DPS Thread

FrostKiller - Sanctuary

Thought it would be kinda interesting to see a DPS Thread and yea....

Btw if anyone is interested i'll update this with a crazy Deicide refined, and demon sparked when i hit 95

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(highest base dmg + lowest base dmg)/2 = x
attack rate = y
critical hit rate = z

Dmg/s = xy((z/100)+1)

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^Thanks to hippie for this, or wherever he/she found it^

If you spark, say what kind of spark(normal/advanced/demon/sage), if not then put no spark

Just use the format, here's an example provided i did the math right

Spark: None
X : 3200
Y : 1.82
Z : 12%
DPS: 6522 aprox
Wep: Buddha Fists +5

Andross - Dreamweaver

FrostKiller - Sanctuary wrote: »

Thought it would be kinda i
(highest base dmg + lowest base dmg)/2 = x
attack rate = y
critical hit rate = z

Dmg/s = xy((z/100)+1)

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^Thanks to hippie for this, or wherever he/she found it^

All you need is a basic understanding of Algebra to figure this out b:surrender

FrostKiller - Sanctuary

This thread is about DPS not the math used to make the formula, unless you're posting your own DPS there's not much point in posting.

Filet - Heavens Tear

My DPS is 10451. Using Deicide +5 with base attack speed of 2.22
DPS at 99 with -interval armours just becomes insane...

Zerhee - Lost City

Spark: no
X : 5961
Y : 2.86
Z : 23%
DPS: 20967

Deicide +10

Spark: demon
DPS: 62498

/epeen

BraveHeart_ - Dreamweaver

^above

Oh my god... x)

MagicHamsta - Lost City

x = some really high number
y = 0.625
z = ~50% (looks like it be near 100% though.) b:chuckle

all that adds up to.....
POW

DPS = Over Nine Thousand~!~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*Broke teh scouter*

rinuruc

critrate formula is slightly wrong XD

z=critrate

(W*(z/100)+(100-z)/100)
thqts the right one,... W=critdmg percentage,... its at 2 standard, but asassins have something that might bring it to 2.3 (some buff),...

if u put w=2 than ye u get (2Z+100-Z)/100,... so than ye its correctly,... though the way ur stating it there is like somewhat counterintuitively,...

(the reason im putting it like this is coz i played other games (cabalonline) where standard crit% is like standard only 20% more dmg, but some classes can push that to like 150% and higher,... (some skills get another extra 100% critdmg too), and theyr critrates go up to 50%,... so there is a huge influence of critdmg% and critrate%,... and if u forget that factor of W than ur bigtime screwed XD )

here its oke for the other classes, but asassins get that extra factor in there,... ;-)
just to be somewhat more complete,... (the fact of multiplying with xy is correct ofc)

Hippie - Harshlands

rinuruc wrote: »

critrate formula is slightly wrong XD

z=critrate

(W*(z/100)+(100-z)/100)
thqts the right one,... W=critdmg percentage,... its at 2 standard, but asassins have something that might bring it to 2.3 (some buff),...

if u put w=2 than ye u get (2Z+100-Z)/100,... so than ye its correctly,... though the way ur stating it there is like somewhat counterintuitively,...

(the reason im putting it like this is coz i played other games (cabalonline) where standard crit% is like standard only 20% more dmg, but some classes can push that to like 150% and higher,... (some skills get another extra 100% critdmg too), and theyr critrates go up to 50%,... so there is a huge influence of critdmg% and critrate%,... and if u forget that factor of W than ur bigtime screwed XD )

here its oke for the other classes, but asassins get that extra factor in there,... ;-)
just to be somewhat more complete,... (the fact of multiplying with xy is correct ofc)

bms cant get this 200% moving, its their own skill for sins.

this formula isnt anything special, just common sense, actually game takes lvl difference, defences, A/D levels, penaltys in too.

also ur dps is nothing to be proud of. its just gear. u may still be a fail with it, or good without it.

Bartack - Heavens Tear

Here is my the base for my Max Speed Fist BM

Demon sparked at 5 attacks per second and a crit rate of 24% average over 100 seconds, DPS = 65468.9
Now just for giggles, equiped and stated a Barb with same equip

Demon sparked at 5 attacks per second and a crit rate of 28% average over 100 seconds, DPS = 67339.2 (this includes damage from demon poison fang)

BARBS FTW BEYOCHES! (as long as we dont buff you lol)

Edit: miscalculated crit damage, corrected

Hippie - Harshlands

Bartack - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Here is my the base for my Max Speed Fist BM

Demon sparked at 5 attacks per second and a crit rate of 24% average over 100 seconds, DPS =78140.3

Now just for giggles, equiped and stated a Barb with same equip

Demon sparked at 5 attacks per second and a crit rate of 28% average over 100 seconds, DPS =82069.65 (this includes damage from demon poison fang)

BARBS FTW BEYOCHES! (as long as we dont buff you lol)

poson fang gives u additional dmg after ur very base dmg, not after ur total.

therefor ur calculation is wrong.

anyway the basic idea of fist wb may work, but without marrows it would be squishyas hell against anything endgame.

Bartack - Heavens Tear

I did add poison fang damage to the base weapon damage before any further calculations. :P Look, it was just for fun, obviously with barb buffs BM's will out-damage us. And 5% of the crit comes from Demon Titans, so after 60 seconds when it wears off BM will have 1% more crit than us. As far as 'squishy' goes, with BB on the accuracy is over 8k and HP over 10k, with it off acc drops to 'only' over 3k and HP over 12k. If the build had citrine gems or savant stones the hp could be much higher. Oh, and here is a link to a thread showing a fist-barb solo TT2-3. So yeah, it works. b:bye

Hippie - Harshlands

Bartack - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I did add poison fang damage to the base weapon damage before any further calculations. :P Look, it was just for fun, obviously with barb buffs BM's will out-damage us. And 5% of the crit comes from Demon Titans, so after 60 seconds when it wears off BM will have 1% more crit than us. As far as 'squishy' goes, with BB on the accuracy is over 8k and HP over 10k, with it off acc drops to 'only' over 3k and HP over 12k. If the build had citrine gems or savant stones the hp could be much higher. Oh, and here is a link to a thread showing a fist-barb solo TT2-3. So yeah, it works. b:bye

something still must be wrong. there is no possible way of barb out dd bms, just take fist mastery into consideration. selfbuffed.

soloing SOLO MODE 2-3 is no biggie at all lol, i can do that with 7x 3 star fists

storehammy

*psst add in frostblade*
do et~~
b:chuckle

Bartack - Heavens Tear

Denial isn't a river in Egypt, hun. b:chuckle Sry I couldnt help myself. But as I stated before, its DPS only good for 60 seconds while crit boost lasts and only assuming self buffs. Demon Titans adds 40% weapon damage, demon poison fang adds 50%. The DPS is actually lower without the added crit factored, so that means a lot of the DPS is based on a chaotic factor, not a constant. Could be much higher, could be much lower depending on how it procs.

Hippie - Harshlands

Bartack - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Denial isn't a river in Egypt, hun. b:chuckle Sry I couldnt help myself. But as I stated before, its DPS only good for 60 seconds while crit boost lasts and only assuming self buffs. Demon Titans adds 40% weapon damage, demon poison fang adds 50%. The DPS is actually lower without the added crit factored, so that means a lot of the DPS is based on a chaotic factor, not a constant. Could be much higher, could be much lower depending on how it procs.

5% crit should be counted as 5% dmg.

titans give 40% true, but poison fangs dmg adds only to base dmg without str and mastery bonuses, so its like much less.

and demon fist mastery is 75% +1 crit, sage fist mastery is 90%.

Bartack - Heavens Tear

Well, you got me on one thing, was miscalculating crit damage into the mix. (Im a fail mathamagician) Anyway, here is the corrected calculation, step by step for your scrutiny:
BM average base damage per hit (Demon Sparked) = 10559.5 x 5 hits = 52797.5 + 24% crit rate damage factor = 65468.9 DPS

Barb average base damage per hit (Demon Sparked) = 9995 + 526.75 wood damage (Poison Fang) = 10521.75 x 5 hits = 52608.75 + 28% crit rate damage factor = 67339.2 DPS

Spark damage was calculated as average damage - average weapon damage + (average weapon damage x 5)

So there, you win, I will correct my original post and...wait, whats this?...The Barb still POWNZ!!! OHZ ME GAWD LOLZ!!! Ok, so I wont gloat (anymore :} ) Trust me, Im not trying to say barbs do it better than BM's, we are entirely different machines tuned for entirely purposes, and there are so many factors that effect damage it is well beyond my meager ability to comprehend it all. Just... a small victory b:victory

Filet - Heavens Tear

Bartack - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Well, you got me on one thing, was miscalculating crit damage into the mix. (Im a fail mathamagician) Anyway, here is the corrected calculation, step by step for your scrutiny:
BM average base damage per hit (Demon Sparked) = 10559.5 x 5 hits = 52797.5 + 24% crit rate damage factor = 65468.9 DPS

Barb average base damage per hit (Demon Sparked) = 9995 + 526.75 wood damage (Poison Fang) = 10521.75 x 5 hits = 52608.75 + 28% crit rate damage factor = 67339.2 DPS

Spark damage was calculated as average damage - average weapon damage + (average weapon damage x 5)

So there, you win, I will correct my original post and...wait, whats this?...The Barb still POWNZ!!! OHZ ME GAWD LOLZ!!! Ok, so I wont gloat (anymore :} ) Trust me, Im not trying to say barbs do it better than BM's, we are entirely different machines tuned for entirely purposes, and there are so many factors that effect damage it is well beyond my meager ability to comprehend it all. Just... a small victory b:victory

Eh not too sure about the accuracy of your formula. Anyway even assuming that it's correct, it's extremely hard to utilize fists in pvp without stuns, which bms definitely beat barbs in.

FrostKiller - Sanctuary

felt like re doing this when i hit 95

demon spark
x = 10862
7 = 2.86
z = 15%
no barb atk buff, deicide +8
dps 35,725