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  • _Zaku_ - Heavens Tear
    _Zaku_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Jennalicious - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Uh, technically you do. Remember the hammer needed for your lvl 50 and 80 supply stashes? Whether you buy gold to get it or someone else does, the purchase of gold is necessary.

    Uh, technically "YOU" dont. he never said that gold wasnt needed at all in the game. he just said that he himself hasnt spent any gold. (sorry for all the "hes'" if you are a girl)
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  • Karst - Dreamweaver
    Karst - Dreamweaver Posts: 178 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Krisnda - Lost City wrote: »
    no one said that you "have" to buy gold, i've gotten all the way to 73 without spending a cent in game b:victory
    Jennalicious - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Uh, technically you do. Remember the hammer needed for your lvl 50 and 80 supply stashes? Whether you buy gold to get it or someone else does, the purchase of gold is necessary.
    _Zaku_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Uh, technically "YOU" dont. he never said that gold wasnt needed at all in the game. he just said that he himself hasnt spent any gold. (sorry for all the "hes'" if you are a girl)

    Uh, what?

    And of course you don't need to spend anything as a veno. You will as a barb or cleric.
  • Alyyy - Sanctuary
    Alyyy - Sanctuary Posts: 3,165 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Karst - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Uh, what?

    And of course you don't need to spend anything as a veno. You will as a barb or cleric.

    archers and wizards spend mroe then us when grinding...
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  • The_Forgoten - Lost City
    The_Forgoten - Lost City Posts: 198 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Krisnda - Lost City wrote: »
    1. venos arn't OP

    O.o they fixed nix? Thats nice. Took em long enough. But you get banned for PK'ing in SP (I hear). =[ That was so fun in the day...
  • Karst - Dreamweaver
    Karst - Dreamweaver Posts: 178 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Alyyy - Sanctuary wrote: »
    archers and wizards spend mroe then us when grinding...

    Nowhere did I mention archers or wizards, did I?
    Besides, I barely spend anything while grinding on my wiz or archer, since the mobs won't even hit me.
    And I was talking later on i.e. instances where clerics mp charm is ticking constantly. That's why I said "will"..............................................
  • Lyritha - Heavens Tear
    Lyritha - Heavens Tear Posts: 447 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    The_Forgoten - Lost City wrote: »
    O.o they fixed nix? Thats nice. Took em long enough. But you get banned for PK'ing in SP (I hear). =[ That was so fun in the day...

    doubtful that it ever was "fixed" I think some people who were killed by a higher level person overreacted... just like those myths that if you turn polearm the AOE does less damage... yeah right.
  • Jennalicious - Sanctuary
    Jennalicious - Sanctuary Posts: 1,073 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Karst - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Uh, what?

    LOL, my thoughts exactly.
  • Krisnda - Lost City
    Krisnda - Lost City Posts: 1,465 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    _Zaku_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Uh, technically "YOU" dont. he never said that gold wasnt needed at all in the game. he just said that he himself hasnt spent any gold. (sorry for all the "hes'" if you are a girl)

    its fine XD i am a guy (how'd u guess XD) and i didnt know that u can get banned for pking in SP, i thought u could if you grief the lv 30's questing there.
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  • angellicdeity
    angellicdeity Posts: 641 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Lyritha - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    doubtful that it ever was "fixed" I think some people who were killed by a higher level person overreacted... just like those myths that if you turn polearm the AOE does less damage... yeah right.


    Nix'es are still broken thus veno's are still over-powered.




    This is the driving argument why:


    A Nix DOES NOT have their targets defense calculated into the damage they deal. If you wear no armor a NIX will still bleed you for the same amount of damage as with the best CV/HH and event gears in game.


    This has been tested on Lost City with end-game players of the same level (100)


    Let the war begin
  • Alyyy - Sanctuary
    Alyyy - Sanctuary Posts: 3,165 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    angellicdeity wrote: »
    A Nix DOES NOT have their targets defense calculated into the damage they deal. If you wear no armor a NIX will still bleed you for the same amount of damage as with the best CV/HH and event gears in game.

    from what i hear it doesnt do the corect dmg in PvE but does the same dmg in PvP

    this thread is gona get locke dif u flame on it <.<
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    nix bleed is broken...
    the damage log said the darn sawfly dealed 205 damage......and it does 900+ damage ticks for the duration of the skill.... b:surrender
    of course the veno herself was a 2 shot for me so....problem solved sort of....
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  • Gasoline - Lost City
    Gasoline - Lost City Posts: 304 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Its ALWAYS low lvls from pve servers that claims all classes are equal and compete in pvp on same term lol. Its funny since every high lvl on a open pvp server knows thats not true. Classes are not 100% balanced in pvp endgame, thats just how it is. A bm is very nerfed compared to a endgame wizards for example, doesn't matter if both have +8 gear. Same goes for hell barbs with all lvl 11 skills, they pretty much fk everyone up.

    Venos are OP tho around lvl 70-89 when everyone has low phy def/hp and gets soloed by nix bleed. But endgame veno is a pretty average class that actually takes skill to play, good timing with ranged stuns, amps and purge, kite like a b ish and bramble/feral concentration since we cant 1 shoot people like barbs and wizards b:cry

    But bleed actually wont even tick my charm anymore if im fully buffed its like 900k each tick and pecks like 200 <.< I would not call that OP.

    If 100% armor breaks lands tho and the its another story, pretty much everyone will die to bleed, unless they can purify, even lvl 100 with +8 gear b:chuckle.
  • TigerLily - Lost City
    TigerLily - Lost City Posts: 1,209 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    angellicdeity wrote: »
    Nix'es are still broken thus veno's are still over-powered.




    This is the driving argument why:


    A Nix DOES NOT have their targets defense calculated into the damage they deal. If you wear no armor a NIX will still bleed you for the same amount of damage as with the best CV/HH and event gears in game.


    This has been tested on Lost City with end-game players of the same level (100)


    Let the war begin

    But that is not correct. Even tho bleed does pve dmg it does not ignore physical defense. Its kinda obvious since bleed does less dmg on a Bm in heavy gear than on arcane wiz lol...

    Its highly noticeable if a hell veno lands 100% armor break - making my phy defense 0 - about the same as wearing no amour.

    Than i will be bleed for almost 4k each tick from lvl 100 nix if i'm amped + extreme posion. Otherwise bleed is like 1k each tick since my base phy def from gear saves my ****. And 1k ticks doesn't really hurt when you have 10k hp b:surrender
  • Alyyy - Sanctuary
    Alyyy - Sanctuary Posts: 3,165 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Gasoline - Lost City wrote: »
    But bleed actually wont even tick my charm anymore if im fully buffed its like 900k each tick and pecks like 200 <.< I would not call that OP.

    either u hav WAY too much hp... or that is the bigest typo ewaaar


    demon ironrock isnt worth getting imo its too much of a gamble...
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  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    News:

    This just in! The forums are now back to normal. There is QQnix threads instead of QQpack threads.

    Everything is back to normal :3
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »
    News:

    This just in! The forums are now back to normal. There is QQnix threads instead of QQpack threads.

    Everything is back to normal :3

    b:victory

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  • Roin - Harshlands
    Roin - Harshlands Posts: 155 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    But bleed actually wont even tick my charm anymore if im fully buffed its like 900k each tick and pecks like 200 <.< I would not call that OP.


    yes but if the veno purg/amps it can do around 2000 a tick but most veno are not that smart b:surrender
  • Gasoline - Lost City
    Gasoline - Lost City Posts: 304 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Alyyy - Sanctuary wrote: »
    either u hav WAY too much hp... or that is the bigest typo ewaaar


    demon ironrock isnt worth getting imo its too much of a gamble...

    Hell ironwood is a 20% chance to kill pretty much anyone i would not agree thats not worth getting ^^

    But im 95+ with average refines around 8.7k hp fully buffed and decent phy def, so obviously bleed does less dmg on me than on 7X clerics. If you where lvl 98 with decent refines, vitality in you build and good base phy def, bleed would not hurt that much either. Right now tho im pretty sure a nix 7X-8X nix can solo u.
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »
    News:

    This just in! The forums are now back to normal. There is QQnix threads instead of QQpack threads.

    Everything is back to normal :3

    YAY everything be back to normal again?
    b:victory
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  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    YAY everything be back to normal again?
    b:victory

    just waiting for gold prices to drop a little <-< THEN everything will be back to normal-(ish)

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  • Kiralsha - Heavens Tear
    Kiralsha - Heavens Tear Posts: 62 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    No..it isn't...Prices will go up even more. Unless you don't mind spending $1,000 to be E-cool and able to survive..then sure play away.
  • Gasoline - Lost City
    Gasoline - Lost City Posts: 304 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Roin - Harshlands wrote: »
    But bleed actually wont even tick my charm anymore if im fully buffed its like 900k each tick and pecks like 200 <.< I would not call that OP.


    yes but if the veno purg/amps it can do around 2000 a tick but most veno are not that smart b:surrender

    But you're a low 9X wizard, you cant compete 1v1 against a 9X veno. This game is unbalanced, its established since ages b:surrender. You will die every single time unless you have an entire pharmacy with immunity pots, 3 sparks, pro genie and amazing refines for your lvl.

    Just wait and get revenge once you hit 99, than you can 1 shoot both the veno and the nix with ice dragon and laugh at how fail they are b:chuckle.
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Gasoline - Lost City wrote: »
    But you're a low 9X wizard, you cant compete 1v1 against a 9X veno. This game is unbalanced, its established since ages b:surrender. You will die every single time unless you have an entire pharmacy with immunity pots, 3 sparks, pro genie and amazing refines for your lvl.

    Just wait and get revenge once you hit 99, than you can 1 shoot both the veno and the nix with ice dragon and laugh at how fail they are b:chuckle.

    well....me am on me way to getting an entire pharmacy of immunity pots.
    b:thanks
    going to get 3 sparks in about 8 levels.

    only problem be me gear/refine level.
    xD
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    1% chance to get ban hamstered with the message "Hamsters United!"
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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Krisnda - Lost City wrote: »
    1. venos arn't OP
    2. the tideborn (http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=466152) are coming out this wednsday
    3. yes this game is worth coming back to, idk why you would leave in the first place XD
    They arent OP, PWI just needs to have the nix fixed so it does the proper calculation dmg it was intended to do b:victory

    Altho tbh i would wonder how many 'its not OP!' venos would QQ if the nix were tweaked to its proper dmg.
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  • yetey
    yetey Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Dydrial - Sanctuary wrote: »
    This, all of it. No class is OP if you know how to play your own.

    i agree with that...
    its going to be hard for me as well coming back.... since i havnt used pets so i have no idea how they function...
  • Redmenace - Heavens Tear
    Redmenace - Heavens Tear Posts: 908 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    archer32 wrote: »
    Was just curious to know if this game is worth coming back to?

    What is new.

    Are VENO's STILL overpowered? What is new..I played since Nov. 2008 to about Jan. 2009, so what have I missed?!

    If you ragequit over "venos are overpowered" then NO.

    Stay where you are.

    Coming back is a waste of your time, it still sucks.

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  • Reylenn - Sanctuary
    Reylenn - Sanctuary Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I don't play a veno, I don't know exactly what they're like, but it is a running joke in my Faction that Venos are OP. That's not a bad thing, a challenge is just something to overcome.
    I'm looking forward to smashing those venos when I'm demon b:victory
  • Kurihime - Heavens Tear
    Kurihime - Heavens Tear Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    < installing PW to check out the new classes later today

    Played since closed beta up to jan 2009 as well, then went off to other games, but now I just HAVE to check this lol probably gonna quit after lvl 20 or something but oh well, will be nostalgic thats for sure
  • JanusZeal - Heavens Tear
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,852 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    archer32 wrote: »
    Was just curious to know if this game is worth coming back to?

    What is new.

    Are VENO's STILL overpowered? What is new..I played since Nov. 2008 to about Jan. 2009, so what have I missed?!
    Are you still a malcontent? If so, then you shouldn't, because you'll just find any reason to quit again a few months later.
  • Lyritha - Heavens Tear
    Lyritha - Heavens Tear Posts: 447 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Some people do not seem to get it : There is a skill called Myraid Rainbow that has potential to armor break you. Demon Venomancers can armor break you with ironwood. If you get that negative status effect on you anything will kill you... there it is that simple.

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