"I'm not a Cleric, I'm a Paladin!"

Alyyy - Sanctuary

Aadi - Lost City wrote: »

Who's to say that that's everyone's though? b:cute

b:cold

Ahira - Lost City wrote: »

TY! Got there eventually! b:chuckle

Last 4 months been slow going because I was back at university-so mostly i could only play and do daily on weekends! 6___6

lol...? i lvl slower then that cuz im lazy xD

(b:surrenderat least now lol)

FissureX - Lost City wrote: »

It's not a boulder

it's a rock!

i heard of ppl being random...but this took it to a whole other level lol ~_~

BeingHope - Harshlands

b:chuckle Fail, if you post that, do it with some dignity and post with your main character b:laugh

If you really think that, try being a cleric for months and say that again, I dare you b:cute

_DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary

Black_lce - Heavens Tear wrote: »

a cleric calling themselves something other than a cleric is the equivalent of a mental patient that swears he can fly. lets lead the fails to the roof now.

Seiowan - Harshlands wrote: »

Heavy armor?! I think my intelligence dropped a notch from merely reading that.

Whats the point in creating a cleric if half the time you can't even use any of their skills? Yeah... definetly a failed build. Words truly fail me. I don't think there's a single bearmoticon which truly expresses my utter horror at discovering this build.

b:shocked

Ok, now it's personal since you're taken to flaming me directly -.-

Both reported.

my definition of fun is not making a flawed char...

its making 1 that can use all of its skills to the max....

maybe its just me idk...

Perfectly reasonable. Everyone has their own way of enjoying something, if you want to create a character with the highest potential that's your decision. But if someone else likes to enjoy the game differently to you...is it really fair to judge them?

Joshcja - Sanctuary

i wouldent squad for tt with a "palidin" but it sounds like a rather fun buid far more reasonable than some arcane armor bm's i've seen

_DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary

Joshcja - Sanctuary wrote: »

i wouldent squad for tt with a "palidin" but it sounds like a rather fun buid far more reasonable than some arcane armor bm's i've seen

I don't see what's wrong with a "BM" in TT that can red and blue bubble, secondary tank as well as buff, purify, rez and even emergency heal. :P

For things like gamma and frost I'd agree though...rouge classes are fun but there are some things they just don't have any real place or use in.

Alyyy - Sanctuary

_DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary wrote: »

Perfectly reasonable. Everyone has their own way of enjoying something, if you want to create a character with the highest potential that's your decision. But if someone else likes to enjoy the game differently to you...is it really fair to judge them?

well depends...if they know all the other much easier builds then im suprised...

this is what hapened to me:
i played far less advanced MMO's then pwi and there were ONLY phy atacks...so i tought its same here and i should be heavy armour xD...then TNX SO MUCH to the ppl that did my fb19....i found the best build for me...

_DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary wrote: »

I don't see what's wrong with a "BM" in TT that can red and blue bubble, secondary tank as well as buff, purify, rez and even emergency heal. :P

5 magic is barely a good heal...and yea the maxed heals heal a fair amoutn but the diference between more magic and 5 is big...

XxLady_XelxX - Dreamweaver

_DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary wrote: »

I don't see what's wrong with a "BM" in TT that can red and blue bubble, secondary tank as well as buff, purify, rez and even emergency heal. :P

For things like gamma and frost I'd agree though...rouge classes are fun but there are some things they just don't have any real place or use in.

I do. Clerics don't get anywhere near the same multipliers that BMs do for the important physical/tanking stats, we're slower than molasses in January w/o ANY sort of self-contained means to move faster, BB and heals are completely reliant on MAtk to be effective (that 1/2 damage won't help you nearly as much without the supplemental heals to back it up, and even an un-sutra'd Wizzie would be a more effective 'last ditch heal')...

Hell...the only thing you could really truly contribute outside of thwacking things with normal attacks would be Revive (not nearly enough of a reason IMO, as contributions otherwise would be pretty much minimal), Purify (which isn't even an issue with a decent Cleric), or buffs (again...taken care of by the primary Cleric).

Hell, I'm all for exotic, fun builds and whatnot. If you want to do something beyond the norm just for fun, then by all means do what makes you happy. Just...don't expect anyone ELSE to take you seriously. b:shocked

Frijolero - Sanctuary

_DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary wrote: »

I don't see what's wrong with a "BM" in TT that can red and blue bubble, secondary tank as well as buff, purify, rez and even emergency heal. :P

I'ts fine if you wanna have a perfect copy of a D&D palladin: sux at healin and sux at combat b:laugh

Besides buffs, res and zeals, a PW paladin won't be any usefull.

He is already spending a lot of vital stat points on Str and Dex in order to wear current armor/heavy weapon, leavin just a few points to split between Mag and/or Vit.

If he spend its Stats on Mag for MP/stronger healing/mag weapon, he won't have enough HP to survive a close combat cause he'll be squishy as a full mag cleric.

Putting those points on Vit will nerf its healings/mag attacks so much than a cleric 20-30 lvl below him will do more damage/healing and won't have enough MP for an effective, prolonged BB, RB unless he's an extreme charm burner or a MP food bulimic, leavin' him only good as a buffer/resser/zealer

_DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary

XxLady_XelxX - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Hell, I'm all for exotic, fun builds and whatnot. If you want to do something beyond the norm just for fun, then by all means do what makes you happy. Just...don't expect anyone ELSE to take you seriously. b:shocked

Yeh, but that's the thing...I dont expect anyone to. b:chuckle You guys really need to learn the definition of fun. I don't care if it kinda sucks, I have a decent main already so I can squad and do TT's and RB's and TW's and whatever else I like already, I'm just having a bit of fun by making a class that does the exact opposite it's supposed to. :P

And anyway you're looking at those skills from a cleric point of view. BB > Myriad.... RB > Heavens Flame....some heal > no heal (maxed stream isn't too shabby)

Just to stress the fact again, I'm not trying to prove it's an awesome build that is just as good as any other standard. I'm merely having fun. Is that really that unreasonable?

Sometimes I steal agro off the BM, sometimes I tank phys bosses, sometimes I even help a squad with a swift bb or rez'ing the only cleric, sometimes ppl whisper me with "WTF? o.O" and "You're a cleric...right?".... it's silly things like that which take the dullness out a game of of pure grind, same old quests, and spamming dailies on my BM. Easier to understand now?

Seiowan - Harshlands

Ok, now it's personal since you're taken to flaming me directly -.-

Err... when did I mention your name? I just uttered my personal opinion on the concept of a heavy armor cleric. The fact that you might want to run one (or have) won't change my opinion, and I simply voiced it. That you took it as a personal insult makes me wonder if you truly read it for what it was.

Anyway its an interesting build, if not one which I'd advocate for teamplay. People still generally invite clerics for healing duties, which they need to perform fairly admirably to be considered useful. I'm glad you've found some use out of it, and enjoy the character, and after all thats what the game is about. I'd be interested to know how effective your magical skills are and what sort of duties you perform outside of solo play. After all, the game gets pretty dull if you solo everything.

_DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary

Seiowan - Harshlands wrote: »

Err... when did I mention your name? I just uttered my personal opinion on the concept of a heavy armor cleric. The fact that you might want to run one (or have) won't change my opinion, and I simply voiced it. That you took it as a personal insult makes me wonder if you truly read it for what it was.

Anyway its an interesting build, if not one which I'd advocate for teamplay. People still generally invite clerics for healing duties, which they need to perform fairly admirably to be considered useful. I'm glad you've found some use out of it, and enjoy the character, and after all thats what the game is about. I'd be interested to know how effective your magical skills are and what sort of duties you perform outside of solo play. After all, the game gets pretty dull if you solo everything.

Understandable you think it's an awful build. Heck it definitely isn't a good one, but no need to flame over it. If you went out and said "barbs are complete and utter fail, I'm horrified by their total fail and crapiness" then undoubtedly any barb reading would be insulted. See your post now you're giving an honest opinion which is fine and also being respectful of others opinions and play-styles. Which I can respect a lot more.

Solo healed a bm on fushma bh yesterday and did wyvern with another paliden and a BM tank today. :P Finding a cleric for bh is kinda hard, we did find one who took one look at our bm tank, laughed and quit squad. Usually in a squad there is a cleric, barb and 4 fillers so I always try to warn and explain in advance and take the filler category. But EVERY time the squad has a hard time finding a cleric they grab a random and rush off expecting me to heal. This usually results in my being flamed and insulted for not being a standard build, so I've taken to quitting squad if they try that and leaving them to it.

Ewings - Heavens Tear

On a serious note, thats a very good to play on ur char at your own time, but in squad time being a healer class ull still need another fully funct cleric in ur squad in dungeons. And you definately cant take a bms spot since HF, Roar and Aura has no replacement. Besides I know a whole lots of BMs whu hit so damn hard lvl 101 hercs cant keep aggro off em on TT bosses, so although its perfectly fine to enjoy the game the way u like it, it is also not too much for party members to ask u to fulfill certain roles well, as long as you can find such a role to fit in, thats fine.

Ahira - Lost City

_DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary wrote: »

Understandable you think it's an awful build. Heck it definitely isn't a good one, but no need to flame over it. If you went out and said "barbs are complete and utter fail, I'm horrified by their total fail and crapiness" then undoubtedly any barb reading would be insulted. See your post now you're giving an honest opinion which is fine and also being respectful of others opinions and play-styles. Which I can respect a lot more.

Solo healed a bm on fushma bh yesterday and did wyvern with another paliden and a BM tank today. :P Finding a cleric for bh is kinda hard, we did find one who took one look at our bm tank, laughed and quit squad. Usually in a squad there is a cleric, barb and 4 fillers so I always try to warn and explain in advance and take the filler category. But EVERY time the squad has a hard time finding a cleric they grab a random and rush off expecting me to heal. This usually results in my being flamed and insulted for not being a standard build, so I've taken to quitting squad if they try that and leaving them to it.

What level's your cleric and which weapon/s do you use?

_DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary

Ahira - Lost City wrote: »

What level's your cleric and which weapon/s do you use?

lv70, Calamity Axes and Wand of Colours. :P

I'm prob being a bit too serious with my arguments and discussion here, after all it is just purely a build for fun and when I'm bored. ^^ I'll leave you guys to think w/e and leave the discussion at that I think. b:chuckle

Have to admit a cleric with cala's is funny though xD Highest unaided crit 12k so far.

@Ewings, you definitely have a good point, which is why I usually try to just take a "filler" spot in squads if there is one, rather than take a spot that could be used by someone of more use to the team. Fun is all well and good, but I don't like causing squad wipes because of it. (though, RB > HF imo )

Qingzi - Harshlands

_DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary wrote: »

lv70, Calamity Axes and Wand of Colours. :P

I'm prob being a bit too serious with my arguments and discussion here, after all it is just purely a build for fun and when I'm bored. ^^ I'll leave you guys to think w/e and leave the discussion at that I think. b:chuckle

Have to admit a cleric with cala's is funny though xD Highest unaided crit 12k so far.

@Ewings, you definitely have a good point, which is why I usually try to just take a "filler" spot in squads if there is one, rather than take a spot that could be used by someone of more use to the team. Fun is all well and good, but I don't like causing squad wipes because of it. (though, RB > HF imo )

Wand of Colours is the shiet! It takes 6 str and 5 dex to use and still is a good magic weapon.

RB + HF =b:victory

I've never seen an axe-wielding cleric, but I've seen one using HA and a magic weapon. She was taken into Frost and no one knew she had just used a reset-scroll. The people who took her there said bad words in WC that day.

Edit: Accidentally necro'd, thought I was on another thread and forgot to check date

Impetus - Lost City

There's a cleric on LC who is also a paladin lol

I think his name is Skooomu (i've seen him blood red at west arch tele wielding xs lol)

EDIT: lol necro thread >.>

konariraiden

Way to go, Qingzi...now I have to go to FB 29 and kick yer butt.

b:scorn

b:chuckle