atk
4100 hp
9k-10k mag def
3100 phys def

base build is:
50 vit
42 str
5 dex
rest mag

Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »

what? im not suggesting anything, I posted my stats, said that 5k hp, and 5k phys def is impossible to achieve using 90 gear, unless hevily refined, or perfectly sharded.

Im using flawless gems and refines in everything to +4, and i dont have close to 5k hp or 5k phys def.

Im not sure if you dont understand english or you just missed my posts.

Not once was i suggesting averages..

Ill spell it out for u incase u cant understand me: Im asking you to show how you can have 5k hp AND 5k phys def without being LA, or heavily refined using gear below lvl95. Otherwise all ur posting is BS without proof.

Its kind of hard to compare what some ppl are posting to what the OP was actually asking. There can be quite a difference between 90+ and 95+ in terms of gear being used.

IMO at 90 with HH90 and typical accessories you'd normally be aiming for ~5k HP with phys ~ 4k with reasonable refine/sharding.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with your build Bob. Shift some magic points to vit- change HP to phys shards and +5 refine everything and you'd probably have 5k hp / 4k phys! ^^

Bowlinbob - Lost City

Ahira - Lost City wrote: »

Its kind of hard to compare what some ppl are posting to what the OP was actually asking. There can be quite a difference between 90+ and 95+ in terms of gear being used.

IMO at 90 with HH90 and typical accessories you'd normally be aiming for ~5k HP with phys ~ 4k with reasonable refine/sharding.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with your build Bob. Shift some magic points to vit- change HP to phys shards and +5 refine everything and you'd probably have 5k hp / 4k phys! ^^

dats why i luffz j00 been thinking about adding more vit to reach 5k hp tbh, but i like my damage >: id have to calculate how much less pvp damage i do with 100 or so less mag.

Aydamn - Lost City

Nrgy - Dreamweaver wrote: »

But than i guess you at 90+ you are suggesting wearing 90 armor unrefined with average citrine in it. Good suggestion tho ....
Nyway this is out of topic so amma let forum trolls take it from here.
Bye

I'm not sure if this is some bizarre form of meta-trolling or if you don't understand that not everyone is as rich as you. I have full-immaculated 90 gear all +4/5 and I have nowhere near as much pdef as you. The only reason my stats are as high as they are is because my cape is op (for a non-factor anyway).


…btw to the OP: listen to Ahira, she has it bang on imo. It hurts me inside to sacrifice matk for hp though b:surrender

LaTrappe - Lost City

Selfbuffed: Over 10k HP
Over 8k Pdef
Over 11k Mdef
Over 10k Matk
Do I win the game?

Nelae - Heavens Tear

LaTrappe - Lost City wrote: »

Selfbuffed: Over 10k HP
Over 8k Pdef
Over 11k Mdef
Over 10k Matk
Do I win the game?

b:chuckleb:chuckle
Yup probably

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

LaTrappe - Lost City wrote: »

Selfbuffed: Over 10k HP
Over 8k Pdef
Over 11k Mdef
Over 10k Matk
Do I win the game?

You lean more towards HP, but this seems to be all above +7 refines?

LaTrappe - Lost City

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

You lean more towards HP, but this seems to be all above +7 refines?

Maybe b:chuckle

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

LaTrappe - Lost City wrote: »

Maybe b:chuckle

Any setup thats actually useful for other members? cause mine and roses stats can be done with mirages and tienkangs very easily with half cost of refines, we're not just boasting stats

Bowlinbob - Lost City

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

Any setup thats actually useful for other members? cause mine and roses stats can be done with mirages and tienkangs very easily with half cost of refines, we're not just boasting stats

ive spied on his gear many times, i cant believe i cant remember x-x

Ahira - Lost City

Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »

ive spied on his gear many times, i cant believe i cant remember x-x

GG! b:beatenup

His setup isnt that out of the ordinary but the gems + refinements are really good! =X

The 8k phys on self buff is a nice level (i'm trying to aim for that as well). When fully buffed you'll have ~parity between magic and physical defence.

*jealous* T_T