Immoral screen art

FoxRunning - Heavens Tear
FoxRunning - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,048 Arc User
edited December 2009 in General Discussion
(a copy of a letter to PWD, regarding the indecent, immoral new transisiton screen art:)
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Dear PWD,

My family of six (4 children) has played all your games now for over a year, and dearly love them. Perfect World has been a source of fun, socializing, family squads to do various FBs and other ingame jobs. Our children who play (ages 18 down to 15, with an avid 13 year old who cant wait to be allowed to join in the fun), take their characters into the real world and the life skills they learn ingame have been of help to them in daily life, as well as friendly teasing among us.

You can well imagine how eagerly we all waited for the new expansion, though my husband and I told the children they would have to wait until I had examined the new characters and update. We were concerned about the artwork we were seeing, and the very adult nature of it. Wednesday night, when the patch was finished, I was on, and though the characters seem fine, we are shocked and appalled by the transition screen artwork. Though some of the pictures are fine, the female pictures are vulgar, and reprehensible. The costuming and posing are as sex based as the pinups and Vargas girls of WW2.

This is **not** appropriate for in a game targeted at teens, to say the least. And as this game is played by children as young as 9 years of age (yes, this is a fact that I can prove, as this is a player one of my children has met and befriended), these pictures must be removed and replaced with something less sexual and better dressed. My husband and I are not permitting our children to play until this issue is resolved.

The solution is very simple: remove the vulgar artwork, and replace it with either older pictures, or have new ones made with characters in more realistic, ingame type poses and clothing such as players will be able to buy in the future, such as was done with the Feather Embrace (though that too was too sensual). By dressing the characters in outfits that will be one day available in the cash shop, you are preadvertising something, which will cover the cost of replacing the offensive artwork.

Please, do take this seriously- I am quite sure my husband and I are not the only parents who are deeply offended by the art, and who wish it removed. And our children anxiously await the chance to come and play the new characters, as do I.

Gail Nichols
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  • Teh_fishey - Dreamweaver
    Teh_fishey - Dreamweaver Posts: 552 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Screen art is fine. 18? Really? A couple 7th graders where I come from have already "done it".
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  • Sora_Kaiyou - Dreamweaver
    Sora_Kaiyou - Dreamweaver Posts: 66 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    It would be best if you never visit Las Vegas.
  • Pot_Head - Harshlands
    Pot_Head - Harshlands Posts: 701 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    "Ages 18 down to 15"
    lol @ that, one is a adult who can't look at naked woman.b:chuckle
  • Mavado - Harshlands
    Mavado - Harshlands Posts: 728 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Ha....ha...ha....
    >_< I'm a wizard in disguise... you know like the old cartoon... except with less robots and more fire/ice/rocks....
  • hemoglobin
    hemoglobin Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    i agree 100%!
  • Kephras - Heavens Tear
    Kephras - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    "LOL"?
    Seriously, while I commend your efforts to protect your children's innocence, PWI (and indeed, the PW franchise) has sorta objectified female anatomy from the beginning. FFS, you're 70+, you know what the light and heavy armor looks like on ladies. Or even if we wanna scroll way, way back - the cleavage the Necromancer & Mystique robes show? Or the Plumed Embrace fashion (I assume it's the same one you mention in your letter), that barely 'covers the details' so to speak. And indeed, I've noticed MOST of the recent fashion releases make the Minxxy skirt look positively prudish in comparison.

    Case In Point.
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    Note that the plumed top actually shows the skin 'perma-undies' texture under the breast, because the garment itself is so revealing.

    If you're going to write PWI about 'bad decisions', at least do so on an issue that impacts gameplay. This is the kind of letter they print out and pass around the office for laughs during lunch.
  • HikariHinata - Heavens Tear
    HikariHinata - Heavens Tear Posts: 104 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Somehow, I only saw loading screen with barbarians in it ^^'


    Maybe it's just me that was lucky though ^ ^;


    *goes back to eat cookies*
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  • Teh_fishey - Dreamweaver
    Teh_fishey - Dreamweaver Posts: 552 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    hemoglobin wrote: »
    i agree 100%!

    O.o who do you agree with?

    Oh also let me say something.... I've realized that most of these replies have been kinda mean towards you and your beliefs. For all I know you could have AIDs or maybe you might hate your life, or your job. Regardless of your issue FoxRunning, QQ less... And if you really have an issue with the loading screen then you have obviously not met me.

    EDIT: OOOOOH I has an idea to actually help you. Just don't let your teenage/adult "kids" see the loading screen, load it up for them.
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  • Nukesrus - Harshlands
    Nukesrus - Harshlands Posts: 665 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Good grief, guys. Relax. Just cause the screens don't bother you or me, doesn't mean others can't find them offensive.


    Fox, I'm working on a solution for you. I'll PM you if I can get it working like I think it will. I'm attempting to remove the screens themselves so they can't be loaded.
  • hemoglobin
    hemoglobin Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    O.o who do you agree with?

    Oh also let me say something.... I've realized that most of these replies have been kinda mean towards you and your beliefs. For all I know you could have AIDs or maybe you might hate your life, or your job. Regardless of your issue FoxRunning, QQ less... And if you really have an issue with the loading screen then you have obviously not met me.

    EDIT: OOOOOH I has an idea to actually help you. Just don't let your teenage/adult "kids" see the loading screen, load it up for them.

    i agree with the OP
  • HikariHinata - Heavens Tear
    HikariHinata - Heavens Tear Posts: 104 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Good grief, guys. Relax. Just cause the screens don't bother you or me, doesn't mean others can't find them offensive.


    Fox, I'm working on a solution for you. I'll PM you if I can get it working like I think it will. I'm attempting to remove the screens themselves so they can't be loaded.

    Not that I wouldn't like to remove stupid loadin screen, but depending what you want to do, but I think you know that playing with game files "is a bannable offence" b:surrender
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  • Nukesrus - Harshlands
    Nukesrus - Harshlands Posts: 665 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I'm not actually "editing" anything. :P
  • HikariHinata - Heavens Tear
    HikariHinata - Heavens Tear Posts: 104 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I don,t know if they would think the same thing though :(
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  • Nukesrus - Harshlands
    Nukesrus - Harshlands Posts: 665 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I don,t know if they would think the same thing though :(

    I don't know. I don't think they'd rather lose a player than have someone take out offensive loading screens, but who knows?
  • Murloc/ - Heavens Tear
    Murloc/ - Heavens Tear Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    tbh, I really hope this this is just a very over-thought joke... Seriously?

    A game that has language filters built in and auto-enabled...
    A game in which people use very vulgar ways over WC on a CONSTANT basis across all servers...
    A game that idolizes the typical over-exadgerated hourglass-figure woman with a huge bust, tiny waist, and large hips... oh, all of these being VERY visable in all of the most popular female fashion, as well as some armors...
    A game in which people berate and belittle eachother on a constant basis in WC, Faction Chat, and Common Chat...

    Now I'm not a parent mind you, but I DO have a younger brother who I try to protect and do right by as any good brother should, and although he is only 15 years old, and becoming more of a man every day instead of my little bro, I trust that he has the sense of mind to see these "provocitive images" on loading screens and such, and understand that they are just art, and nothing more. Wrether or not the art is designed to reel in drooling pubecent boys is another story, but none the less; I trust him to be intellegent enough to know that those vulgar people are just ignorant, and that those images are nothing more then a picture drawn by people, not real, and not intended to be a representation of reality.

    My point is this:

    Children learn by the example that is set for them by the people they look up to, and they do understand the differance between reality and fantasy.

    I wouldn't expect my brother to be come a pervert at a young age from playing this game any more then I'd expect from him seeing the Venus de Milo or the Statue of David.
  • HikariHinata - Heavens Tear
    HikariHinata - Heavens Tear Posts: 104 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I'm not actually "editing" anything. :P
    I don't know. I don't think they'd rather lose a player than have someone take out offensive loading screens, but who knows?



    That probably depend of how much you spend on the game... (But well.. that,s just an opinion I'm not accusing anyone)
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  • hemoglobin
    hemoglobin Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I don't know. I don't think they'd rather lose a player than have someone take out offensive loading screens, but who knows?

    lose 5 players? that could acually be alot of money
  • LloydAsplund - Sanctuary
    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary Posts: 3,899 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Well, the game is generally aimed towards 16+ teens to young adults. Specifically males in general (most games are). And.. the thing is, sex sells.
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  • HikariHinata - Heavens Tear
    HikariHinata - Heavens Tear Posts: 104 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    hemoglobin wrote: »
    lose 5 players? that could acually be alot of money


    Depend if in those 5 players anyone has spent thousand of money in the game. When you see those peoples with full even armors +10 in citrine gem with their warsoul weapon and their level 80 tideborn...
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  • SnuggleWolf - Harshlands
    SnuggleWolf - Harshlands Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    i lol at this iv seen every loading screen and if the "offensive ones" she is talking about are the mermaid tideborn who are basicly half naked HELLO they are mermaids. you want them to wear full outfit under water with a tail? have u let ur kids see the little mermaid? more then half that movie Ariel is wearing a shell bra and nothing else CAUSE SHE HAS A TAIL. lol over protective parents are funny b:chuckle
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  • Pot_Head - Harshlands
    Pot_Head - Harshlands Posts: 701 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Gm's are going to have a good laugh on Monday.b:chuckle
  • Dire_Straits - Raging Tide
    Dire_Straits - Raging Tide Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Hi Foxrunning, morals depend on the society we're born / raised in. One looks down on others trying to change and ridicule it.
    Although many credit games having influence on children, which is rarely the case. A child is influenced and sees the world depending on how its raised. Your children are mature enough to give them some credit, otherwise just don't let them play.
    The only danger PWI will have on your family is by turning them into forum trolls, the likes you see above.
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  • Pot_Head - Harshlands
    Pot_Head - Harshlands Posts: 701 Arc User
    edited December 2009

    The only danger PWI will have on your family is by turning them into forum trolls, the likes you see above.
    ~Poorest person on PWIb:sad

    gtfo this shet is nothing but a laugh to most becaz it's a idiotic thread!b:bye
  • Airyll - Dreamweaver
    Airyll - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,882 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Last I checked, Perfect World wasn't for children under 15 or so years old anyway. But this doesn't mean that people don't let children play MMORPGs. My little brother is 8 years old and plays Shaiya every day.

    This isn't about what we find offensive. The loading screen images are as 'sexually themed' as the female fashion. Have you seen the bikini fashion set? Yes, of course you have. I'm sorry to tell you that it's as revealing as those loading screen images are - and people mix and match that fash and other such revealing 'pixel clothing' everywhere.

    If you are offended, by all means, be offended. But PWE have those images for a reason, much like they have all that fash for a reason. Each can be seen as offensive as the next.

    Your letter will do nothing but let some people know that you are unhappy. They will not change anything for one single letter. And this aside, if you have not complained at how revealing and sexually-orientated fashion can be, I don't see why you suddenly have such a problem. Just because the women on the loading screen are a few times bigger perhaps?
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  • Dire_Straits - Raging Tide
    Dire_Straits - Raging Tide Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    gtfo this shet is nothing but a laugh to most becaz it's a idiotic thread!b:bye
    That's why I replied to the one who found the situation serious enough. There are many kinds of people with different views here. You don't have to respect them, that doesn't mean you have to ridicule them. Common courtesy is hard enough to find, lest you deny it here too.
  • hemoglobin
    hemoglobin Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    gtfo this shet is nothing but a laugh to most becaz it's a idiotic thread!b:bye

    you pothead, are exactly what the OP doesnt want her children to become
  • Saishoni - Sanctuary
    Saishoni - Sanctuary Posts: 65 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Buncha Psycho religious fearful bulldroppings from FoxRunning her mouth off.

    Yo Fox, keep your prudish uptight psycho beliefs to yourself. Seriously. Take your uptight, anal, fearful self and quit. Your type isn't wanted or needed here. Your fear of the human body is comic at best, idiotic at worst.

    I bet your the type that teaches your kids that sex is a sin and they are damned to Hell for having normal thoughts and curiosity about human sexuality ain't ya?

    Take the stick out of your **** and stop trying to force your narrow, fearful psychotic beliefs and fears on others. Go away, Don't come back. Better yet, just do the world a favor and kill yourself, your God is waiting for you with open arms.. hurry before you miss him.

    fracking Psycho idiot.

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  • Pot_Head - Harshlands
    Pot_Head - Harshlands Posts: 701 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    hemoglobin wrote: »
    you pothead, are exactly what the OP doesnt want her children to become

    lol you mean a puss.y irl who wont every see one either?
  • Vixe - Heavens Tear
    Vixe - Heavens Tear Posts: 419 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    That's why I replied to the one who found the situation serious enough. There are many kinds of people with different views here. You don't have to respect them, that doesn't mean you have to ridicule them. Common courtesy is hard enough to find, lest you deny it here too.

    You just got my complete respect there, and I agree with you 100%. There are people here with different opinions on the subject, and it's good to have a mature discussion about it, rather than demeaning ourselves with name-calling and 'stop QQ-ing' comments.
  • Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear
    Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear Posts: 798 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    ...Prude. b:bye
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