Barbs can't DD? Says who?! See this!

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  • CornHilario - Heavens Tear
    CornHilario - Heavens Tear Posts: 647 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    lol i have tried making a build to do what u are doing right now. i got everything set based on the pic: the spark damage, the crit, but i am missing one thing (if u are willing to share with us)...

    how do u get ur attack rate so stupefyingly high?! b:shockedb:shockedb:shocked
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  • Stickygreen - Heavens Tear
    Stickygreen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,158 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    im assuming by solo TT2-3 you literally meant, its on solo mode, not squad?
    Less QQ more Pew Pewb:thanks

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  • J_Balt - Heavens Tear
    J_Balt - Heavens Tear Posts: 96 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    CornHilario - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    lol i have tried making a build to do what u are doing right now. i got everything set based on the pic: the spark damage, the crit, but i am missing one thing (if u are willing to share with us)...

    how do u get ur attack rate so stupefyingly high?! b:shockedb:shockedb:shocked

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  • Filet - Heavens Tear
    Filet - Heavens Tear Posts: 414 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    SteelStar - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Hey, wolf every since the epic fail 1v1 you've changed my stats for life. lol
    Thanks for all the advice and help in my transformation! b:thanks

    There is nothing cooler than a barb with more accuracy than a archer, just as much evasion as a bm with much more hp than either and a more powerful blow! b:cool

    I am proof, I was there! Its pretty amazing! I've never seen anything like it from a barb!

    Evasion on bm should be more? But anyway very interesting build. damage output should be around the same for both barbs+bm assuming both self buffed. However
    PvE- fist barb is better
    PvP- fist bm is better
    In PvE the extra hp and ability to turtle is much more useful for bosses
    In PvP bms ability to stun much more effectively lets them use their insane dps more
  • rinuruc
    rinuruc Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Wolfgore - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    As promised a video of TT 2-1 solo.
    Well the bosses are like regular mobs in here, it takes about half time to do em though the distance between em is the same so it was like 3 minutes faster than 2-3. It could have been a bit faster if i had full sparks when i reached last boss b:chuckle

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDe4_Ypr8CU

    And heres a bonus pic, stats while sparked with claws b:victory

    http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/7118/sparkedstats.jpg

    any odds on doing this for the squadmode too???
  • Wolfgore - Heavens Tear
    Wolfgore - Heavens Tear Posts: 293 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    rinuruc wrote: »
    any odds on doing this for the squadmode too???

    Sure, Squad mode should be fun BUT i'll need a cleric to heal me. Bosses damage and boss HP in squad mode are a lot higher.

    I'll try it and post the video :)
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  • Wolfgore - Heavens Tear
    Wolfgore - Heavens Tear Posts: 293 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    b:pleased

    Ok, here i got a World Boss xD
    Minion of Death, 2 clerics lvl89 and lvl96 to heal, actually took 30minutes.
    This video is in 3x Fast forward, enjoy!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0zOEAhgB7Q

    And a video of Belial b:victory
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBjyo5D__LE
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  • CornHilario - Heavens Tear
    CornHilario - Heavens Tear Posts: 647 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    lol its funny when their carcass starts spilling out numbers after they die; the damage is dealt so fast it builds up
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  • zabuzamumochi
    zabuzamumochi Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I got lookin and found a neat little trick.Demon Bestial Onslaught gives +35% for 6 secs.Since u can assign weps to quick slots the norm form can use demon spark with an axe-->Hit demon onslaught-->swap to fists-->norm attack-->repeat. this will give them around 65% crit for 6 secs.Only downside is slightly less time in demon spark due to cast of onslaught.(P.S. I am not a fist barb nor demon lvl so if some one could test this strategy i would appreciate it)

    Plus assuming they are self buffed a demon barb builds chi faster from beast kings inspiration allowing him to spark more often.

    (plz correct me if i made a mistake)
  • Wolfgore - Heavens Tear
    Wolfgore - Heavens Tear Posts: 293 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    zabuzamumochi wrote: »
    I got lookin and found a neat little trick.Demon Bestial Onslaught gives +35% for 6 secs.Since u can assign weps to quick slots the norm form can use demon spark with an axe-->Hit demon onslaught-->swap to fists-->norm attack-->repeat. this will give them around 65% crit for 6 secs.Only downside is slightly less time in demon spark due to cast of onslaught.(P.S. I am not a fist barb nor demon lvl so if some one could test this strategy i would appreciate it)

    Plus assuming they are self buffed a demon barb builds chi faster from beast kings inspiration allowing him to spark more often.

    (plz correct me if i made a mistake)

    No, any skill after spark is a great delay at the output damage. If you consider my attack rate is 5/sec losing 3 secs to cast beastial = 3x5 attacks. So 15 more attacks > The critical for 6 secs by beastial.

    As for the chi, yes barbs build chi faster but not thanks to Kings Inspiration but from Demon Beastial Rage :)
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  • zabuzamumochi
    zabuzamumochi Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Wolfgore - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    No, any skill after spark is a great delay at the output damage. If you consider my attack rate is 5/sec losing 3 secs to cast beastial = 3x5 attacks. So 15 more attacks > The critical for 6 secs by beastial.

    As for the chi, yes barbs build chi faster but not thanks to Kings Inspiration but from Demon Beastial Rage :)

    Ok i see point on skill delays.Thanks for the insight on that one.
    BUT on beast kings inspiration. From pw calc(used by all)
    Skill level Demon
    Necessary level of Player: 92
    A great growl grants oneself and nearby squad members an 35% increase in max hit points. Effect lasts 30 minutes.
    Demon version lets affected heros gain 50% more Chi.

    Bestial rage helps alot to though
  • Wolfgore - Heavens Tear
    Wolfgore - Heavens Tear Posts: 293 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    zabuzamumochi wrote: »
    Ok i see point on skill delays.Thanks for the insight on that one.
    BUT on beast kings inspiration. From pw calc(used by all)
    Skill level Demon
    Necessary level of Player: 92
    A great growl grants oneself and nearby squad members an 35% increase in max hit points. Effect lasts 30 minutes.
    Demon version lets affected heros gain 50% more Chi.

    Bestial rage helps alot to though

    b:pleased I got the skill already, so lemme tell you how it works :)

    It doesnt work as advertised, sad but true. It actually gives you some more chi the time you cast the skill, and a bit less chi at your squad members, but thats all. You still gain normal chi by hitting or getting hit by a mob or player.
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  • CornHilario - Heavens Tear
    CornHilario - Heavens Tear Posts: 647 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Wolfgore - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    b:pleased I got the skill already, so lemme tell you how it works :)

    It doesnt work as advertised, sad but true. It actually gives you some more chi the time you cast the skill, and a bit less chi at your squad members, but thats all. You still gain normal chi by hitting or getting hit by a mob or player.

    i heard casting demon inspiration gives 40 chi? can u check?
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  • Stickygreen - Heavens Tear
    Stickygreen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,158 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    demon inspiration gives you 35 chi
    Less QQ more Pew Pewb:thanks

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  • Lord_rein - Sanctuary
    Lord_rein - Sanctuary Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    holy ****!thats awsomeb:dirty

    can you please tell me your dex and str without arm?
    i wanna rock like that toob:cry
  • fobeks
    fobeks Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    The build is only viable if you have the money and/or a pro guild. The event cape and tome is needed for 5.0 in Fury, plus you need Ashura and Lionheart gear which is all in 3-2, 3-3 then the Claws themselves either from event packs or farming CV (lol). Not to mention the high refines needed to make up for the Vit points used in Dex, and on the Claws themselves.

    Sick build tho, props!
  • CornHilario - Heavens Tear
    CornHilario - Heavens Tear Posts: 647 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Stickygreen - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    demon inspiration gives you 35 chi

    bleh close enough. still good b:victory
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  • Ulfhednar - Heavens Tear
    Ulfhednar - Heavens Tear Posts: 372 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    wolfgore your hax XP

    nice though i kinda want to do something similar but wont work as well with fists/claws because i am sage and i don't have the attack speed increase from demon spark, but i can use genie skills and apoth items if needed >:)
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  • Damage - Dreamweaver
    Damage - Dreamweaver Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Question b:surrender

    How the F... you hit 5 times a sec b:shocked

    Also what stats you got? :3
  • Bladespelll - Heavens Tear
    Bladespelll - Heavens Tear Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Damage - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Question b:surrender

    How the F... you hit 5 times a sec b:shocked

    Also what stats you got? :3

    Well i believe he said that he sped it up 3x or something, and he's using claws which are the fastest weapon.

    Also very nice work, i have thought long and heard about which path i should take and i'm still deciding. I have two barbs, this one and a lvl 7 i made a week ago. Any suggestions?
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  • __Hysteria__ - Lost City
    __Hysteria__ - Lost City Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    damn this build is sick, id actually play a barb if i knew how to make one like this haha
  • Themax - Heavens Tear
    Themax - Heavens Tear Posts: 230 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    This does not look like 2-3.

    Feng stands in totally different room in 2-3.

    Nevertheless , very impressive.
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  • Ulfhednar - Heavens Tear
    Ulfhednar - Heavens Tear Posts: 372 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    its solo mode themax not squad mode
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  • Themax - Heavens Tear
    Themax - Heavens Tear Posts: 230 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Oh, makes sense then. b:victory
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  • Bulldowzah - Dreamweaver
    Bulldowzah - Dreamweaver Posts: 96 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    My new hero b:cute
    rofl b:laugh
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    6x Seeker
    6x BM
    6xCleric
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  • pand0ra
    pand0ra Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    fobeks wrote: »
    The build is only viable if you have the money and/or a pro guild. The event cape and tome is needed for 5.0 in Fury, plus you need Ashura and Lionheart gear which is all in 3-2, 3-3 then the Claws themselves either from event packs or farming CV (lol). Not to mention the high refines needed to make up for the Vit points used in Dex, and on the Claws themselves.

    Sick build tho, props!

    My thoughs exactly..
    Damage - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Question b:surrender

    How the F... you hit 5 times a sec b:shocked

    Also what stats you got? :3

    It becomes easier (not necessarly cheap, but easier) to stack intervall between hits gear at 95+..
  • _Ghoul_ - Lost City
    _Ghoul_ - Lost City Posts: 973 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    i am working on a build like this 2 from a few month or so back.
    i heard that someone made a build like mine so i searched and i must say i
    am glad urs work so well.

    i dont knew if ur build is like mine or better
    mine is 5_Str 1_vit 4_dex eaxh 2 lv also want a claw barb 2 make it
    more animal like.

    love the fealing about a barb with claw more then hammers tho
    tho i still lv human and tiger form skills
    wish me luck guys b:victory
  • Shadowvzs - Lost City
    Shadowvzs - Lost City Posts: 877 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    _Ghoul_ - Lost City wrote: »
    i am working on a build like this 2 from a few month or so back.
    i heard that someone made a build like mine so i searched and i must say i
    am glad urs work so well.

    i dont knew if ur build is like mine or better
    mine is 5_Str 1_vit 4_dex eaxh 2 lv also want a claw barb 2 make it
    more animal like.

    love the fealing about a barb with claw more then hammers tho
    tho i still lv human and tiger form skills
    wish me luck guys b:victory

    GL, but still u will be the less invited between bm/archer/sin if need dd until u dont get alot interval gear :/

    like ideea is not bad (sadly u cant use the skills and u dont got fist mastery)
  • Revenge - Raging Tide
    Revenge - Raging Tide Posts: 834 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    epic build... makes me wanna roll my bm as fist.... lolb:laugh
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  • Ken_MasterS - Lost City
    Ken_MasterS - Lost City Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    the idea about fist barb is we get more ho then a bm so we really only need 2 refine the gear hi its Ghoul this is my sin i prefer my barb as i have more hpb:laugh
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