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Zolex - Lost City
Zolex - Lost City Posts: 42 Arc User
edited December 2009 in Suggestion Box
I wrote once about this problem and nothing happen...I just ask u guys to try to play this game till level 90 without using Boutique or try to buy gold with your coins that u grind ingame. Its not fun... Once the gold was 100k and all the PWI members could afford it,now its impossible to buy gold cause its 600k. Who the heck can afford that?!
Some ideas here :
1. Make an NPC where users can buy gold with 100k again.
2. Make some quests that reward ppl with gold.
3. Separate somehow the ppl who can and cant afford Boutique and give them the chance to earn ingame gold.

I understand that if u give some extra stuff for Boutique users like extra mounts, Flying stuff, Extra pets for venos, New fashions but The ARMOR and WEAPONS are part of the GAME. With this anniversary pack now there is a big difference between boutique users and simple loyal players...Now these other strange packs arrived... What will come next???
A lot of ppl got lunar stuff and extreme armor and weaps just bcause their daddys **** money.
Please think about it and let others enjoy the game too.
Thanx for reading
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Gold remains HIGH because other players continue to pay that amount.

    As long as people are willing to pay = Gold will remain at 600k.
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  • PartyAnimal - Harshlands
    PartyAnimal - Harshlands Posts: 693 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Gold remains HIGH because other players continue to pay that amount.

    As long as people are willing to pay = Gold will remain at 600k.
    What she said.
  • Elviron - Dreamweaver
    Elviron - Dreamweaver Posts: 812 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Similar to the lines from Matrix...

    "PWI can show mutliple doors but its the people who choose to open them"

    Theres no way PWE can actually stabilize gold prices since its controlled by players.

    Its actually good theyre having a lot of options in the boutique (pretty sure boutiques always get new/better stuff each time).

    The boutique is very much there for premium items and not necessary items. You could argue charms are necessary since they make life a little easier. However one can manage without them as well but would make gameplay a little harder and more challenging. Premium item users would always have an edge over the normal ones like us and is someting common in all F2P MMOs.

    If you want an equal playing field in terms to wars/pvp/endgame stuff, then the only option is P2P which has a monthly subscription without a cash shop which is rather hard to find these days.

    Surprisingly it brings to a totally unrelated thing. People tend to spend more on F2P types than P2P types and these are the people who complain about monthly subscriptions being too costly and then spend way more on a F2P version.
  • screwnickslol
    screwnickslol Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Gold remains HIGH because other players continue to pay that amount.

    As long as people are willing to pay = Gold will remain at 600k.

    nice generalization


    true, there's nothing warranting the gold being THAT high


    however, gold will never go below 200k. period. end of story. so no, your statement is not *entirely* correct. just wanted to point that out
  • Taranta - Dreamweaver
    Taranta - Dreamweaver Posts: 387 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Some ideas here :
    1. Make an NPC where users can buy gold with 100k again.
    2. Make some quests that reward ppl with gold.
    3. Separate somehow the ppl who can and cant afford Boutique and give them the chance to earn ingame gold.

    Gold/Zen = What keeps the servers running. Giving people access to it without having them pay will inevitably lead to the downfall of servers and later, the end of this game's existance. Why do people not seem to understand that things cost money? >.<
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  • Brocktree - Dreamweaver
    Brocktree - Dreamweaver Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    i kinf agree wit both sides here. a simple soloution would be to put things (except limmited ed stuff eg anni boxes and the black friday boxes ect) that just arent selling anymore into a shop in the game that can be bought with coin. now for the other side. f2p means just that. but like with anything elce in liife if you want to be uber you have to pay. (i beleave quagmire said it best when he said "what? fat chicks need love too..... but they gotta pay!"). now im a heavy cs user but ive never spent one red dime on this game. and if my daddy "farted money" he would sooner kill a newborn child with it and set it a blaze before he would ever eaven let me know he had it to begin with. pwi have this wonderful button right on the home page that says "ern zen". here your given options to compleat offers (a ton of witch require you to spend absolutly no money at all) for stuff that you normaly would have payed for anyway. wana rent movies from netflix? get some zen wile your doing it. wana buy thing online? they will give you zen for that too. i fill out credit card apps, get approved, get 4k worth of zen (or 40 gold and a hand full of silver) and when the credit card gets to my house i call up and cancle it shred it and repeat. get approved for a car loan and get 20 gold, when they callyou up to talk about it, pretend your intrested in it then say you wana shop around some more and never call them again. havent struggled your whole life to build good credit so you can have nice things when your older? fill out the nummerous survey tasks on there. granted its for a lot less zen but its better then a swift kick in the teeth yeah? so you see eaven an orphened five year old out on the streets with no money for food letalone prepaid gane cards can enjoy the cash shop. its why i quit playing flyff to play this.
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I just ask u guys to try to play this game till level 90 without using Boutique or try to buy gold with your coins that u grind ingame. Its not fun... Once the gold was 100k and all the PWI members could afford it,now its impossible to buy gold cause its 600k. Who the heck can afford that?!

    ......
    me am pretty much level 80 without using a single cent in the boutique.....
    It's fun as heck and frigging easy.
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  • Asperitas - Lost City
    Asperitas - Lost City Posts: 907 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Gold remains HIGH because other players continue to pay that amount.

    As long as people are willing to pay = Gold will remain at 600k.

    as long as the packs (or other potentially obscenely lucrative items) are in the boutique, players will continue buying the packs and gold will remain at 600k. both sides factor in here.

    anyway, don't know about other people, but im finding it hard to keep up without charging at all. skills, repairs, new gear, charms (actually, i havent been able to afford a single charm yet). could be that i suck **** at making money, but that's how it's feeling for me.
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  • daphkate
    daphkate Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    First off, "Read pls !"is very undescriptive and turns me off.

    Second, buy gold, sell it, bam bam, issue is over for you.
  • Zolex - Lost City
    Zolex - Lost City Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Boutique users would buy zen even if ingame the gold is 100 or 200 k.
    Dont tell me that u didnt bought zen when the gold was 130k...
    If there would be an npc which sells gold for X amount of coins I would have to go and grind for that amount of coins. And lazy ppl who are bored from grindin or whatever could buy zen normally. I dont know how u cant understand that its too hard to make ingame some coins to live with it...
    Its just a simple idea, dont get angry bcause of it. Better try to find some solutions on this problem. For example: " How could a simple player have lunar/frost weapon or equipment if these stuffs are sold on a price like 75.000.000 coins ??? "
    Now be serious...
  • Kiyogashi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyogashi - Heavens Tear Posts: 89 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    First and for-most.. This is a game for players. If it makes you angry, simply don't play?

    Another thing I would like to bring to your attention is you have to remember, although PWI is a "Free to Play Game", making and managing this game is the developers/Gms ACTUAL job. What happens, generally, when you have a job? You need payment to continue working there.

    If people stopped buying gold, how do you expect continuous work on PWI? Who will host the servers? It's not free you know. As high as gold prices are, the game is still just as easily playable. You don't /need/ to buy gold, of course it helps but it's not necessary.

    Please note - I didn't mean to offend anyone or anything, I just wanted to point out a few facts. ^^;
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  • Brocktree - Dreamweaver
    Brocktree - Dreamweaver Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    First and for-most.. This is a game for players. If it makes you angry, simply don't play?

    Another thing I would like to bring to your attention is you have to remember, although PWI is a "Free to Play Game", making and managing this game is the developers/Gms ACTUAL job. What happens, generally, when you have a job? You need payment to continue working there.

    If people stopped buying gold, how do you expect continuous work on PWI? Who will host the servers? It's not free you know. As high as gold prices are, the game is still just as easily playable. You don't /need/ to buy gold, of course it helps but it's not necessary.

    Please note - I didn't mean to offend anyone or anything, I just wanted to point out a few facts. ^^;

    i love your quote. may i steal it?b:avoid
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  • ILadyGodiva - Heavens Tear
    ILadyGodiva - Heavens Tear Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Why would gold priced ever go down....pwi is makeing lost of money cause ppl are more willing to just spend rl money. truefuly i dont see problem...i have suger daddy b:chuckle
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  • Kiyogashi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyogashi - Heavens Tear Posts: 89 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    i love your quote. may i steal it?b:avoid

    Lol, of course. :)

    Thanks for asking. :D

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  • Zolex - Lost City
    Zolex - Lost City Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Maaaaaaaan I understand that Gms and Developpers must be payed!!!!
    I say that u guys would buy gold anyway. The thing what is not fair that u sell it for horrible prices. So u have DOUBLE ADVANTAGE cause:
    1. U can buy anything from boutique
    2. (u dont buy to enjoy) U want and try to sell with stupid prices

    HOW THE hell its so hard for u guys to say that its not fair?
    (the answer is: U are selfish )
  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Maaaaaaaan I understand that Gms and Developpers must be payed!!!!
    I say that u guys would buy gold anyway. The thing what is not fair that u sell it for horrible prices. So u have DOUBLE ADVANTAGE cause:
    1. U can buy anything from boutique
    2. (u dont buy to enjoy) U want and try to sell with stupid prices

    HOW THE hell its so hard for u guys to say that its not fair?
    (the answer is: U are selfish )

    Why not ask the gms to put gold at a fix 1million coins exchange rate? That way, the people that are actualy paying for the game would make decent coin, and the freeloaders would still be able to get gold if they grinded a bit.

    How would that not be fair? <the answer: YOU are selfish and want something for virtualy nothing>

    This is the other side of your selfishness coin.... stop calling people selfish when you are asking for something for a selfish reason as well (as in, you do not want to spend RL money).
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  • anwynd
    anwynd Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    how bout make it fixed at 500k sounds reasonable price to me
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  • rapidbunny
    rapidbunny Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I could admit I often loose fun from jerks in BH's squad who know your class from some idiot guide and never played with it and try to teach you. And if there were "Increase Blacklist STONES" available only for gold I could be sad now... But seriously gold price never put me into bad mood. Like somebody already said, pleanty of PPL actually WANT to buy gold at such price. That's why other ppl sell it at those prices.

    I will not say how exactly, but if you would be good at trading you could earn a millions without moving from the town using such gold price. >.> Rich ppl throw out "****" cheaply even now, while other also rich pay millions for this "****" couse of increased gold price which they can sell even higher.

    I have real fun playing very nice game with alot of fun ppl from all over the world ALL COUSE of cashoppers, this is a reason I shouldn't and I will not badmouth them nor the system that makes them high lvl faster, better geared faster or better in pvp. And if you have fun playing here you shouldn't either complain, blackmouth nor trying to divide our society for cs and non-cs.
  • Brocktree - Dreamweaver
    Brocktree - Dreamweaver Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    heres another idea for you. join a faction that is highly active and has incentives. for example i regularly hold contests and lvling parties were prizes include, coin, gold and or cs items or molds ive found or bought. theres really no excuse for you not to be able to use cs what with the rewards program.
    free zen.
    thats how i use cs.
    thats how my guild uses cs.
    i really dont see what you problem is. if it will make you feel better how bout i come to your server and plop some plat charms and p.i.h and fashion items in your lap. i was willing to see your side of the arguement but now your just being a giant cry baby.
    target, wal*mart, speed way, 7-11, mijers, gamestop, babbages, barns&noble, walden-books, are ill places that i have seen pre-payed cards that have anywere from 5.00 to100.00 dollar values. or you could go to your local walmart and grab a green-dot prepayed visa card (have a strong feeling well see this guy on peopleofwalmart.com soon). it works just like a normal credit card but you put on the money you want to spend.
    so if you want to buy 40 bucks worth of zen then load like 5 bucks a week onto the card and when you hit 40 then go buy the zen.
    if your in a situation were you have no money then WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU PLAYING VIDEO GAMES ALL DAY FOR?!?!?!?!?!?!?! if you need zen you need money, if you need money you need a job. if you need a job your not going to find it in pwi.

    ::inhales deeply:: there..... think im done..... yeah. now quit crying. your solution is in there somewere.
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