Mages, not worth it

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nexus56
nexus56 Posts: 5 Arc User
edited March 2010 in Wizard
Lately i have been seeing no point in getting a high level wiz over a cleric or a veno. With the cleric they get an instant physical attack, heals and buffs whenever they want. venos get a worthwhile buff and thier own tank. wizards get a crud buff and...

There is nothing else i can think of that is better on a mage. Why play them

Can anyone think of an actual reason to play a wizard?

if you can i wont reroll =P
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  • Krisnda - Lost City
    Krisnda - Lost City Posts: 1,465 Arc User
    edited November 2009
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    mega awsome damage. they are the only class that can do alot of damage (becides archers, they do high crit damage. not the same) but if u want to reroll...i'd say a cleric, but if u dont want to heal, then a veno i guess (just another veno in the sea ^^ lol)
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  • nexus56
    nexus56 Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited November 2009
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    Well how do mages hit for harder than a cleric if they have the same gear...
  • Mavado - Harshlands
    Mavado - Harshlands Posts: 728 Arc User
    edited November 2009
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    nexus56 wrote: »
    Well how do mages hit for harder than a cleric if they have the same gear...

    Because are skills do more damage? b:bye
    >_< I'm a wizard in disguise... you know like the old cartoon... except with less robots and more fire/ice/rocks....
  • nexus56
    nexus56 Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited November 2009
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    Great cyclone lvl10:
    base magic attack plus 100% of weapon damage plus 1372.6.

    Gush lvl10:
    base magic damage plus 100% of weapon damage plus 1372.6.

    ...
  • Mavado - Harshlands
    Mavado - Harshlands Posts: 728 Arc User
    edited November 2009
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    Gush has more range =P

    and we are meant to dd... you aren't... are you going to level both your damage skills and your healing skills to the max as soon as you can? Or will you gimp heeling and go for damage just to be as good as a wiz?
    >_< I'm a wizard in disguise... you know like the old cartoon... except with less robots and more fire/ice/rocks....
  • _howler_ - Lost City
    _howler_ - Lost City Posts: 69 Arc User
    edited November 2009
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    nexus56 wrote: »
    Great cyclone lvl10:
    base magic attack plus 100% of weapon damage plus 1372.6.

    Gush lvl10:
    base magic damage plus 100% of weapon damage plus 1372.6.

    ...

    ur an idot >_>

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  • Mavado - Harshlands
    Mavado - Harshlands Posts: 728 Arc User
    edited November 2009
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    _howler_ - Lost City wrote: »
    ur an idot >_>

    I like this response more than mine XD
    >_< I'm a wizard in disguise... you know like the old cartoon... except with less robots and more fire/ice/rocks....
  • nexus56
    nexus56 Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited November 2009
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    1 i am a mage.
    and
    2 i checked that website and im right
  • Mavado - Harshlands
    Mavado - Harshlands Posts: 728 Arc User
    edited November 2009
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    nexus56 wrote: »
    1 i am a mage.
    and
    2 i checked that website and im right

    .... wizards were made for damage... clerics were not... true that they can be very good at dealing damage, but they don't have as many dd skills as wiz, and they don't have enough spirit to decently level up both their heals and their dd's.... so usually they have to make a choice between...

    And as a side-note, Gush and Cyclone hardly prove anything =P
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited November 2009
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    nexus56 wrote: »
    1 i am a mage.
    and
    2 i checked that website and im right

    if your not an idiot...then your blind.
    b:shocked

    heck me can do the same thing you do but teh other way around b:chuckle.

    Cleric:
    Razor Feathers:
    Inflicts physical
    damage equal to base magic attack plus 110% of weapon damage plus 527.5.

    Wizard:
    Black Ice Dragon Strike
    Water damage equal to base magic damage plus 275% of weapon
    damage plus 5522.4.

    b:shocked
    mah gawd it's Over Nine Thousand!!!!
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  • _howler_ - Lost City
    _howler_ - Lost City Posts: 69 Arc User
    edited November 2009
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    tell me one skill a cleric has that out damages Black ice dragon >_>. or one that out DDs Sandstorm or Glacial snare. plus wizards alot more attack spells. pls leav the Wiz forums NAO


    Edit: dammit hamsta bout beat me too it :P
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited November 2009
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    _howler_ - Lost City wrote: »
    Edit: dammit hamsta bout beat me too it :P

    b:chuckle
    Ninja hamster powers!
    xD
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  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited November 2009
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    If you are a wiz and you hate it, you suck.

    Simple really. If you don't know how to play a wiz, you die.
    Not like a veno, where you just sent in your pet and hold the heal button, or a barb, where you just hit away until it's dead, or a cleric where you just use a couple of IH's and you can tank any mob dmg.
    When you make a single mistake with a wiz, you die (unles your charmed or use genie heal)

    A mage is a real challenge, keeps you on the edge.
    Also, a high lvl wiz **** everything. It starts to get fun at lvl 60 (atleast than the real fun begins, laughing at barbs who get hit for 1k when you get hit for 200 in the swamp. If you know how to play the whole wizzy life is fun)

    So, to wrap it up. If you don't like being a wiz, what the F are you even doing here?
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  • TehMage - Lost City
    TehMage - Lost City Posts: 209 Arc User
    edited November 2009
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    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    If you are a wiz and you hate it, you suck.

    Simple really. If you don't know how to play a wiz, you die.
    Not like a veno, where you just sent in your pet and hold the heal button, or a barb, where you just hit away until it's dead, or a cleric where you just use a couple of IH's and you can tank any mob dmg.
    When you make a single mistake with a wiz, you die (unles your charmed or use genie heal)

    A mage is a real challenge, keeps you on the edge.
    Also, a high lvl wiz **** everything. It starts to get fun at lvl 60 (atleast than the real fun begins, laughing at barbs who get hit for 1k when you get hit for 200 in the swamp. If you know how to play the whole wizzy life is fun)

    So, to wrap it up. If you don't like being a wiz, what the F are you even doing here?

    +1

    Wizard isnt an easy class and not anyone who wants to play it can handle it
    Wizard takes skill to play, smarts, as well as a know how of both mobs and players around you.

    We deal most damage end game (aside from a barbs armageddon). Speaking of end game, people who play wizard are all about end game.

    We are the most expensive class, I believe Amour has a thread stating how expensive in coin and spirit we are, but I cba to post a link here.

    Also, clerics will NEVER and I repeat NEVER, out dmg us or out dps/dph us.
    Can't handle your wizard, reroll a carebear class, veno b:bye
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited November 2009
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    b:shocked
    being a wizard is easy as pie.
    b:chuckle
    although me years of experience and noob power probably makes it that easy for me.
    xD
    b:victory
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  • Kannone - Heavens Tear
    Kannone - Heavens Tear Posts: 907 Arc User
    edited November 2009
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    Guess it all depends on the point of view by which you want to enjoy the game. I play a mage because I like the roll I have in TWs:

    Kannon (on vent): assist kannon, I have cata barb _______
    BM 1(on vent): Got ya, 5 seconds to HF
    other mage (on vent): ready
    BM 1(on vent): 3 seconds
    --stun team does their thing--
    --Mages start channeling/spark--
    BM (on vent): go!

    then in chat it looks like this:
    So and so (barb) takes 24080 damage (critgasm)
    So and so 1 takes 11883 damage
    so and so 2 takes 9959 <~(BM w/ magic marrow)
    so and so 3 takes 19825 damage <~(critgasm #2)
    so and so 4 takes 130 damage <~(barb 2 w/ invoke -..-)
    so and so 5 takes 12440 damage


    But hey, no one said you have to play a mage. BMs are cool too; barbs are fun (if you're more into PvE), you'll be able to farm TT gears faster. Archers are pretty badass when you get high refined bows later on.
  • King_Solomon - Heavens Tear
    King_Solomon - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,341 Arc User
    edited November 2009
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    so you preach clerics are better eh?

    nice! you've just made a dozen archers smile.
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  • Aadi - Lost City
    Aadi - Lost City Posts: 4,449 Arc User
    edited November 2009
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    Why should it matter to the wizards whether or not you reroll? b:lipcurl

    Play what makes you happy.
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  • SurferGirl - Dreamweaver
    SurferGirl - Dreamweaver Posts: 415 Arc User
    edited November 2009
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    nexus56 wrote: »
    Great cyclone lvl10:
    base magic attack plus 100% of weapon damage plus 1372.6.

    Gush lvl10:
    base magic damage plus 100% of weapon damage plus 1372.6.

    ...

    u compred 1 of our lowest dmg skills . try to look at black ice dragon. sand strom ,glacical snare w/e its name. phonix embrece and so on and so on . facts are wiz hit more then cleric now its up 2 u what class to play
  • Konariraiden - Heavens Tear
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,505 Arc User
    edited November 2009
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    I play a Wizard for teh lulz.

    That, and the fact that I'm always a magic user in every MMO I play. I mean, yeah, there are plenty of nice classes, but...

    I don't want to heal or help anyone else, because nobody's more important than me. So Clerics are out.

    Venos are only females, and they should be in the kitchen instead of fighting monsters clearly stronger than them, and all they can do is send someone else to do their dirty work for them. See ya, Veno.

    Barbarians are just meatshields with absolutely no brain matter to speak of. Obvious no.

    Blademasters are just as mindless as the barbarians, except they think in terms of "KILL, KILL, KILL", instead of "DUH, OW, DUR".

    Archers...hell no, I ain't bein' no fruity Legolas wannabe.

    Thus, a Wizard is the best choice ever. EVAR.
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  • _Cristian_ - Lost City
    _Cristian_ - Lost City Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited November 2009
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    why does every1 think black ice dragon strike > blade tempest b:angry


    blade tempest > black ice dragon strike >=)
  • Konariraiden - Heavens Tear
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,505 Arc User
    edited November 2009
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    _Cristian_ - Lost City wrote: »
    why does every1 think black ice dragon strike > blade tempest b:angry


    blade tempest > black ice dragon strike >=)

    WRONG!

    Frostblade >>>> Everything else.
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  • Mahdust - Harshlands
    Mahdust - Harshlands Posts: 96 Arc User
    edited November 2009
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    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    WRONG!

    Frostblade >>>> Everything else.

    QFTTTTTTTttttt
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  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited November 2009
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    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    WRONG!

    Frostblade >>>> Everything else.
    crown of flames > frost blade!
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  • Joshcja - Sanctuary
    Joshcja - Sanctuary Posts: 3,502 Arc User
    edited November 2009
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    pitfall trumps allb:victory
    Gifs are hard to make work here
  • MiStAiSa - Sanctuary
    MiStAiSa - Sanctuary Posts: 278 Arc User
    edited November 2009
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    morning dew is hardcore DD
  • lasttemplar
    lasttemplar Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2009
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    nexus56 wrote: »
    Lately i have been seeing no point in getting a high level wiz over a cleric or a veno. With the cleric they get an instant physical attack, heals and buffs whenever they want. venos get a worthwhile buff and thier own tank. wizards get a crud buff and...

    There is nothing else i can think of that is better on a mage. Why play them

    Can anyone think of an actual reason to play a wizard?

    if you can i wont reroll =P

    If you cant see a point to make a high level wizard, then dont make one?

    Seriously, if anyone has to explain to you why you should make a wizard over a cleric or a venomancer, its already obvious wizard is not your role no matter what we say. Just make one of the other 2 alternatives and move on
  • Haiz - Lost City
    Haiz - Lost City Posts: 646 Arc User
    edited November 2009
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    I have, and learned heaven pitfall.

    I win endgame.
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
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    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I play a Wizard for teh lulz.

    That, and the fact that I'm always a magic user in every MMO I play. I mean, yeah, there are plenty of nice classes, but...

    I don't want to heal or help anyone else, because nobody's more important than me. So Clerics are out.

    b:chuckle
    we think similarly
    ish

    me always choose the ranged magical type of class. because you can be more tactical. although me am okie with healing too.
    xD
    it seems like me alternate me main between the two classes (Magical DD & support class) whenever me switch games.
    (O.o)'
    <---was a healer class in me last game.
    and a mage class in the game before. (horrible choice apparently since the developers decided to royally **** the magic class over.....dam golden theif bug.)
    and so on and so on till teh beginning of time. literally? X_X'
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  • Mosabi - Heavens Tear
    Mosabi - Heavens Tear Posts: 378 Arc User
    edited November 2009
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    I just like to see 100ks pop up in my screen and ppl go "oh **** a wiz b:shocked lets gank its only way to survive b:surrender"

    And the fact that when I walk around with the other 2 80+ wizards in west archo I feels special b:pleased

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    Is Back once more.

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