QQ terms :(

Devil_Vergil - Lost City
Devil_Vergil - Lost City Posts: 224 Arc User
edited December 2009 in General Discussion
Yes this is a QQ thread so plz feel free to flame if u dont agree....cuz a good argument is just too hard for u. ;)

ANYWAYS....i was just curious why everyone is sooo damn stubborn to keep callin stuff by their old names?? I mean of course by now ive learned them all and I personally dont care, but when ur world chatting to try to sell stuff...dont u realize half the players dont know what the hell ur talking about??

Ex: its TT now..not HH, Guardian scrolls not dolls, RB now GV, and ESPECIALLY all the classes... WR=BM, WB=BARB, WF+veno...etc..EP=CLeric...etc

now i SUMWHAT understand because i will NEVER call a BH .. TH just cuz they changed that but still...ive only been playin a couple months and got to 76, and learned all these just from watching and asking people....

SO again i personally dont care at all but just realize when ur world chatting trying to get an "EP" for a BH...or trying to buy/sell "DOLLS" half the people dunno what ur talking about and ur only hurting ur chances of succeeding...

if your only talking to friends and vets of the game then...cool all good agree with me or disagree all u want...but its just a fact that there are TONS of people that are brand new or pretty much new to the game so this is a fact ;)

shiit one of my buddies (that i met IN the game) i had to explain him the difference between a BH and an FB.... so trust me noobs are out there

and btw the most IMPORTANT thing is..... MERRY CHRISTMAS!! b:bye
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  • Ceshiari - Sanctuary
    Ceshiari - Sanctuary Posts: 757 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Devil_Vergil - Lost City wrote: »
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    Because they are nubs who think they are L337 gamers.

    Or because they DID play PW MY or other versions that use the eastern terms, and they are just being stuck up pigs who shove their 'xp' in other people's faces, like its anything to brag about.

    What really grinds my gears though, is wth is this called Perfect World International if all the servers are based in America, and you dont have the option to switch base in-game language to your 1st language. Just call it Perfect World North America or something.
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  • Devil_Vergil - Lost City
    Devil_Vergil - Lost City Posts: 224 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    i never thought of that at all but ur definaltly right Ceshiari
  • Aadi - Lost City
    Aadi - Lost City Posts: 4,449 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I use HH ingame and TT on the forums. I use whatever's understood the best. Half the time I don't even use the term FB unless I'm 100% certain the person I'm talking to knows what it is, especially if I'm talking to newbies.

    Dolls were something else that was randomly changed for no discernable reason. "Dolls" is faster than "scrolls" (they're not called charms OP, if you're going to QQ about names at least use the right ones b:surrender), and to me "scrolls" are exp scrolls. If we go with the name of "charms" (although the word charm isn't in their name), charms to me are HP/MP charms.

    At least I don't hear ADC anymore and all that QQ from when the servers first opened. "QQ ADC IS A BETTER NAME" "QQ CHANGE IT BACK" /roll.

    When I say "HH squad" in my server, everyone that does TT knows what it is. But I've had 7x and 8x players ask me what TT is. Why would I insist on a name that people don't understand on my server? I honestly don't care which is "right" or which goes with which server. When the servers first opened and 75% of the people were transfers from PW-MY, I used the MY names. Now I use the MY names that people take for granted on my server, and the PWI names that people recognize.

    Of course, on the forums I always use the PWI names b:chuckle

    Funny how people rarely complain about the term FB when no one can even come up with a certain idea of what it means...
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  • Devil_Vergil - Lost City
    Devil_Vergil - Lost City Posts: 224 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    lol good work there aadi and ya trust me i know this...that was a typo , had too many things in my head lol

    that and ya i see what u mean about the "better name thing" kinda like they changed khatru pups name to coyote....

    and to me FB = tabs (call to duty) and ya thats one u always have to make sure so when people ask for help for a "FB" i always ask them to double check if they have tabs, and like i said i dont control the terms or names of things in this game, shiit i even use those "old" terms half the time.... ALL im tryin to say is people who world chat stuff selling / buying/ asking and pointing out that a good amount of people dont even know anything.

    And if ANYONE knew what HH was and not TT then that just means they dont pay attention to the game theyre playing...lol
  • Ceshiari - Sanctuary
    Ceshiari - Sanctuary Posts: 757 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Aadi - Lost City wrote: »
    I use HH ingame and TT on the forums. I use whatever's understood the best. Half the time I don't even use the term FB unless I'm 100% certain the person I'm talking to knows what it is, especially if I'm talking to newbies.

    Dolls were something else that was randomly changed for no discernable reason. "Dolls" is faster than "scrolls" (they're not called charms OP, if you're going to QQ about names at least use the right ones b:surrender), and to me "scrolls" are exp scrolls. If we go with the name of "charms" (although the word charm isn't in their name), charms to me are HP/MP charms.

    At least I don't hear ADC anymore and all that QQ from when the servers first opened. "QQ ADC IS A BETTER NAME" "QQ CHANGE IT BACK" /roll.

    When I say "HH squad" in my server, everyone that does TT knows what it is. But I've had 7x and 8x players ask me what TT is. Why would I insist on a name that people don't understand on my server? I honestly don't care which is "right" or which goes with which server. When the servers first opened and 75% of the people were transfers from PW-MY, I used the MY names. Now I use the MY names that people take for granted on my server, and the PWI names that people recognize.

    Of course, on the forums I always use the PWI names b:chuckle

    Funny how people rarely complain about the term FB when no one can even come up with a certain idea of what it means...

    Never did understand why they changed guardian angels to guardian scrolls. Religious purposes maybe? Seems rather....silly.

    And I recall reading something almost a year back, that fb stands for final boss...or something of that sort. Sometimes I say culti(enter level here), but then people confuse that with the cultivation quests leading up to the final instance.

    I play on other *cough* versions where HH, CV and ADC is commonly used, as well as other variations. But I dont bring it over to PWI, because that makes me just look like a pompous....you know what.
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  • Aadi - Lost City
    Aadi - Lost City Posts: 4,449 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Ceshiari - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Never did understand why they changed guardian angels to guardian scrolls. Religious purposes maybe? Seems rather....silly.

    And I recall reading something almost a year back, that fb stands for final boss...or something of that sort. Sometimes I say culti(enter level here), but then people confuse that with the cultivation quests leading up to the final instance.

    I play on other *cough* versions where HH, CV and ADC is commonly used, as well as other variations. But I dont bring it over to PWI, because that makes me just look like a pompous....you know what.

    You could use "Call of Duty: ____" for the name of the tabs. ;o I heard actually it means Fu Ben (or Fuben?), which is Chinese for dungeon.

    Everyone on my server uses at least HH. I used to use terms such as WB and EP when the servers came out and now I don't because most people use the International terms. b:chuckle
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  • Ceshiari - Sanctuary
    Ceshiari - Sanctuary Posts: 757 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Aadi - Lost City wrote: »
    You could use "Call of Duty: ____" for the name of the tabs. ;o I heard actually it means Fu Ben (or Fuben?), which is Chinese for dungeon.

    Everyone on my server uses at least HH. I used to use terms such as WB and EP when the servers came out and now I don't because most people use the International terms. b:chuckle

    Thats understandable, LC is the first server up and running, and many people who started on LC moved here from PW MY.....

    But really, a year down the road, no one should be using those terms if they have played this version for an extended period of time.
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  • Mr_Mokona - Lost City
    Mr_Mokona - Lost City Posts: 95 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Devil_Vergil - Lost City wrote: »

    now i SUMWHAT understand because i will NEVER call a BH .. TH just cuz they changed that but still...ive only been playin a couple months and got to 76, and learned all these just from watching and asking people....

    This...
    You and everyone else who have been doing BH's are gonna keep calling "treasure Hunt" or whatever it now is BH, because thats what you have gotten used to.
    But think of the new players, theres gonna be a point where thay ask what BH is, they will either accept that it used to called Bouny Hunter an also ise the term BH. Or call it by what some other people call it at the time...I wouldnt be supprised if people do start calling for TH's.

    When i started playing people used both terms for TT/HH an i learned what it was all about. I now use TT, but i used to use HH when most of my faction/friends used that term, as others have said its about what others will understand.
  • Devil_Vergil - Lost City
    Devil_Vergil - Lost City Posts: 224 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    FB DOES stand for fuben...which is ACTUALLY means stone tab...NOT DUNGEON...i know that 99% of people think it means dungeon cuz thats what they were told and it does make sense...but it relly actually means tabs...but calling it FBxx would imply everyone knows how to speak chinese.... but ya i call em FBs too SOMETIMES...and ive never seen that term or would EVER put into the game...thats just what people call it so that one IS easily learnable but sadly still wrong...but i still use it...

    Either way im glad u agree Cesh...and AAdi im not sayin ur a pompous arrogant *bleep* cuz ur not, ur pretty much excactly how i go about it when im actually playing..but MOST the people that use the terms ARE, i always use whats understood with the people im playing....all im stating is that its so annoying to see world chats and stuff but they are so "better than the noobs" that they dont even care 50% wont understand wth they talkin about....becuase to THEM thats what its called.....

    This isnt a ONE player playstation game.....its a community....so speak in a way THAT everyone understands...simple as that cmon now (none of this is directed at u AAdi) lol :)
  • Smobo - Heavens Tear
    Smobo - Heavens Tear Posts: 386 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    FB, HH, TT, FF, BH, TH, LA, HA all with a variaty of numbers thrown in there? None of these are in the help guide, and I can understand them getting really confusing, especially since some are chinese. I mean "WTB TT90LA 2150k" looks like some kind of serial code. b:chuckle
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  • Velarious - Heavens Tear
    Velarious - Heavens Tear Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    never thought i was away from the game for so long till the expansion came out that theres all these new 2 lettered abbreviations, i still used to the Fb/CoD, HH/TT,GV,CV,GV,FF, i no theres others now like this BH, but ive no idea what that means, any1 mind nameing the rest ive missed out and say what dungoen it means and also re-abbreviate the ones ive put down lol.
  • Brutally - Lost City
    Brutally - Lost City Posts: 63 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    /Shrug
    It's really that difficult to understand EP=Cleric, etc?
    If you don't like using the term "EP" then..don't?
    Some people say "supper". Others call it "dinner". But it still has the same meaning..
    Here at least. Maybe other areas vary?
    Meh.
  • Ceshiari - Sanctuary
    Ceshiari - Sanctuary Posts: 757 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Brutally - Lost City wrote: »
    /Shrug
    It's really that difficult to understand EP=Cleric, etc?
    If you don't like using the term "EP" then..don't?
    Some people say "supper". Others call it "dinner". But it still has the same meaning..
    Here at least. Maybe other areas vary?
    Meh.

    Yes, yes it is difficult to understand EP=Cleric....or any other thing that isnt even remotely close the the proper abbreviation of the ENGLISH name of the class b:chuckle
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  • Devil_Vergil - Lost City
    Devil_Vergil - Lost City Posts: 224 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    all im saying is that someone who never played the game back when pretty much all classes had diferent names...YES it is that hard to understand....i mean its CALLED a cleric...i know EP means elven priest (or whatever)...but u ask any NEW person that u need an "EP" they go through ALLLL the classes and realize HEY that doesnt even abbriate ANY of the classes....maybe he wants sum kind of item....Brutally u completly missed my point....this has nothing to do with u or ur friends that have been callin clerics "EPs" for yrs....it has to do with new players to the game...and NO they DONT know that EP means cleric....yes im sure MOST do and thats fine...including me i know pretty much all the old terms...so once AGAIN all im saying is realize that some people a good amount have NO IDEA what u are saying...thats all

    and yes ill always call it BH....until i see that THE MAJORITY have started callin it TH because of name change...then i will to....cuz its not about what I THINK it should be called or what it used to be called....but i want people to understand what im talking about....so if a friend asks me what im doing ill say "oh just finishin up my BH" but if im looking for random strangers for a party or anything else i would call it TH

    edit: outta curiosity the one thing i never did learn was, what does "FF" mean or stand for?? thank u
  • Darksylph - Heavens Tear
    Darksylph - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,816 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Ceshiari - Sanctuary wrote: »
    What really grinds my gears though, is wth is this called Perfect World International if all the servers are based in America, and you dont have the option to switch base in-game language to your 1st language. Just call it Perfect World North America or something.

    I'm sorry but this assumption grinds my gears.

    (1) International is a-kin to abroad. When someone in 1 country does something for another country it is international. This is International, not Global. If it was called Perfect World Global, you'd have a point.

    (2) The reason all other versions have a locale attached is because they are licensed version of the games. PW-MY, PW-MS, PW-PH, etc etc, all pay Beijing Perfect World for the individual patches, bug fixes take ages because it means shelling out money for minute patches. PWI on the other hand, is owned by PWE (E for Entertainment) which is a wholly owned subsidiary of Beijing Perfect World. PWI is directly owned by the China corporation. As such, China, is going Abroad, or International, to make a Perfect World for North America. If you go to their home page, it literally says in the mission statement "to give the people of North America an unparalleled gaming experience".
  • Darksylph - Heavens Tear
    Darksylph - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,816 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Brutally - Lost City wrote: »
    /Shrug
    It's really that difficult to understand EP=Cleric, etc?
    If you don't like using the term "EP" then..don't?
    Some people say "supper". Others call it "dinner". But it still has the same meaning..
    Here at least. Maybe other areas vary?
    Meh.

    Whats worse is how people from the PvP servers come to the forums and expect everyone to know what they're talking about. I have noticed that Lost City & Harshlands predominantly use those abbreviations more then the other servers. There was a topic about "GV" not long ago and guess what, more chimed in on the thread asking "What's GV?" then anyone who actually had answers. Sorry to burst your bubble but many many dont know the old PW-MY terms.

    Its Rebith or Valley of Reciprosity, not Godless Valley.
    Its Lunar Glade, not Crescent Valley
    Its Twilight Temple, not Holy Halls of Dusk
    Its Cleric, Archer, Barbarian, Venomancer, Blademaster, and Wizard
    not Elven Preist, Elven Archer, Werebeast, Werefox, Warrior, and Mage.

    Get used to it, if you travelled to a new country you wouldnt use your old language and expect everyone to understand would you? Time to use a new PW language also, one that everyone playing understands.

    (sorry for double post, already posted & then saw another post that grinded my gears. b:surrender)
  • Ceshiari - Sanctuary
    Ceshiari - Sanctuary Posts: 757 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Darksylph - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I'm sorry but this assumption grinds my gears.

    (1) International is a-kin to abroad. When someone in 1 country does something for another country it is international. This is International, not Global. If it was called Perfect World Global, you'd have a point.

    (2) The reason all other versions have a locale attached is because they are licensed version of the games. PW-MY, PW-MS, PW-PH, etc etc, all pay Beijing Perfect World for the individual patches, bug fixes take ages because it means shelling out money for minute patches. PWI on the other hand, is owned by PWE (E for Entertainment) which is a wholly owned subsidiary of Beijing Perfect World. PWI is directly owned by the China corporation. As such, China, is going Abroad, or International, to make a Perfect World for North America. If you go to their home page, it literally says in the mission statement "to give the people of North America an unparalleled gaming experience".

    I stand corrected then. I still dont think it makes much sense, its very frustrating for our Euro friends who play this version. Seeing as how America is a melting pot of races/languages/lifestyles, I still dont understand how it isnt given more options for language.
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  • _Pale - Sanctuary
    _Pale - Sanctuary Posts: 210 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Darksylph - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I'm sorry but this assumption grinds my gears.

    (1) International is a-kin to abroad. When someone in 1 country does something for another country it is international. This is International, not Global. If it was called Perfect World Global, you'd have a point.

    Lots of people from Europe too, I'm guessing 40-50% at least?
    Just because they prefer to speak english in-game doesn't necessarily mean they are American. The server might be based in the US, but PW international kind of implies it is not aimed solely at the American market. You see the difference as soon as TW times change, all the US players go to sleep and the European players mostly get a chance to play. Or when you look at general chat and see a conversation that is obviously not in English.
    Many players who speak only Spanish or suddenly start a converstion in German or Dutch, which shows that the player base is really not just North- American, despite the server location.

    I think it's nice that PWI is international in the sense that it offers the opportunity for players from all countries to participate in events and provide time slots that make this possible. It makes bussiness sense too, since I already saw some people start private servers in some European countries, which I can't imagine to be in following with the ToS. Giving other people the possibility to fully participate on PWI servers will for the most part stop the setup or growth of private servers.

    EDIT: I'm sorry, not trying to derail. Yes, there should be some sort of general accepted terms to use so everyone knows what you are talking about. But if people choose not to, then it's their own fault if they don't get what they want.
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  • bawksy
    bawksy Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Ceshiari - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Yes, yes it is difficult to understand EP=Cleric....or any other thing that isnt even remotely close the the proper abbreviation of the ENGLISH name of the class b:chuckle

    EP= Elf Priest

    That must be french
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  • Ceshiari - Sanctuary
    Ceshiari - Sanctuary Posts: 757 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    bawksy wrote: »
    EP= Elf Priest

    That must be french

    And when did PWI call the elf healers elf priests? I mustve missed that, considering I played a cleric for a full year up to level 95. I believe 'elf priest' comes from another MMO or two....not this one.
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  • Pressa - Heavens Tear
    Pressa - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,287 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Lol why does it even matter? Someone understands it or if they are curious about they ask its not hard duh.

    Thats just being anal trying to get everyone to refer to something the same way . Keep calling it what you want to call it and people will call it what they want to call it its not a matter of understanding its a matter of you just wanting your way. b:surrender cause thats what it boils down to.

    btw FF is Forgotten Frost covered lands

    b:thanks And I have noticed that fb thing and have been trying to think of a new thing to call it and hope I can make it catch as GMs have stated in posts they don't really like that fb transfered over to this one it makes them sad.
    b:shutup But to date I have yet to find a better thing to call them other then fbs.
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